Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I love Beane and McDermott and the job they've done overall. I support them going forward. But I still feel the need to draw attention to a critical mistake they've made. McDermott seemed borderline embarrassed about it in his press conference last night, so hopefully it won't happen again, but the fact that it was a mistake of this magnitude does cause some concern. As I recall, the Bills were the only team in the NFL to carry only four CBs on their opening-day roster. I think everyone assumed this was just a temporary thing and they'd bring a veteran back after week 1, but it never happened. This meant the Bills were very thin at this position throughout the season and were very lucky to avoid significant injuries, until yesterday when they had to play two starters (Wallace and T. Johnson) deep into a meaningless game due to "a lack of bodies" as McDermott phrased it after the game. With Wallace in a walking boot, it probably means we are walking into the playoffs -- against a potent passing attack which we can only hope does not include Will Fuller -- with two boundary corners, a banged-up slot corner, and only safeties to back them up. The Texans will be looking at this as the Bills' weakness to attack. Stills could have a big game. McDermott said after the game that you hate to be in the position to have to play those guys like they did yesterday. Newsflash, McDermott/Beane: you didn't have to. You should have had a backup plan so you didn't have to risk the thinnest position on your roster going into the playoffs. Now you have put the team in a very difficult situation, and it was entirely avoidable. Start the season with another CB, or bring someone in just to play week 17. Either way, this never should have happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I love Beane and McDermott and the job they've done overall. I support them going forward. But I still feel the need to draw attention to a critical mistake they've made. McDermott seemed borderline embarrassed about it in his press conference last night, so hopefully it won't happen again, but the fact that it was a mistake of this magnitude does cause some concern. As I recall, the Bills were the only team in the NFL to carry only four CBs on their opening-day roster. I think everyone assumed this was just a temporary thing and they'd bring a veteran back after week 1, but it never happened. This meant the Bills were very thin at this position throughout the season and were very lucky to avoid significant injuries, until yesterday when they had to play two starters (Wallace and T. Johnson) deep into a meaningless game due to "a lack of bodies" as McDermott phrased it after the game. With Wallace in a walking boot, it probably means we are walking into the playoffs -- against a potent passing attack which we can only hope does not include Will Fuller -- with two boundary corners, a banged-up slot corner, and only safeties to back them up. The Texans will be looking at this as the Bills' weakness to attack. Stills could have a big game. McDermott said after the game that you hate to be in the position to have to play those guys like they did yesterday. Newsflash, McDermott/Beane: you didn't have to. You should have had a backup plan so you didn't have to risk the thinnest position on your roster going into the playoffs. Now you have put the team in a very difficult situation, and it was entirely avoidable. Start the season with another CB, or bring someone in just to play week 17. Either way, this never should have happened. Who should of played corner then yesterday? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I think the reason they felt comfortable going with 4 is that some of the safeties had versatility to play corner in a pinch. It's not easy to bring in a guy for one game, as you would have to make a roster spot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I love Beane and McDermott and the job they've done overall. I support them going forward. But I still feel the need to draw attention to a critical mistake they've made. McDermott seemed borderline embarrassed about it in his press conference last night, so hopefully it won't happen again, but the fact that it was a mistake of this magnitude does cause some concern. As I recall, the Bills were the only team in the NFL to carry only four CBs on their opening-day roster. I think everyone assumed this was just a temporary thing and they'd bring a veteran back after week 1, but it never happened. This meant the Bills were very thin at this position throughout the season and were very lucky to avoid significant injuries, until yesterday when they had to play two starters (Wallace and T. Johnson) deep into a meaningless game due to "a lack of bodies" as McDermott phrased it after the game. With Wallace in a walking boot, it probably means we are walking into the playoffs -- against a potent passing attack which we can only hope does not include Will Fuller -- with two boundary corners, a banged-up slot corner, and only safeties to back them up. The Texans will be looking at this as the Bills' weakness to attack. Stills could have a big game. McDermott said after the game that you hate to be in the position to have to play those guys like they did yesterday. Newsflash, McDermott/Beane: you didn't have to. You should have had a backup plan so you didn't have to risk the thinnest position on your roster going into the playoffs. Now you have put the team in a very difficult situation, and it was entirely avoidable. Start the season with another CB, or bring someone in just to play week 17. Either way, this never should have happened. I've got to tell you, this is a hot take if I've ever seen one. You are seriously questioning the least injury-riddled team in the league because of one freak accident of a game? Injuries happen. There was no misuse imo. I trust his and Beane's judgement when it comes to the defensive side of the ball. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Who should of played corner then yesterday? Mckenzie obviously. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 As long as they have White, Hyde, and Poyer I'm happy with the secondary. Most everyone else in this zone defense has been shown to be interchangeable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Who should of played corner then yesterday? The point is there should have been someone else on the roster to play corner. Most teams have backups at that position. The Bills kept six safeties instead -- four backups for two starting safeties, and only one backup for three starting corners. 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Mckenzie obviously. Yeah. It's hard to believe that people saw McKenzie out there yesterday and still feel we're in a just fine position depth-wise. I mean, there's all the evidence you need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 EJ Gaines is a free agent. I wonder if they look at him? He's good for at least 30 snaps before he gets hurt. Can we sign him though? I know he was released on injury settlement. Not sure how that works. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Siran Neal is a corner in Buffalo's defense, hence why they carry 5 other safeties. They can't field a 75-man roster in week 17. Some guys are going to have to play. In fact, if you could pick a position for the Bills to lose a starter, Wallace has to be the first choice by a mile. Kevin Johnson has been solid and has been getting 40% of the boundary corner snaps since week 10. Edited December 30, 2019 by thebandit27 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I've got to tell you, this is a hot take if I've ever seen one. You are seriously questioning the least injury-riddled team in the league because of one freak accident of a game? Injuries happen. There was no misuse imo. I trust his and Beane's judgement when it comes to the defensive side of the ball. No, it's not about the freak accident. He shouldn't have been playing in the first place; the rest of the starters were gone by then. If someone gets hurt on Saturday, are you comfortable with Siran Neal or Isaiah McKenzie covering Kenny Stills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Honestly, I prefer Kevin Johnson opposite Tredavious. Kevin seems to be more physical. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: No, it's not about the freak accident. He shouldn't have been playing in the first place; the rest of the starters were gone by then. If someone gets hurt on Saturday, are you comfortable with Siran Neal or Isaiah McKenzie covering Kenny Stills? I'm sure they will have a back-up plan and would be fine. You do realize that White didn't play correct? That is a factor you are forgetting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm sure they will have a back-up plan and would be fine. You do realize that White didn't play correct? That is a factor you are forgetting Right. But if Wallace can't go, we're going to trot out White, Johnson, and Johnson as the starters with no backups other than safeties. Any way you slice it, that is paper thin and an area of concern. If one of White or K. Johnson goes down, who goes to the boundary? If T. Johnson goes down, do we think Neal can keep up with the Texans' playmakers in the slot? It's a huge mismatch and could make a difference in the game, even if a guy only misses a series or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Siran Neal is a corner in Buffalo's defense, hence why they carry 5 other safeties. They can't field a 75-man roster in week 17. Some guys are going to have to play. In fact, if you could pick a position for the Bills to lose a starter, Wallace has to be the first choice by a mile. Kevin Johnson has been solid and has been getting 40% of the boundary corner snaps since week 10. I was about to post this. And as so often when I am late to a thread you have already taken care of it @thebandit27. They will likely have to go sign someone off the street now and as someone else mentioned EJ Gaines is out there. He would make sense. As would Cam Lewis up from the practice squad if they are short at nickel. I was hopeful Taron's injury was not that serious though? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 You’re right, incompetence of the highest level. Fire him and bring in Freddie, he’s got time on his hands. ? I’ve worked for micromanagers like you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 They are big on position flexibility. Some of the safeties can be used as corners in various situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Didn’t Taron Johnson return to the game? I was pretty sure he is fine. Losing Levi hurts our depth, but Tre/Taron/Kevin is still a very good group of corners. I agree with others that I’d have a plane waiting to bring in EJ Gaines, as he knows our system/coaches and we just need him healthy for a playoff run. Edited December 30, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, the skycap said: Honestly, I prefer Kevin Johnson opposite Tredavious. Kevin seems to be more physical. I think he's solid but a huge injury risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, the skycap said: Honestly, I prefer Kevin Johnson opposite Tredavious. Kevin seems to be more physical. me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I was more worried about losing Nseke only to then see Ford come back in late. Then he got hurt. Ugh. Luckily it looked like he was fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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