ExiledInIllinois Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 This is what happens when gov't is run like a business. Corruption. In business it isn't necessarily illegal to get dirt on your competition. It is in gov't against your political rivals the way Trump was attempting. There simply are two different people in our country. The ones that want to turn the clock back to rampant corruption, abuse of power and boot licking a central authority figure, ie: "CEO." AND then there are the ones who think it's not okay to run the country like a crooked business. We really are at an ethical crossroads in this country. Almost split right down the middle with the populace. Then sub divided by city and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This is what happens when gov't is run like a business. Corruption. In business it isn't necessarily illegal to get dirt on your competition. It is in gov't against your political rivals the way Trump was attempting. There simply are two different people in our country. The ones that want to turn the clock back to rampant corruption, abuse of power and boot licking a central authority figure, ie: "CEO." AND then there are the ones who think it's not okay to run the country like a crooked business. We really are at an ethical crossroads in this country. Almost split right down the middle with the populace. Then sub divided by city and country. Yeah, until Trump, corruption never existed. And again why is it okay to make up dirt on Trump in an effort to try and remove him from office but not okay to investigate a guy running for President who had some shady dealing while he was VP? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This is what happens when gov't is run like a business. Corruption. In business it isn't necessarily illegal to get dirt on your competition. It is in gov't against your political rivals the way Trump was attempting. There simply are two different people in our country. The ones that want to turn the clock back to rampant corruption, abuse of power and boot licking a central authority figure, ie: "CEO." AND then there are the ones who think it's not okay to run the country like a crooked business. We really are at an ethical crossroads in this country. Almost split right down the middle with the populace. Then sub divided by city and country. It’s like you had a thought baking in the old incubator, started typing it out and realized #$&@ like that happens every day in “gov’t”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It’s like you had a thought baking in the old incubator, started typing it out and realized #$&@ like that happens every day in “gov’t”. I am not that jaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This is what happens when gov't is run like a business. Corruption. In business it isn't necessarily illegal to get dirt on your competition. It is in gov't against your political rivals the way Trump was attempting. There simply are two different people in our country. The ones that want to turn the clock back to rampant corruption, abuse of power and boot licking a central authority figure, ie: "CEO." AND then there are the ones who think it's not okay to run the country like a crooked business. We really are at an ethical crossroads in this country. Almost split right down the middle with the populace. Then sub divided by city and country. The Obama days are gone. You need to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 2:07 PM, DC Tom said: They really just ought to call it "collusion," since nobody knows what that is anyway. Collusion was outlawed by General William Sherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rob's House said: The Obama days are gone. You need to move on. Boy... You guys sure come out of the woodwork to defend each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 This guy's living Adam Schitt's dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This is what happens when gov't is run like a business. Corruption. In business it isn't necessarily illegal to get dirt on your competition. STEELE DOSSIER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Boy... You guys sure come out of the woodwork to defend each other. To defend each other? Whaaaaaa You are pretty wrong about this. I thought you were gonna do some reading to find out what was going on? Here's the Ukraine thread, it is short and packed with information. Hint: it is all about the graft (grrrrr every time I write that I start singing All About that Bass), and how Trump's election put a stop to it. Edited November 15, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't know I've had it on good authority from certain people on here that Ukrainians can't be trusted.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: I don't know I've had it on good authority from certain people on here that Ukrainians can't be trusted.? No one ever posted anything like that that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: To defend each other? Whaaaaaa You are pretty wrong about this. I thought you were gonna do some reading to find out what was going on? Here's the Ukraine thread, it is short and packed with information. Hint: it is all about the graft (grrrrr every time I write that I start singing All About that Bass), and how Trump's election put a stop to it. Yes Trump put and end to graft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: Yes Trump put and end to graft.... You may want to take a read through that thread too. ? Learn something new. It will enhance your life! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No one ever posted anything like that that I know of. Right of course no one on here has posted about an elaborate conspiracy with Ukraine trying to manipulate our elections/government that'd be crazy. 53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Here's the Ukraine thread, ? 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You may want to take a read through that thread too. ? Learn something new. It will enhance your life! ? I don't know the last time I talked with someone about the Ukraine conspiracy I got given an article from a site that had also posted an article on 9/11 being an inside job and weirdly enough seemed to have a pretty heavy bias on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: To defend each other? Whaaaaaa You are pretty wrong about this. I thought you were gonna do some reading to find out what was going on? Here's the Ukraine thread, it is short and packed with information. Hint: it is all about the graft (grrrrr every time I write that I start singing All About that Bass), and how Trump's election put a stop to it. I am not whining... Just funny. I guess that justifies you jumping in. You have a Hollywood script writer for your primary source. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 New Whine in an Old Battle. Let me put it in nice simple terms: The President sets and conducts foreign policy, not State, not the NSC, not the DOD, not any other alphabet agency. He does not have to go through State or NSC to conduct said policy; he does not have to consult with Kent or Taylor or anybody else on Ukraine or any other aspect of foreign policy. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Right of course no one on here has posted about an elaborate conspiracy with Ukraine trying to manipulate our elections/government that'd be crazy. Just because there are crooked officials and agents in Ukraine (as there are everywhere) does not mean we can’t trust any Ukrainian. Surely you understand that distinction? Or are you just going to devolve into a pure troll? 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: I don't know I've had it on good authority from certain people on here that Ukrainians can't be trusted.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 ***************************** Trump post rally: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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