Bottom line is the Defense has to prevent an 80 yard TD drive and we win

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

2014, just before the Pegulas ruined it chasing a sound bite. That team had a better defense and offense than the current one and didn't make the playoffs. Can't wait to switch back to the 3-4 and watch the roster turnover. 

That Schwartz defense was a paper tiger too. Whenever the game was on the line they usually folded

 

And they were NOT GOOD against the run either, getting gashed in big games

 

They had great sack numbers and a good pass D numbers. I still have nightmares of the 2-12 raiders dropping 26 on us and latavius Murray and McFadden going for a combined about 150 in a critical week 16 matchup

 

And that wasn't the first time

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

How many people on this board do not know how to spell the OC's name correctly?

 

D-A-B-O-L-L 

 

 

The defense was good enough to win today.  When you hold your opponent to 19 points and the offense can't score more, it's not a defensive issue.  

 

NFL defenses are not going to be the '85 Bears, '00 Ravens, or '02 Buccaneers and consistently hold teams to 10 points per.  Not happening. 

 

The defense was not good enough to win or we would have won.

 

The fact is that we had taken the lead and the defense crapped the bed and allowed an 80 plus yard drive and the go ahead TD and left a struggling offense with a minute and change to march down the field and try to take the lead again. Some of that is on Frazier - who has a penchant for easing up on the gas in situations and playing not to lose when he needs to be aggressive against a  struggling QB. There are no heroes from this game just looking at the box score.

 

And it shouldn't take the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens to beat the struggling 2019 2-6 Browns led by a 2nd year QB who is tied for the league lead in interceptions... not the best analogy.

 

Did the offense do enough - no.

Did the defense do enough - no.

Did special teams do enough - no.

Coaches... obviously no.

 

Team loss, and there are a lot of things to fix - going to be a long week at OBD.

 

 

[TJC25]

The more i look at it josh missed Beasley bad on that last play has a chance to pick up 25 yards maybe even score go watch 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, TheJauronClap said:

Dabol did not call a bad game josh missed throws to receivers that were open

Singletary getting 8 carries today against one of the worst run defenses in the league is not bad game planning?

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

The more disturbing notion is...is Josh Allen really our franchise qb?  He sure does miss a lot of throws, and hits on 0 long passes, is terribly inaccurate 

Terribly inaccurate QBs don't throw 20 yards square ins on the money consistently

 

Josh makes amazingly hard throws look effortless a good amount of time , inaccurate QBs don't do that

 

He is inconsistent..  but so is pretty much everybody on offense outside John Brown. Daboll is super inconsistent with playcalling

 

Inaccurate QBs don't have a WR like John Brown on Pace for 1200 yards. He throws a great ball between 10-20 yards

[Gunsgoodtime]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Terribly inaccurate QBs don't throw 20 yards square ins on the money consistently

 

Josh makes amazingly hard throws look effortless a good amount of time , inaccurate QBs don't do that

 

He is inconsistent..  but so is pretty much everybody on offense outside John Brown. Daboll is super inconsistent with playcalling

 

Inaccurate QBs don't have a WR like John Brown on Pace for 1200 yards. He throws a great ball between 10-20 yards

But throws 0 bslls accurate beyond that.  Guy has missed numerous wide open long balls this year, not hitting 1 of them, not 1.  He is awful on the deep ball, no argument to be had

[TJC25]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

Singletary getting 8 carries today against one of the worst run defenses in the league is not bad game planning?

But receviers were wide open all day josh missed throws my guy 

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Terribly inaccurate QBs don't throw 20 yards square ins on the money consistently

 

Josh makes amazingly hard throws look effortless a good amount of time , inaccurate QBs don't do that

 

He is inconsistent..  but so is pretty much everybody on offense outside John Brown. Daboll is super inconsistent with playcalling

 

Inaccurate QBs don't have a WR like John Brown on Pace for 1200 yards. He throws a great ball between 10-20 yards

We score less the 20 a game explain? 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, peterpan said:

I just don't think we are getting good enough production from guys like Edmonds and Oliver.  Edmonds had a bad first half and a rough year.  Oliver is basically last on the depth chart behind guys off the practice squad and street free agents cut from .500 teams. 

 

Our run D goes to sheet when we lose our third round pick from last year, and our top ten pick from this year is nowhere to be seen. 

 

We should trade back and get dozens of 3-5 rounders apparently

Ed Oliver has fallen behind veteran players. Are you saying that Jordan Phillips has not earned to be the starter?

 

As for Tremaine Edmunds, I don't know what you are talking about, he played very good today, and not just by getting the safety.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

But throws 0 bslls accurate beyond that.  Guy has missed numerous wide open long balls this year, not hitting 1 of them, not 1.  He is awful on the deep ball, no argument to be had

He is 23 and can improve. And it's really hard for all QBs to hit guys 45 -50 yards downfield consistently. It's like a 30% throw for world class QBs

 

The NFL counts a deep ball as over 15-20 yards. Not 50

 

And he is really good at 15-20 .. he has a whole off-season to progress

Edited November 11, 2019 by Buffalo716

[Buffalo Barbarian]

True but it cant always be on the defense, this offense needs to step up. I dont know what the offense needs but today they looked out of sync all day and struggled to put together a nice flowing drive.

 

They all need to look in mirror and ask themselves what they need to do to improve then do it. I think we have enough talent to be competitive but for some reason they cant all get on the same page at the same time.

 

 

[Mark Vader]

5 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

But receviers were wide open all day josh missed throws my guy 

We score less the 20 a game explain? 

And there were receivers that were open that Josh connected on and they dropped them.

1 hour ago, Troll Toll said:

They’ve invested so little in the offense in 3 years, in fact they have possibly given away more talent on offense than they have gained. The defense has had heavy investment in all 3 drafts and in FA. They should be held to a higher standard than the offense until that levels out.

So you are saying that you want last season's offensive line back?

[TJC25]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

And there were receivers that were open that Josh connected on and they dropped them.

I give you two my friend one to knox and roberts and thats it what you got now 

[BillsVet]

7 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

The defense was not good enough to win or we would have won.

 

The fact is that we had taken the lead and the defense crapped the bed and allowed an 80 plus yard drive and the go ahead TD and left a struggling offense with a minute and change to march down the field and try to take the lead again. Some of that is on Frazier - who has a penchant for easing up on the gas in situations and playing not to lose when he needs to be aggressive against a  struggling QB. There are no heroes from this game just looking at the box score.

 

And it shouldn't take the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens to beat the struggling 2019 2-6 Browns led by a 2nd year QB who is tied for the league lead in interceptions... not the best analogy.

 

Did the offense do enough - no.

Did the defense do enough - no.

Did special teams do enough - no.

Coaches... obviously no.

 

Team loss, and there are a lot of things to fix - going to be a long week at OBD.

 

There is no one side of the ball at fault, but we're debating how much to blame one side of the ball or the other.  That can be tricky because nuance doesn't work on message boards. 

 

Still, the offense should be expected to do more against that defense.  And Buffalo's defense, despite some issues stopping the run, shouldn't be expected to keep that offense to less than 16 points.  There's too much talent over there, despite the record.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

But receviers were wide open all day josh missed throws my guy 

We score less the 20 a game explain? 

Everybody on offense is inconsistent and it starts at coaching

 

You also are critiquing him like he's a 8 year polished vet. He should've been sitting for a year or 2 and learning

 

We threw a super green QB into the fire. Inconsistency is what happens.. he needed 2 years on the bench and he is getting it on the field

 

He has to learn to play through mistakes now in the field. He couldn't clean up his mechanics for 3 seasons like Rodgers.. he has been tossed into the fire

 

He needs more than 19 games

[Mark Vader]

2 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

I give you two my friend one to knox and roberts and thats it what you got now 

Again......Devin Singletary: 8 carries....Unacceptable.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, auburnbillsbacker said:

They gave up 19 points on the road.  They did fine.

 

We lost.  It’s a team game.

[TJC25]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Everybody on offense is inconsistent and it starts at coaching

 

You also are critiquing him like he's a 8 year polished vet. He should've been sitting for a year or 2 and learning

 

We threw a super green QB into the fire. Inconsistency is what happens.. he needed 2 years on the bench and he is getting it on the field

 

He has to learn to play through mistakes now in the field. He couldn't clean up his mechanics for 3 seasons like Rodgers.. he has been tossed into the fire

 

He needs more than 19 games

Daboll called plays that got players open. Im critiquing him as a QB young or old same position. Why do you say he need 2yrs on a bench cause someone on tv or radio says he needs it? 

3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Again......Devin Singletary: 8 carries....Unacceptable.

Again open receivers in a passing league not getting the ball unacceptable 

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

Invested so little in the offense?! They've invested a top 10 pick at qb, a whole new line, new wrs, new te's, new rbs. Are you joking?

 

16.66 points allowed per game

19.33 points scored per game

We've given up 20 or more points only twice this year. TWICE.

We've held 2 teams to single digits.

Yet our offense, in 9 games has had games of 10, 13, 14, 17 points scored this year. And only 16 today.

 Higher standard? Again, are you joking?

 

 

The offense got 14 pts. 2 was on a safety.

 

the offense hasn’t done enough. I don’t blame Allen, I blame the play calling. I blame McD conservatism

 

today if thry kick the FG at the end of the first half this game would have bern a tie.

[Bob in STL]

1 hour ago, TheJauronClap said:

Dabol did not call a bad game josh missed throws to receivers that were open

 

He called 20 runs and 41 passes on the road, with the lead for part of the game.   With a QB that struggles that is bad.

 

Loved that bomb on 3rd and 3. 

 

Allen at least has youth as an excuse.  Daboll has never once had a productive offense on any NFL team, ever.  

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

The Browns GWD is 100% on McDermott.

 

He called two timeouts on that drive to reset the defense to what their offense was showing.

 

After the 1st TO, the browns were in the same formation and made a big 1st down.

 

After the 2nd TO, Browns scored a TD.

 

McD got outcoached in the end, by a far (supposedly) inferior coach in Kitchens.

 

Its a bit concerning.

 

Those timeouts couldve been used on offense ?

 

 

Very true.

 

What's worse is that they should have used their final timeout when Singletary did not get out of bounds.

 

They could have saved more time to draw up a play to get the first down and probably get in closer field goal range or possibly get a touchdown. There was enough time to do that.

 

Instead, they let the clock run, letting precious seconds slip away. Putting Hauschka in a difficult situation.

4 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

Daboll called plays that got players open. Im critiquing him as a QB young or old same position. Why do you say he need 2yrs on a bench cause someone on tv or radio says he needs it? 

Again open receivers in a passing league not getting the ball unacceptable 

So you agree that Singletary only getting 8 carries was the right thing to do?

[TJC25]

1 minute ago, djp14150 said:

 

 

The offense got 14 pts. 2 was on a safety.

 

the offense hasn’t done enough. I don’t blame Allen, I blame the play calling. I blame McD conservatism

 

today if thry kick the FG at the end of the first half this game would have bern a tie.

So you blame the play calling for josh not hitting a deep ball all year missing open guys fumbling throwing horrid picks thats playcalling. guys every qb we had we blame playcalling maybe just maybe hear me out i know this is crazy maybe our qb isnt making the right reads or missing targets i know crazy right 

[BananaB]

3 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

 

 

The offense got 14 pts. 2 was on a safety.

 

the offense hasn’t done enough. I don’t blame Allen, I blame the play calling. I blame McD conservatism

 

today if thry kick the FG at the end of the first half this game would have bern a tie.

They also gave Hauska two opportunities to put points on the board. Different outcome if he makes those kicks

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

Daboll called plays that got players open. Im critiquing him as a QB young or old same position. Why do you say he need 2yrs on a bench cause someone on tv or radio says he needs it? 

Again open receivers in a passing league not getting the ball unacceptable 

No because my personal opinion as a scout thought he needed to clean up mechanics and other nuances that he didn't get to learn at Wyoming

 

Sitting QBs and letting them learn is never bad, that's why the state of NFL QBs are bad... Nobody develops them properly anymore

 

Brady, Brees, Rodgers , Rivers , Mahomes all got time to sit. It can only help a QB

 

Joe Montana sat for a season with 1 game as a room. We threw green Josh Allen into the fire and he has survived the furnace. He did not get chewed up and spit out by the league

 

Josh played at Wyoming for only 2 seasons and needed to adapt to the speed and intricacies of the game, something that was way different at Wyoming

 

And if you think it's unacceptable that "open" receivers don't get the ball watch more games. QBs miss guys terribly week in and week out and don't throw to open guys all the time

Edited November 11, 2019 by Buffalo716

[TJC25]

3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Very true.

 

What's worse is that they should have used their final timeout when Singletary did not get out of bounds.

 

They could have saved more time to draw up a play to get the first down and probably get in closer field goal range or possibly get a touchdown. There was enough time to do that.

 

Instead, they let the clock run, letting precious seconds slip away. Putting Hauschka in a difficult situation.

So you agree that Singletary only getting 8 carries was the right thing to do?

If receviers werent getting open and they were struggling i would agree run the ball more but they were getting open and josh was missing them

Edited November 11, 2019 by TJC25

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

There is no one side of the ball at fault, but we're debating how much to blame one side of the ball or the other.  That can be tricky because nuance doesn't work on message boards. 

 

Still, the offense should be expected to do more against that defense.  And Buffalo's defense, despite some issues stopping the run, shouldn't be expected to keep that offense to less than 16 points.  There's too much talent over there, despite the record.

 

See, this is where I am, and maybe you can show me where I’m off track.

 

The way I see it, in the 4th Q, it really doesn’t matter what the absolute score is.  The absolute score could be 34-30 or 16-12.   It’s the difference that matters.

The point is: there is a lead, and with the game coming to an end, if we keep the lead, we win.  If we lose the lead, we lose, unless we score again.

 

Now, could the offense have put the issue beyond doubt by scoring more earlier?  Obviously if the score is 22-12 or 40-30 no single score matters.  So yes, the offense could and should score more.  But that ship has sailed.  It’s drawing to the end of the 4Q and it’s a 1 score game.

 

Elite D’s get the stop in those circs.

 

Non elite D’s, however tough they played earlier, do not.

 

Good O’s score more points, sure, no argument.  But if the D allows more scores, it’s still the same point difference in the end and the D didn’t get the stop.

[TJC25]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

No because my personal opinion as a scout thought he needed to clean up mechanics and other nuances that he didn't get to learn at Wyoming

 

Sitting QBs and letting them learn is never bad, that's why the state of NFL QBs are bad... Nobody develops them properly anymore

 

Brady, Brees, Rodgers , Rivers , Mahomes all got time to sit. It can only help a QB

 

Josh played at Wyoming for only 2 seasons and needed to adapt to the speed and intricacies of the game, something that was way different at Wyoming

 

And if you think it's unacceptable that "open" receivers don't get the ball watch more games. QBs miss guys terribly week in and week out and don't throw to open guys all the time

Josh is at a much more alarming rate at missing wide open guys the qb runs the offense im done blaming OCs for inept QB play we are scoring less then 20 a game 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, TJC25 said:

Josh is at a much more alarming rate at missing wide open guys the qb runs the offense im done blaming OCs for inept QB play we are scoring less then 20 a game 

So you don't see all the high level throws he makes? Simple question

 

He is inconsistent but makes alot of big time throws look easy. That's good for a 23 year old kid

[WideNine]

7 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

There is no one side of the ball at fault, but we're debating how much to blame one side of the ball or the other.  That can be tricky because nuance doesn't work on message boards. 

 

Still, the offense should be expected to do more against that defense.  And Buffalo's defense, despite some issues stopping the run, shouldn't be expected to keep that offense to less than 16 points.  There's too much talent over there, despite the record.

 

 

 

I think our defense should have been able to keep them out of the EZ on that drive because we needed them to.

 

The Browns as talented as they are, have been held to 13 points 3 times this year and once to only 3 points and they were not playing like like they did against the Ravens today regardless of their talent. It was clear that Wallace could not be left on an island and Frazier did on that drive and we paid for it.

 

The offense needs to play better too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

10 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Very true.

 

What's worse is that they should have used their final timeout when Singletary did not get out of bounds.

 

They could have saved more time to draw up a play to get the first down and probably get in closer field goal range or possibly get a touchdown. There was enough time to do that.

 

Instead, they let the clock run, letting precious seconds slip away. Putting Hauschka in a difficult situation.

 

 

It was terribly planned and executed. There was, I believe, atleast 40 to 50 seconds when they crossed midfield to get around the Browns 38ish yard line. Still PLENTY of time to get closer.

 

They wasted too much time and panicked (even with a TO) when they got into Browns territory. Thats 100% poor preparation. Terrible situational football, something McD supposedly preaches.

 

They were not ready to win the game, or even tie it at that matter.

 

[Mark Vader]

6 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

If receviers werent getting open and they were struggling i would agree run the ball more but they were getting open and josh was missing them

Yes, Josh Allen missed on some plays.

 

On that last drive though, he connected on a few passes that got us into a long field goal range.

 

The Bills refusing to take a timeout was critical, because they could have taken more time to make a play call and get to a closer field goal chance or score a touchdown.

 

Josh Allen is not perfect, but he's had 4 game winning touchdown drives this year, and I would not have been surprised if he had done it again today.

 

Letting time run off the clock in that moment was a terrible decision.

[TJC25]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

So you don't see all the high level throws he makes? Simple question

 

He is inconsistent but makes alot of big time throws look easy. That's good for a 23 year old kid

But he also makes the easy throws look difficult my guy yes he has a flashes but not one 300 yard pass game. Not one end to end consistent game? Simple question for you if the d doesnt show up and the offense has to put up 30 what chance do you give us for a win 

Just now, Mark Vader said:

Yes, Josh Allen missed on some plays.

 

On that last drive though, he connected on a few passes that got us into a long field goal range.

 

The Bills refusing to take a timeout was critical, because they could have taken more time to make a play call and get to a closer field goal chance or score a touchdown.

 

Josh Allen is not perfect, but he's had 4 game winning touchdown drives this year, and I would not have been surprised if he had done it again today.

 

Letting time run off the clock in that moment was a terrible decision.

Here is a major issue watch the last play cover 0 you know the defense is coming one the pass josh threw was horrible  7 yards off but he didnt recognize Beasley corner was 12 yards off coverage and he looked to that side and made a check at the line thoughs are the intangibles a qb needs he misses the easy plays

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, TJC25 said:

But he also makes the easy throws look difficult my guy yes he has a flashes but not one 300 yard pass game. Not one end to end consistent game? Simple question for you if the d doesnt show up and the offense has to put up 30 what chance do you give us for a win 

I never said he doesn't make some easy throws look harder but he isn't  piss poor on short gimme throws. He has been improved 2 fold since last season

 

QBs who make it in the league generally get better with experience. I'd take a guy at 23 who makes hard things look easy and believe that with coaching and experience the checkdowns and nuances will come

 

After all that's why coaches exist

 

[TJC25]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I never said he doesn't make some easy throws look harder but he isn't  piss poor on short gimme throws. He has been improved 2 fold since last season

 

QBs who make it in the league generally get better with experience. I'd take a guy at 23 who makes hard things look easy and believe that with coaching and experience the checkdowns and nuances will come

 

After all that's why coaches exist

 

We arent going to see eye to eye on this be has flash plays thats it low yardage games horrid picks bad decisions a qb just doesn't fail cause coaches fail him if you got it you got it you dont you dont its simple any great qb will tell you that 

[Mark Vader]

11 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

But he also makes the easy throws look difficult my guy yes he has a flashes but not one 300 yard pass game. Not one end to end consistent game? Simple question for you if the d doesnt show up and the offense has to put up 30 what chance do you give us for a win 

Here is a major issue watch the last play cover 0 you know the defense is coming one the pass josh threw was horrible  7 yards off but he didnt recognize Beasley corner was 12 yards off coverage and he looked to that side and made a check at the line thoughs are the intangibles a qb needs he misses the easy plays

I re-watched that play and I don't think Allen could have gotten the ball to Beasley, because the defenders were about to level him.

 

Again, the Bills refusal to take a timeout before that play was a terrible decision.

 

I know that Josh Allen has had some bad plays this season, but he's also had some good plays. He's doing much better than he did last season. Josh Allen deserves some of the blame today, but not ALL of it.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, TJC25 said:

We arent going to see eye to eye on this be has flash plays thats it low yardage games horrid picks bad decisions a qb just doesn't fail cause coaches fail him if you got it you got it you dont you dont its simple any great qb will tell you that 

He is tied for the league lead in 4th quarter comebacks and hasn't throw a pic in like over 100 attempts and has a better TD INT ratio than baker this season

 

Yea he has totally displayed he doesn't have it! Players never develop every year!

 

And he's only on Pace for like 3400 yards which you know would be Top 8 all time in Bills seasons. But he clearly sucks

[TJC25]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

I re-watched that play and I don't think Allen could have gotten the ball to Beasley, because the defenders were about to level him.

 

Again, the Bills refusal to take a timeout before that play was a terrible decision.

 

I know that Josh Allen has had some bad plays this season, but he's also had some good plays. He's doing much better than he did last season. Josh Allen deserves some of the blame today, but not ALL of it.

So your saying if josh recognized off the line like he should have and then that was his first reas didnt have enough time to throw a 5 yard pass but had enough time to throw a 20 yard pass. Your d held nfl team to under 20 points we are only scoring 19 a game its been a whole season thing im not just going off today 

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He is tied for the league lead in 4th quarter comebacks and hasn't throw a pic in like over 100 attempts and has a better TD INT ratio than baker this season

 

Yea he has totally displayed he doesn't have it! Players never develop every year!

 

And he's only on Pace for like 3400 yards which you know would be Top 8 all time in Bills seasons. But he clearly sucks

How many of those comebacks were because of the offense not scoring the first 3 quarters? How many of those comebacks were because josh allen turned the ball over in bad spots answer me that. How many comebacks where there was the defense held a team under 20 points and a pathetic offense couldnt score till 5 mintues left in the 4th 

Edited November 11, 2019 by TJC25

[Mark Vader]

15 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

So your saying if josh recognized off the line like he should have and then that was his first reas didnt have enough time to throw a 5 yard pass but had enough time to throw a 20 yard pass. Your d held nfl team to under 20 points we are only scoring 19 a game its been a whole season thing im not just going off today 

How many of those comebacks were because of the offense not scoring the first 3 quarters? How many of those comebacks were because josh allen turned the ball over in bad spots answer me that. How many comebacks where there was the defense held a team under 20 points and a pathetic offense couldnt score till 5 mintues left in the 4th 

Alright, so what exactly is your point.

 

That Josh Allen should be cut from the team?

[TJC25]

3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Alright, so what exactly is your point.

 

That Josh Allen should be cut from the team?

He has to start playing better as a qb and not be praised for inept QB play or be given a pass for bad coaching when actually the gameplan has not been that bad 

Edited November 11, 2019 by TJC25

[Mark Vader]

Just now, TJC25 said:

He has to start playing better as a qb and not be praised for inept QB play 

You don't think he's played better at all?

[BillsFan2313]

2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Except it wasn’t the final drive. The Bills got the ball back with about 1:40 on the clock and a timeout. You should win or tie that game 90% of the time. It’s a ton of time, and they couldn’t do it. Sometimes the team who has the ball last is going to win the game, and this should have been one of those times. NFL rules don’t favor the defense. 

 

The kicker missed two FGs. Is that something you forgot, or what?