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Redskins Just made OT Trent Williams Available [Edit: now NFI]

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Just now, MAJBobby said:


yeah 31 year old hasn’t played football in how long. When has he played a full 16 game season. Yep a 3rd 

Fair enough, but some team will pony up a 2nd at least and a 1st wouldn't surprise me.

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Please make this happen.  I wouldn’t give up a 1st unless we got a 2nd back in return with Trent. 

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4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Fair enough, but some team will pony up a 2nd at least and a 1st wouldn't surprise me.

Then they would overpay. 

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LaConjecture says there is more available 

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

LaConjecture says there is more available 

Norman was at his best with mcd and we have cash...

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OT is not in my top four needs right now.

They need Edge, DT, WR, and possibly RB before an OT of his age. I was more worried about RT a few weeks ago. My main worry since the start of training camp has been the pass rush. Everyone said don't worry Oliver will be great. Well he's been mostly a dud so far. Which is what I predicted in year one. They need an edge rusher now.

 

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9 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Norman was at his best with mcd and we have cash...

 

 

We don't play anyone that warrants getting Norman.

 

But we do play Chubb...Zeke....Lamar....

 

And if we play the Ravens--Pats--Colts in the playoffs you really don't.  

 

We need Dline/LBs or WR.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

We don't play anyone that warrants getting Norman.

 

But we do play Chubb...Zeke....Lamar....

 

And if we play the Ravens--Pats--Colts in the playoffs you really don't.  

 

We need Dline/LBs or WR.  

 

 


And it DOESNT concern anyone that three years and the McD built defense is still not good enough even with all the assets poured into it?

 

 

Just now, Reed83HOF said:


and with this I am out. No way I am giving up a 1st for him. 

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29 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:


yeah 31 year old hasn’t played football in how long. When has he played a full 16 game season. Yep a 3rd 

 

 

...didn't we sign one of their wounded warriors, a/k/a Murphy who is on the proverbial "TBD Hot List"?.....inherit the balance of his 2019 $10.85 mil tariff and $12.5 mil due in 2020?.....as well as ponying up a pick?...."Alex, I'll take AIN'T HAPPENING for $1,000"...........

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14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...didn't we sign one of their wounded warriors, a/k/a Murphy who is on the proverbial "TBD Hot List"?.....inherit the balance of his 2019 $10.85 mil tariff and $12.5 mil due in 2020?.....as well as ponying up a pick?...."Alex, I'll take AIN'T HAPPENING for $1,000"...........

As good as he is...forget it. Haven't the Bills learned their lesson about injured players. NY State has some of the finest medical care around, but geez!

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Meh, I don't think I give up a 1st or a 2nd for Williams. A 3rd, maybe. I'd rather have a pass rusher that gets Murphy off of the field. 

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31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:


And it DOESNT concern anyone that three years and the McD built defense is still not good enough even with all the assets poured into it?

 

 


and with this I am out. No way I am giving up a 1st for him. 

Keep in mind not all 2nd round picks are equal. A Pats or GB 2nd is like an early 3rd. 

That bring said, welcome to the Browns Trent! They're desperate and will offer a 2nd without blinking.

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Just now, billsbackto81 said:

Keep in mind not all 2nd round picks are equal. A Pats or GB 2nd is like an early 3rd. 

That bring said, welcome to the Browns Trent! They're desperate and will offer a 2nd without blinking.

They are the likely team with the 2nd on the table 

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I'd give up a first for him if it wasn't for his injuries.  He hasn’t played a full season since 2013 and hasn’t played over 800 snaps since 2015.  He was also revered by his peers for playing through painful injuries so I don't question his work ethic.  He's an elite LT that the Bills could use but you're taking a chance on him so a 2nd round pick is the most I'd give up for him.

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He has not played this year and with him perusing medical help he may choose to just continue to be unavailable and Bills will have little leverage to make him play.

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He was also seeking a new contract and will likely hold out next year without one.

 

Unless the coaching staff has someone who knows him really well it is a hard pass for 2nd and above

 

 

  BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER OPTION WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2015   27 $4,750,000 $2,120,000 $2,000,000 $1,480,388 $250,000 $10,600,388 $34,215,000 $15,111,383 ($15,111,383)  
2016   28 $5,161,764 $1,620,000 $218,750 $1,905,880 - $8,906,394 $23,550,000 $14,909,914 ($30,021,297)  
2017   29 $11,250,000 $1,620,000 $187,500 $1,905,880 - $14,963,380  $24,350,000 $11,406,250 ($41,427,547)  
2018   30 $9,850,000 $1,620,000 $203,125 $1,905,880 - $13,579,005 $18,967,640 $10,053,125 ($51,480,672)  
2019   31 $10,850,000 $1,620,000 $203,125 $1,905,880 - $3,525,880 $5,511,760 $11,053,125 ($62,533,797)  
2020   32 $12,500,000 - $250,000 $2,000,000 - $14,750,000 $2,000,000 $12,750,000 ($75,283,797)  
      UFA  

Snap Counts

  Games Off. Snaps Def. Snaps ST Snaps
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Num Pct Num Pct Num Pct
Career           6117   0   202
2012* 24 WAS LT 71 16 16 970 94% 0 0% 73 16%
2013* 25 WAS LT 71 16 16 1142 100% 0 0% 49 10%
2014* 26 WAS LT 71 15 15 877 83% 0 0% 35 8%
2015* 27 WAS T 71 14 14 926 87% 0 0% 40 9%
2016* 28 WAS LT 71 12 12 795 75% 0 0% 3 1%
2017* 29 WAS T 71 10 10 615 61% 0 0% 2 0%
2018* 30 WAS lg/T 71 13 13 792 78% 0 0% 0 0%
1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...didn't we sign one of their wounded warriors, a/k/a Murphy who is on the proverbial "TBD Hot List"?.....inherit the balance of his 2019 $10.85 mil tariff and $12.5 mil due in 2020?.....as well as ponying up a pick?...."Alex, I'll take AIN'T HAPPENING for $1,000"...........


Alex (Smith) also is not happening. Another wounded veteran in Washington.   :devil:

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2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

So what would the plan be, start him at LT and kick Dawkins over to guard? Does that move carry enough of a positive value to offense the draft haul this move would take? I'd pass on this. We need a receiver or a 1 tech. Keep building the o-line through the draft.

 

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I'd do it for a first.  Hes the best OT in football.  Build around Josh.  The defense will not hold everyone under 20 points.  As much as everyone wants a Wr, me included.  Who's available?  Trent Williams is available.  He plays a premier position and is top in the league at it.

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I hope he doesn't go to Browns. Chubb running behind Trent is scary.

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