Big Turk Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 hours ago, FLbills said: I know losing sucks, but isn't this a little extreme? ? Lmao!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said: To quote the infamous Aaron Rodgers ... R-E-L-A-X ... rated 12th among 70 linebacker .. I'll take it. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-rankings-top-25-second-year-nfl-players-week-7-2019 8. LB Tremaine Edmunds, Buffalo Bills At the time that Edmunds was drafted, he was just 19 years old. That youth and inexperience showed early in his career, as he stumbled out of the gate with a 47.0 overall grade across his first eight career games. As the season progressed, though, his athleticism and playmaking ability in the middle of the Buffalo defense began to make it apparent that improvement was on the way. Edmunds did, in fact, improve his grade to 70.5 over the second half of the season, and he has carried over that improved play into 2019. His overall grade of 71.1 this season ranks 12th among 70 linebackers with 175 or more defensive snaps, anchoring one of the better defenses in the league. and for those Vander Esch Lovers Lastly, Vander Esch has recorded a run-defense grade of 44.4 this season while allowing 243 receiving yards as the primary coverage defender. So depending on the day, PFF is either garbage or gospel, depending on what point someone is trying to make? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So depending on the day, PFF is either garbage or gospel, depending on what point someone is trying to make? Agreed it can argued depending on the point .. but at the end of the day ... It's basically number crunching ... at least there's a relevancy to actual football based data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Let's all question every position on the field on both sides of the ball, except for the most important position in all four major sports: QUARTERBACK. So is Reid Ferguson really the answer at long snapper????? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Rigotz said: Ed Oliver is 21 years old and basically learning a new position. Tremaine Edmunds is 21 years old and already running the defense. I can't believe you're giving up on these guys already. Quitters will be quitters though. Patriots bandwagon is still open, buddy. This is one of the most asinine takes in the galaxy. We're fans, we react; that's our job. I was a Bills fan before your ass was in diapers. Crap play needs to be called crap play. If you don't have concerns about both players then my hot take would be that you don't understand the ***** game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The “he’s so young” crap was used by many poster for years, defending one Marcel Dareus...until they shipped his overweight and unmotivated a$$ out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The “he’s so young” crap was used by many poster for years, defending one Marcel Dareus...until they shipped his overweight and unmotivated a$$ out of here. That was not an excuse for his play, but his off-field behavior. That's what got him traded. There was never a question of Dareus learning on the job. Also note that the worst defensive run outings by a McDermott team have all come after the Dareus trade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, GG said: That was not an excuse for his play, but his off-field behavior. That's what got him traded. There was never a question of Dareus learning on the job. Also note that the worst defensive run outings by a McDermott team have all come after the Dareus trade No. A lot of the excuses were used(he’s so young) after his bank account became very big. One good year and then he became a content fat cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: No. A lot of the excuses were used(he’s so young) after his bank account became very big. One good year and then he became a content fat cat. That's not the same as excusing bad play because he was young and was still learning the position. At a certain point, that argument gets tired for a guy who's started 22 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, GG said: That's not the same as excusing bad play because he was young and was still learning the position. At a certain point, that argument gets tired for a guy who's started 22 games. Only time will tell. I may end up being completely wrong, but I feel that any chance he has at being an above average player will be at OLB. I’ll move on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 If you have Zeke in FFL and you start him when the Bills play the Cowboys you are guaranteed a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Only time will tell. I may end up being completely wrong, but I feel that any chance he has at being an above average player will be at OLB. I’ll move on now. I think that's point. Most criticism is about the miscasting of his role. It's becoming clearer that Bills will be better served with a more traditional MLB and kicking Edmunds outside. I wonder if Beane still trades Ragland away of Edmunds was already on the roster? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Seems too weak at runs at him. Needs more bulk and strength. Good at chase. Doesnt shed blocks well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 hours ago, fansince88 said: As much as I love Lorax he is old. Players thst age play second string. Gore needs to be 2nd string as well. He can pass Payton in yardage in the XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Capco said: Imo, there are two things that are hallmarks of NFL middle libebackers: 1. Instincts 2. Edginess When I watch Edmunds, I do not see an instinctual linebacker that plays with an edge. I'm not sure how you grow into either of those things, but otherwise the talent is undeniable. This^ has always been my impression of Edmunds. He picks the wrong gap to attack quite often. Gets tied up with blockers too easily. The plays he makes are typically to the outside. Is he better suited as an OLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Nobody is the answer anywhere, OP. They should all just probably be replaced by CFL guys. Just for losing this one game here, they need to be fired! FIRED I TELL YOUSE! They'll be fine. Edmunds will be fine. It's still a young team coming together and learning how to win. These types of questions after one loss are just ridiculous. If you think one loss is going to dramatically change things to the point where they decide their first round MLB isn't the guy then you're gonna be disappointed when things carry on as usual. They had a rough game but this is a resilient team and I'm sure they were dying to get in there today and start fixing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 16 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Edmunds was consistently bad against the run today. He flashed on one play. Outside of that, he was consistently catching blocks and trailing plays. Teams are running right at him, and he isn't stopping anyone in their tracks. Why does he play so close to the LOS? I'd like to see them back him up a yard and allow his speed to make up for his lack of physicality. I think his worst play was when he had his back to the QB and the QB ran right by him for a first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: I think that's point. Most criticism is about the miscasting of his role. It's becoming clearer that Bills will be better served with a more traditional MLB and kicking Edmunds outside. I wonder if Beane still trades Ragland away of Edmunds was already on the roster? Edmunds belongs outside. He is definately miscast as a MLB. I did not want to believe it for quite awhile. Time to get a true MLB. Devin White would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, GreggTX said: Allen and Edmunds are just good enough to hold us back for a few years because they were 1st rounders that we spent a lot of capital on. This regime will sink with them rather than let them go. Their situation is similar to Tannehill's when he was a fish. He played just well enough to stick around, but kept the team from being a serious threat. It's starting to look like Oliver could fit the same mold. Beane just can't get those 1st round picks right and that spells disaster for a GM. You've got to get those high picks right. Oliver will be ok. Edmunds needs to go outside. The Bills obviously need a DE, MLB and DT. McDermott is a great coach and he tries to get the most out of what he has. The overall talent is still lacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 17 hours ago, KOKO NFL said: I've heard all the talk that our second year MLB is a physical freak with size and speed. My eyes, however, tell me he's not tough or instinctive enough to be a good MLB, let alone a great one. IMO Beane and McDermott need to take a serious look at this position in the off season and upgrade. Perhaps Edmonds is better suited for OLB? Fans can speculate but only the coaching staff can make an educated guess. So... is Tremaine Edmunds the answer at MLB? Outside he should go...it is too obvious now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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