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Josh Allen Failed His First Big Test

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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

I think he's clearly a better QB than what he was last year...and I think he's got a ways to go.

 

Why you feel so desperate to validate a pre-draft take that was absurd from the start that you only show up in a post-game thread after his first lousy performance of the season is what is baffling.

 

You can call it baffling but really

 

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2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Brady took what was there, which was next to nothing.

 

Our defense is outstanding.

 

Brady, unlike Allen, knows when to not throw the ball into coverage. 

 

Way to contradict yourself.

 

LMAO

And New England’S defense was terrible? Do you even think about the BS you spew?

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42 minutes ago, Dafan said:

Can't really say he failed....he didn't finish the game.  He stays in and I think Bills score the go ahead TD.

 

Agree with this 

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:


ummmm it has been. But again that does show improvement and contradicts the points of no improvement being shown


it literally proves nothing. Barkley came in cold off the bench and had 127 passing yards in less than a quarter. 
 

200 yards in today’s NFL isn’t anything to write home about.

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Today was his first game of the season where inaccuracy was a major issue. He missed several easy short completions, especially early in the game. Eventually he needs to hit a deep ball to an NFL open receiver. All that arm talent and he wastes it by overthrowing everyone down the field. I can live with the dumb interceptions now and again but he can't be this inconsistent with reading the field and hitting his receivers in stride. Pretty demoralizing performance from him today. Yeah maybe he would have won the game if not for the concussion but honestly we should have had the game won by halftime. We can't always wait for the 4th quarter for Allen to turn it on.

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Just now, thebandit27 said:

 

Oh really? Explain that one.

 

I'll wait.

 

Their secondary is good.

 

Looking at their front seven, I'm not sure they have anyone who would start in our defensive front seven. 

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35 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

4 Turnovers plus a sack that took them out of FG range. He was a big part of the points NE got and the lack of scoring we had. For right now it’s OK but it forces some not fun questions about his play which is very up and down

 

Yes, a young QB’s play is generally up and down. Why is this surprising to you? Do you’re recognize names like Aikman and Peyton? Maybe you should look it up? HOF QB’s don’t always look like HOF QB’s as rookies, which is essentially what Josh is with 15 starts. I’m NOT saying he’s all that, but I’m smart enough to know you can’t tell yet. 

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1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

Their secondary is good.

 

Looking at their front seven, I'm not sure they have anyone who would start in our defensive front seven. 

How many sacks they get today? How the final Bills play go?

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27 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Why can't anyone have a conversation about how our QB has been one of the worst starters in the league this year?

 

Why is this just being dismissed?

 

Because you’re a crusader 

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2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

How many sacks they get today? How the final Bills play go?

 

They had 5 sacks. A few were the result of our QBs holding the ball too long.

 

The last play they got a ton of pressure and got a tipped pass for an interception.

 

How many of their defensive front seven starters would start for us?

 

Their defense is very good, but I view ours as much better. Our defense is up their with Chicago as the best in the league. 

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I think Josh is a little overconfident - not cocky, but a bit too sure of himself at times. In the previous three games, he put the game on his shoulders, took too many chances, and made some costly mistakes. But he rallied the team in the fourth quarter and got three wins, so he figured he could keep doing it. If he hadn't been injured, it's possible that he would have pulled off a game-winning drive today.

 

Hopefully, this is a wake-up call for him. Fourth quarter heroics can't always make up for undisciplined play earlier in the game.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

Yes, a young QB’s play is generally up and down. Why is this surprising to you? Do you’re recognize names like Aikman and Peyton? Maybe you should look it up? HOF QB’s don’t always look like HOF QB’s as rookies, which is essentially what Josh is with 15 starts. I’m NOT saying he’s all that, but I’m smart enough to know you can’t tell yet. 

Jesus he had a bad day which opened some questions. It was referendum on his career today. Your right aikman manning weren’t HOFs day one yet Watson Mahomes and Jackson all seem to not be having as many issues. The kids got talent and seems like he has the potential to be the dude but he’s got to be smarter and do better. He didn’t a real test today which is OK but I want better and he better do better 

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33 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Nope.

 

Pats O - 1 TD + 1 FG

Bills O - 1 TD + 1 FG

 

STs were the difference 

 

I would argue Allen's turnovers were at least as big a difference. You could argue he took 6 points off the board with sacks, and he gave the Pats good field position too many times.

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30 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Why can't anyone have a conversation about how our QB has been one of the worst starters in the league this year?

 

Why is this just being dismissed?

 

QBR is the worst stat ever invented. You'd rather have a guy like Trubisky? Or Brissett? 

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Just now, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

QBR is the worst stat ever invented. You'd rather have a guy like Trubisky? Or Brissett? 

 

QB Rating not QBR.

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I'm not going to read through all of this.  Yes, he had a bad game, but Brady looked pretty bad as well and we all know how good he is.  It was a defensive battle and both QBs struggled.  No reason to over react - he is still learning and played against a great defense.  Time will tell on if he's the guy, but this game shouldn't be the measuring stick

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4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:


so you didn’t watch the game. Still waiting for the 4 TOs. 
 

3-1 

You can only post their record for so long, eventually it might not backup your point the way you want. Allen is not "getting it", he's a turnover machine and the defense while great, cannot play like that every game. The next few games will really tell where this team is headed. This is where Bills seasons of the past went off the rails.

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5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Their secondary is good.

 

Looking at their front seven, I'm not sure they have anyone who would start in our defensive front seven. 

 

And yet they held the Rams offense to 3 points in the Super Bowl.

 

Ok man, I can't go any further with you. You're apparently willing to go to ridiculous lengths to justify your stance.

 

I'm out.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I would argue Allen's turnovers were at least as big a difference. You could argue he took 6 points off the board with sacks, and he gave the Pats good field position too many times.

 

What you can't argue with is that without the block punt TD the Bills win the game.

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28 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Why can't anyone have a conversation about how our QB has been one of the worst starters in the league this year?

 

Why is this just being dismissed?

I dismiss everything you say about QBs because back in the BBMB days you wanted to trade the entire draft to pick Jamies Winston.  Plus you only show up here when they don’t play well. Your opinions in QB play are worthless.

 

Allen got schooled by a master today.  He needs to have a Gore or another wise vet sit him down and convince him that the success of the team is not all on him, and he has to stop making that same mistake of throwing late into coverage.

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11 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

They had 5 sacks. A few were the result of our QBs holding the ball too long.

 

The last play they got a ton of pressure and got a tipped pass for an interception.

 

How many of their defensive front seven starters would start for us?

 

Their defense is very good, but I view ours as much better. Our defense is up their with Chicago as the best in the league. 

I agree with that statement. I don't need their starters, ours are great and play as a team.  

 

Bears, Bills and Pats have the best units in the league hands down. I can't tell you what order though. 

 

Josh isn't gonna be playing a top 1-3 D every week. He'll be fine.

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