Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Allen is being outplayed by Gardner Minshew and Daniel Jones so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I'll admit, Allen struggled a lot today, and has some ball security issues, but doesn't anyone feel like the Bills were passing the ball way too much today? The run game was good for the most part. It seems like the game was being called to cater to an offense that the Bills are not. And when the smart thing to do is run, they pass, and hurt themselves. I know we all want to see a modern, high powered, near unstoppable passing attack, but this team just isn't ready for that yet. When the passing game has worked this year, it's been on quick, short throws that move the chains. The Bills seem to get away from what they do best too much, like they're guilty of ovee thinking things. Basically, they're out coaching themselves. Couple that with numerous instances where they shoot themsleves in the foot, and you get the 2019 Bills. With a good defense, it's good enough to beat bad teams, but will be the reasons why you lose to good/better teams in a close scoring game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Football is a team game. but yet you want to put this loss on Allen. Interesting. So does it Matter our Offense scored the same amount as the vaunted Brady and Patriots? Does that matter now or no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Football is a team game. But that was not the question asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bevis said: Allen is being outplayed by Gardner Minshew and Daniel Jones so far this season. Guess you missed Jones back to back Picks today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Playing teams with a cumulative record of 0-9 might have played a part in that. It's crappola when somehow this game is the real Josh and the last 3 where he played (in your words) reasonably well mean nothing. It's still an agenda. You are committed to your original "Josh Allen is terrible and I'm never wrong" take and won't be bothered with what actually happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 People are seeming to forget we didn't get a chance to see Allen lead the Bills to another come from behind heroic victory. Then he'd be 4-0 and on top of AFC East and gotten to cram the victory Dildy down Brady's throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: but yet you want to put this loss on Allen. Interesting. So does it Matter our Offense scored the same amount as the vaunted Brady and Patriots? Does that matter now or no Yeah. The offensive line aren't the ones voluntarily throwing into double coverage. The interceptions are all a direct result of Allen making terrible decisions. And yes it does matter. We have arguably the best defense in the league. There's no reason we shouldn't have lost today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Funny thing is I hated the Allen pick and if you don’t think that go back and see my posts during that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: but yet you want to put this loss on Allen. Interesting. So does it Matter our Offense scored the same amount as the vaunted Brady and Patriots? Does that matter now or no No, they needed to score more, and Allen was responsible for 4 turnovers preventing them from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Typical Bills fans throwing a young QB under the bus after a bad game against a solid team. We’re 3-1 with our only loss coming to the ***** Patriots. The media has been drooling over their defense all week for a reason and we just seen it. That and a lot of blown calls that always go the Pats way. Allen has got to smarten up for sure, but what’s up with abandoning the no huddle when it worked great at the end of the 2nd and start of the 3rd? Isn’t the coaches job to put this guy in position to be successful? He clearly had his way with the Pats during those drives. I understand wanting to run the ball but when you find a weakness in a good D you got to take advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Yeah. The offensive line aren't the ones voluntarily throwing into double coverage. The interceptions are all a direct result of Allen making terrible decisions. And yes it does matter. We have arguably the best defense in the league. There's no reason we shouldn't have lost today. so Did Allen cause a Blocked Punt? That won the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Yeah. The offensive line aren't the ones voluntarily throwing into double coverage. The interceptions are all a direct result of Allen making terrible decisions. And yes it does matter. We have arguably the best defense in the league. There's no reason we shouldn't have lost today. Now do Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, corta765 said: The Pats at home for the division lead and Allen played his worst game of the season and worst since he went out with injury last year. This was an opportunity for a statement and instead we got the worst parts of Allen’s game which was trying for big plays which resulted in INTs and pocket presence failure resulting in loss of points. This isn’t the end of the world either. Allen deserves credit for leading the team to 3 wins and you can certainly see his improvement as a QB. But after saying he was done with hero ball, he instead forced 3 different balls for INTs which were crucial to the loss. On the positive his second half play was better and you have to remember NE is really good so it wasn’t like it was against a bunch of scrubs. But this was his first real chance against a great team and he flopped big time. Up until today he was playing at a level that was very workable with no real signs to say his trajectory was down. But this was a bad day which opened some concerns about his long term viability. While I am not a big stat guy he has 3 TDs thrown against 6 INTs plus a bunch of fumbles too. The goal with drafting Allen was getting a guy who can do enough to beat the top dogs like NE and today at argument could’ve been made that the Bills were better off with Barkley just because he would’ve given less negative plays. The second half of the year will have more real opponents like BAL, NE, and DAL. The Bills defense is good enough to make a real run with and the offense has some good weapons like Beasley Brown and possibly Knox who is emerging a bit. Allen failed today but he has a good test to comeback next week and more opportunities to show he can move to that next level. He didn't get to finish the exam dude! Edited September 29, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 He just isn't accurate. Even when the completion % is good his passes are off target. He's a gamer, and tough as nails. But we're still limited based off of his accracy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: 3 picks= failure. Don't get me wrong I think he will be just fine but he played poorly today. He did play poorly today.....come on folks Allen fans can agree with this and still think he is going to be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Allen is currently 32nd in the NFL in QB Rating. He hasn't been good all year. His decision making has been poor week in and week out. You’re posts about Allen have been weak all year, only behind bigdickhead, so there’s that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Guess you missed Jones back to back Picks today Still less turnovers than Allen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Bevis said: No, they needed to score more, and Allen was responsible for 4 turnovers preventing them from doing so. 4 turnovers. What game where you watching? He had 3 picks. Just now, Bevis said: Still less turnovers than Allen... And less wins. So what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: It's crappola when somehow this game is the real Josh and the last 3 where he played (in your words) reasonably well mean nothing. It's still an agenda. You are committed to your original "Josh Allen is terrible and I'm never wrong" take and won't be bothered with what actually happens. You act like Allen was playing great the first 3 weeks. News flash! He wasn't. When Allen has been good this year, he's been okay. When he's been bad, he's been really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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