JaCrispy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, london_bills said: Up the sass jacrispy. We need more sass. I’ll see what I can do, but I make no promises ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, london_bills said: It's quite simple really. Just look at all the plays that are left on the field by allen. Watch the Allen presser. He admits to being jittery. Swap QBs and we win the game. Do we? Are you assuming this with the exact same play calling? Swap QBs and many don't make a number of the plays Allen made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Do we? Are you assuming this with the exact same play calling? Swap QBs and many don't make a number of the plays Allen made. I do think that. Painful to say but Brady on the bills yesterday and we win I think. Just better at hitting the open plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Do we? Are you assuming this with the exact same play calling? Swap QBs and many don't make a number of the plays Allen made. Absolutely true. Allen makes a lot of big boy throws. There’s an accurate middle ground that Allen can’t continue to fall asleep for drives at a time against good teams, but he absolutely makes key plays as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Curious thought, how many passes has Allen failed to complete this year because he was off the mark & how does that compare to the rest of the NFL? I’m talking specifically about those throws less than 20 yards downfield like the one to Beasley where he was 10’ too far ahead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, wppete said: 10 - 5 and playoff bound. These are the important numbers! are you saying micromanaging competition % is ummmmm unnecessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: are you saying micromanaging competition % is ummmmm unnecessary? It’s easy to point at completion percentage as a clear sign Allen is much improved this year compared to last. I don’t think it’s unnecessary at all. Especially when it passes the eye test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Bill Belicheat Defense vs a 2nd year QB in his 26th career start at home on a national stage. Can you tell us how that typically goes for the young QB? Again, Allen missed some critical throws, but he also wasn't suckered into costly mistakes Patriot defenses. The only thing Buffalo's defense had to do was keep Brady & co out of the End zone with 9 minutes remaining and Buffalo wins. That's how McDermott has built this team... for us to win in those situations. This game may be an outlier for our Defense, but I bet the players on D would put this game on themselves as well. Allen, if we're all being objective, did better than anyone would have expected considering the circumstances. He has work to do obviously, but I think this game probably should be more a shot of confidence for him than one of dejection Josh had a 102 QB rating against the Pats last night. He's getting better, in fact his QB ranking is 25% better than last year while only throwing 3 INT's in the last 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Josh had a 102 QB rating against the Pats last night. He's getting better, in fact his QB ranking is 25% better than last year while only throwing 3 INT's in the last 11 games. Compared to Josh Allen’s performance last time against the Pats and he played leaps and bounds better as well. Well enough to beat the Pats is debateable, but it’s not debateable he did better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, london_bills said: It's natural to ask the question 'would this result be different if those open receivers were hit.' It'd clearly be fair to then also ask the question if our record would be different if our WRs, TEs and RBs caught the 22+ balls they dropped this year that were thrown to them. Right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Allen continues to make the hard throws look easy, and the easy throws look hard. At some point that will need to change if we want to start beating good teams. His decision making is much better, but his execution is still lacking consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Andrew Luck - was trending towards being a HOF QB if he played another 8-10 years. 60.8% career completion percentage. 2nd year - 60.2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It'd clearly be fair to then also ask the question if our record would be different if our WRs, TEs and RBs caught the 22+ balls they dropped this year that were thrown to them. Right? Yes of course. Drops don't help. The ball needs to be positioned well for the receivers though also. The low pass to knox against the Pats I would put more on allen even though it could of been caught, so there is a subjective line there. With Allen there is some inaccuracy at times. There have been drops though. l'm looking at the drops list and not seeing a black and white correlation between drops and doing badly. Bills on 22, pats on 21, SF on 19 drops. Atlanta with only 4 drops all season and they are not doing very well. Trubisky, fitzpatrick and Brady all high on drops so they should also get a break for that. Edited December 23, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, london_bills said: Yes of course. Drops don't help. The ball needs to be positioned well for the receivers though also. The low pass to knox against the Pats I would put more on allen even though it could of been caught, so there is a subjective line there. The low pass to Knox would not be counted as a drop. There are specific criteria. A ball that is low or high or requires the receiver to jump or dive is not scored as a drop, even if it hits the receivers hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The low pass to Knox would not be counted as a drop. There are specific criteria. A ball that is low or high or requires the receiver to jump or dive is not scored as a drop, even if it hits the receivers hands. Ok thanks for clarifying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, klos63 said: Allen makes too many poor throws. It hurts the team, despite all the good things he does. Nothing wrong with pointing out those misses. There were 2 TD's we missed that most QB's would have made. Does an incompletion hurt the team more than an Interception? Do you think another QB in the NFL makes that 4th and 1 yesterday or vs Dallas? One needs to weigh it ALL when thinking about the QB, not just whether he missed a few throws he should have completed... although once again, at that point, shouldn't we also factor in the 22+ passes that our WRs, TEs and RBs dropped this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Does an incompletion hurt the team more than an Interception? Do you think another QB in the NFL makes that 4th and 1 yesterday or vs Dallas? One needs to weigh it ALL when thinking about the QB, not just whether he missed a few throws he should have completed... although once again, at that point, shouldn't we also factor in the 22+ passes that our WRs, TEs and RBs dropped this year? Which 4th and 1 transplantsbillsfan, the last play of the game? Edited December 23, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 ^someone explain to this guy how drops effect an offense that has a lower amount of attempts on average (like ours) than one like the Patriots who throw the ball at a high rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The low pass to Knox would not be counted as a drop. There are specific criteria. A ball that is low or high or requires the receiver to jump or dive is not scored as a drop, even if it hits the receivers hands. And this is why the # of drops attributed to the Bills receivers is artificially low. Bills receivers seem to make fewer tough catches then their counterparts around the league. And while that low pass to Knox wasn't a drop it's a pass that is caught by a lot of NFL skill players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: ^someone explain to this guy how drops effect an offense that has a lower amount of attempts on average (like ours) than one like the Patriots who throw the ball at a high rate Hm. Then inaccurate throws will effect our offence more than others? Edited December 23, 2019 by london_bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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