Whistleblower Has Been Backed Up By Multiple Witnesses

[TakeYouToTasker]

17 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

False: Biden pushed out a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating his son

Trump has falsely claimed that Biden in 2015 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating Ukraine’s largest private gas company, Burisma, which had added Biden’s son, Hunter, to its board in 2014.

 

There are two big problems with this claim: One, Shokin was not investigating Burisma or Hunter Biden, and two, Shokin’s ouster was considered a diplomatic victory.

 

Biden was among the many Western officials who pressed for the removal of Shokin because he actually was not investigating the corruption endemic to the country. Indeed, he was not investigating Burisma at the time. In September 2015, then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly criticized Shokin’s office for thwarting a British money-laundering probe into Burisma’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky.

 

“Shokin was not investigating. He didn’t want to investigate Burisma,” Daria Kaleniuk, of the Ukrainian Anti-Corruption Action Center, told The Washington Post in July. “And Shokin was fired not because he wanted to do that investigation, but quite to the contrary, because he failed that investigation.”

 

In a 2018 appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations, Biden bragged about his role in Shokin’s removal, saying he had withheld $1 billion in loan guarantees as leverage to force action. But Biden was carrying out a policy developed at the State Department and coordinated with the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

 

The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms. Getting rid of Shokin was considered the linchpin of reform efforts, but U.S. officials had a list of changes the government needed to make before it could obtain another loan guarantee.

 

In December 2015, Biden traveled to Kiev and decried the “cancer of corruption” in the country in a speech to the parliament. “The Office of the General Prosecutor desperately needs reform,” he noted. Shokin was removed from office three months later, and Biden announced April 15 that the loan guarantee would go forward; the agreement between the United States and Ukraine was signed June 3.

 

One can certainly raise questions about Hunter Biden’s judgment in joining Burisma’s board at a time his father had a high-profile role in working with Ukraine’s government. But by continuing to claim that Biden “did” something for his son, Trump persists in spreading a false narrative about a diplomatic maneuver hailed at the time as a step toward reducing corruption in Ukraine.

 

This account is wholly untrue according to a bevy of recently released documents, and the direct testimony of Shokin.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-newly-revealed-documents-blow-up-bidens-ukraine-story

 

“The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors,” said Shokin. “On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the case against Burisma and consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company but I refused to close this investigation.”

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Questions the media won't ask... despite claiming to be "journalists" and "objective". 

 

It was always a coup. Still is. 

[RaoulDuke79]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Questions the media won't ask... despite claiming to be "journalists" and "objective". 

 

It was always a coup. Still is. 

People freaked out when Trump labeled the media the enemy of the people,  but it's spot on.

[dubs]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Questions the media won't ask... despite claiming to be "journalists" and "objective". 

 

It was always a coup. Still is. 

 

Yep. Anyone who believes anything from the MSM deserves exactly what they are going to eventually get, completely and totally controlled. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, RaoulDuke79 said:

People freaked out when Trump labeled the media the enemy of the people,  but it's spot on.

 

Yup. 

(In general terms)

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

People freaked out when Trump labeled the media the enemy of the people,  but it's spot on.

 

He was right. But some here just can't accept the threat they pose nor stomach the remedies necessary.

Edited September 28, 2019 by Joe in Winslow

[Deranged Rhino]

...Let's see how this goes.

 

[DC Tom]

44 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Questions the media won't ask... despite claiming to be "journalists" and "objective". 

 

It was always a coup. Still is. 

 

@Crayola64: in other words, IT'S LEGALLY HEARSAY.

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

@Crayola64: in other words, IT'S LEGALLY HEARSAY.

if it's heard in the third chair....does it become illegal heresy?

[Hedge]

 

 

Once again "Liddle' Adam Schiff". This gives me hope that the band aid will actually get ripped all the way off.

[Numark3]

1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

@Crayola64: in other words, IT'S LEGALLY HEARSAY.

 

No its not.  Second hand knowledge does not equal hearsay.  It really is not a difficult concept to grasp.  

[Foxx]

in addition to the Whistleblower laws being rewritten, i am hearing whispers that they have done the same thing with the FEC bylaws. Weintraub has rewritten the, 'Interpretive Rule Concerning Prohibited Activities Involving Foreign Nationals'. essentially, 'things of value' which are to include, 'information'. very vaguely written, without any precedent. look for this to become a thing in the days to come.

 

these ***** are such a joke.

 

Interpretive Rule Concerning Prohibited Activities Involving Foreign Nationals

 

@EllenLWeintraub

[Numark3]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

if it's heard in the third chair....does it become illegal heresy?

 

Very clever lol

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

in addition to the Whistleblower laws being rewritten, i am hearing whispers that they have done the same thing with the FEC bylaws. Weintraub has rewritten the, 'Interpretive Rule Concerning Prohibited Activities Involving Foreign Nationals'. essentially, 'things of value' which are to include, 'information'. very vaguely written, without any precedent. look for this to become a thing in the days to come.

 

these ***** are such a joke.

 

Interpretive Rule Concerning Prohibited Activities Involving Foreign Nationals

 

@EllenLWeintraub

 

So...it was rewritten after the phone call?  That's a shame for the Dems.  As is the fact that calls to other leaders were also put on higher-level servers to prevent them being leaked.   Not to mention the fact that Velensky didn't feel like the aid was tied to him investigating Biden.  And that the aid had been withheld since February 28th.

 

There's just no there, there.

[Deranged Rhino]

27 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

So...it was rewritten after the phone call?  That's a shame for the Dems.  As is the fact that calls to other leaders were also put on higher-level servers to prevent them being leaked.   Not to mention the fact that Velensky didn't feel like the aid was tied to him investigating Biden.  And that the aid had been withheld since February 28th.

 

There's just no there, there.

 

 

 

Of all things I never expected in the past three years, it would be me saying that Peter f'ing Strzok was right all along. 

 

(It was always a coup)

[3rdnlng]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

...Let's see how this goes.

 

Those boys need blackface to pull thatshit off.

2 hours ago, Crayola64 said:

 

No its not.  Second hand knowledge does not equal hearsay.  It really is not a difficult concept to grasp.  

Hearsay is valuable to an investigator. I don't think anyone here disputes that. Hearsay doesn't amount toshit in court. Maybe you need one of those hearing amplifiers so you can hear what's going on way down there in the 3rd chair.

[Numark3]

12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Hearsay is valuable to an investigator. I don't think anyone here disputes that. Hearsay doesn't amount toshit in court. Maybe you need one of those hearing amplifiers so you can hear what's going on way down there in the 3rd chair.

 

There ya go buddy, the complaint is not what would go to court.  Hence it is not hearsay.  

 

 

And keep laughing at a big law attorney getting trial experience.  It really stings!  I should have picked a profession that doesn't pay hundreds of thousands as an entry level salary ?

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Crayola64 said:

 

There ya go buddy, the complaint is not what would go to court.  Hence it is not hearsay.  

 

 

And keep laughing at a big law attorney getting trial experience.  It really stings!  I should have picked a profession that doesn't pay hundreds of thousands as an entry level salary ?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Sounds like you said your name was Scooby. Can you come down here towards the center of the courtroom, you know where the wide aisle is so I can hear you?

 

BTW, how much did the Nigerian Prince want to give you that entry level job paying hundreds of thousands a year?

[Numark3]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

BTW, how much did the Nigerian Prince want to give you that entry level job paying hundreds of thousands a year?

 

Hey, if you wanted tips on a career change, I highly recommend it.  The life is goooooooood