Teddy KGB Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: You think prison guards are generally well paid at $15-$25/hour and dedicated to their craft? You are welcome to that opinion. Having a fair amount of experience with them, I’ll keep to mine as a general rule of thumb. Riiiiight. Because you make 40.00 an hour at full of shittt enterprises.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is that the latest Q breadcrumb? And you are kidding yourself if you don't think Trump, and a number of other powerful folks including Bill Clinton, aren't in deeper with Epstein's underage harem. No, it's what the evidence released tells me. The only facts about Trump/Epstein's connection are these: * They socialized together at Mar Largo where Epstein was a member, and at an NBC event in NYC. * Trump flew from FL to NYC on Epstein's smaller plane with Epstein and his brother, no one else aboard. * Epstein was banned from Mar Largo by Trump when he assaulted an underage girl at the club (early 2000s) * Per Epstein's personal slave, Trump never visited the island, never partook in flirting or sex The same is NOT said about Bill Clinton who traveled with Epstein multiple times on the big plane (each time with underage persons aboard), he went to the island at least 6 times that we know of (and on the island there was child porn images on display which Bill saw and kept coming back anyway), we know Epstein visited the Clinton White House numerous times, and that he helped form the Clinton Foundation. We also know he and Bill spent time traveling Africa together... One is not like the other. If Trump were scared of Epstein, he never would have arrested him. You are trying to force a conclusion you find palatable because you don't like Trump (which is your right, it's just not backed by evidence or logic). 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Hedge said: I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks). "The ME finds he was shot, stabbed, hanged, drowned, poisoned, had acid thrown at him, was dismembered, was crushed by a garbage truck, and was mauled to death by a leopard. Cause of death is ruled a suicide." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: "The ME finds he was shot, stabbed, hanged, drowned, poisoned, had acid thrown at him, was dismembered, was crushed by a garbage truck, and was mauled to death by a leopard. Cause of death is ruled a suicide." ...thought I read his bed sheets were actually paper, 24 lb if I remember correctly.....strange doings here.....VERY..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thought I read his bed sheets were actually paper, 24 lb if I remember correctly.....strange doings here.....VERY..... Suicide by paper cut. Duh. Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself. Everyone seems to be assuming hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Suicide by paper cut. Duh. Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself. Everyone seems to be assuming hanging. Correct -- no official cause of death was given, or has been that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Suicide by paper cut. Duh. Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself. Everyone seems to be assuming hanging. My brothers manage a federal prison. If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody), and he committed suicide, they think it likely that he packed his bedding into his throat to cut off his oxygen and suffocate himself. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Correct -- no official cause of death was given, or has been that I know of. ...and it will NEVER be revealed.......I believe he was Jewish and if I'm not mistaken, burial must take place 24 hours after death according to their faith.......not sure of the legalities that could prevent that in lieu of an autopsy in a criminal case............ Edited August 11, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: You think prison guards are generally well paid at $15-$25/hour ... Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour) Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour) Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour) Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thread -- starting in the middle: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour) Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour) Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour) Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers? His ass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: My brothers manage a federal prison. If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody), and he committed suicide, they think it likely that he packed his bedding into his throat to cut off his oxygen and suffocate himself. ...imagine if he has been CIA cloistered, how the left will explode?......Nadless will be in instant cardiac arrest...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: And you'll see in the documents that Maxwell was the one who connected Epstein to "powerful people" to whom he trafficked children. We have been talking about the possibility of Epstein being backed by an intel service of some kind -- Maxwell's father was Mossad. apologies if posted previously. however, interesting read... Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Riiiiight. Because you make 40.00 an hour at full of shittt enterprises.com Hey, he knows prison guards intimately. Many prison guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour) Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour) Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour) Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers? $85k in NYC is not a high wage And that's assuming the guards were involved in anything shady. Prisons are kind of like a Feudal System. The DoC acts as the Pop or Holy Roman Emperor, keeping the gangs inside the system and from attacking one another. But inside the yard, the gangs have their territories, leaders, code of justice, and power structure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, /dev/null said: $85k in NYC is not a high wage And that's assuming the guards were involved in anything shady. Prisons are kind of like a Feudal System. The DoC acts as the Pop or Holy Roman Emperor, keeping the gangs inside the system and from attacking one another. But inside the yard, the gangs have their territories, leaders, code of justice, and power structure No question. The issue is that the poster is flat-out lying and/or doesn't understand how a union shop works. No arguments from me that they're still underpaid and I wouldn't do it for $500K a year, so more power to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No, it's what the evidence released tells me. The only facts about Trump/Epstein's connection are these: * They socialized together at Mar Largo where Epstein was a member, and at an NBC event in NYC. * Trump flew from FL to NYC on Epstein's smaller plane with Epstein and his brother, no one else aboard. * Epstein was banned from Mar Largo by Trump when he assaulted an underage girl at the club (early 2000s) * Per Epstein's personal slave, Trump never visited the island, never partook in flirting or sex The same is NOT said about Bill Clinton who traveled with Epstein multiple times on the big plane (each time with underage persons aboard), he went to the island at least 6 times that we know of (and on the island there was child porn images on display which Bill saw and kept coming back anyway), we know Epstein visited the Clinton White House numerous times, and that he helped form the Clinton Foundation. We also know he and Bill spent time traveling Africa together... One is not like the other. If Trump were scared of Epstein, he never would have arrested him. You are trying to force a conclusion you find palatable because you don't like Trump (which is your right, it's just not backed by evidence or logic). The people you are arguing with here already KNOW this info....they don't care, and just want to troll you and sap your energy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour) Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour) Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour) Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers? I got mine from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Do you think those salaries in NYC actually counters my point? They don't make a lot of money. 39 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody), Of course you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Hedge said: I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks). It doesn't matter what they come out with. They could even release a video of him killing himself and it won't satisfy conspiracy theorists along with deeply partisan people. I saw this chart going around yesterday I found funny. Edited August 11, 2019 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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