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Prediction: Bills Will Keep ALL their RBs

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Going into training camp I've heard quite a bit about the Bills' crowded backfield and who will end up being cut or inactive.

Additionally, there's been much talk of the devaluing of the RB position as though it is not important any more.

 

One distinction that isn't getting made is that the RB position is being massively devalued monetarily (no teams want to pay or extend RBs) but the value on the football field is actually rising. This is true even as passing increases because of the way RBs are being used.

 

What's valuable now is not the highly paid "bell cow" but the versatile stable of cheap RBs that can create mismatches out of RB/FB heavy personnel groups.

 

Look at the Patriots. They MASSIVELY value running backs - they just don't pay them. If RBs weren't important Belichick wouldn't keep drafting them in the top 3 rounds

 

- Sony Michel $917K (1st round, 2018)

- James White $2.5M

- Rex Burkhead $1.75M

- Damien Harris - Rookie, 3rd rounder

- Brandon Bolden $1M

- James Develin $1M

 

They aren't wondering who is going to get cut in NE. At least 5 of those guys make the team, if not all six. And NE will use them in a multitude of different formations and situations. They are all unique weapons, whether it be running inside, outside, splitting wide, blocking, catching the ball, etc.

 

Which is why when it comes to the Bills, I see Daboll looking at BB and doing the same thing. Barring injury, Shady, Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and DiMarco are ALL MAKING THE TEAM. It's not a problem - it's a new strategy in the modern NFL.

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The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster.  They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs.

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2 minutes ago, Doc said:

The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster.  They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs.

 

Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role.

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5 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said:

Going into training camp I've heard quite a bit about the Bills' crowded backfield and who will end up being cut or inactive.

Additionally, there's been much talk of the devaluing of the RB position as though it is not important any more.

 

One distinction that isn't getting made is that the RB position is being massively devalued monetarily (no teams want to pay or extend RBs) but the value on the football field is actually rising. This is true even as passing increases because of the way RBs are being used.

 

What's valuable now is not the highly paid "bell cow" but the versatile stable of cheap RBs that can create mismatches out of RB/FB heavy personnel groups.

 

Look at the Patriots. They MASSIVELY value running backs - they just don't pay them. If RBs weren't important Belichick wouldn't keep drafting them in the top 3 rounds

 

- Sony Michel $917K (1st round, 2018)

- James White $2.5M

- Rex Burkhead $1.75M

- Damien Harris - Rookie, 3rd rounder

- Brandon Bolden $1M

- James Develin $1M

 

They aren't wondering who is going to get cut in NE. At least 5 of those guys make the team, if not all six. And NE will use them in a multitude of different formations and situations. They are all unique weapons, whether it be running inside, outside, splitting wide, blocking, catching the ball, etc.

 

Which is why when it comes to the Bills, I see Daboll looking at BB and doing the same thing. Barring injury, Shady, Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and DiMarco are ALL MAKING THE TEAM. It's not a problem - it's a new strategy in the modern NFL.

Doubt it...this means you only keep 4 pass catchers and Roberts.

P..S- Beane is going to add another WR once the surprise cuts start coming out in August.

I'm looking at Murphy losing out..I love him but not as a returner.

Go back ..look at the '18 preseason footage.He's a natural bull..you need a yard on 4th and one??? You call his number.imo

 

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5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role.

Did you watch him at BC? My buddy has season tickets and assures me that Sweeney will end up being the starting TE here. 

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8 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

 

I'm looking at Murphy losing out..I love him but not as a returner.

Go back ..look at the '18 preseason footage.He's a natural bull..you need a yard on 4th and one??? You call his number.imo

 

This is Gore’s role.  He is still the best at it.  

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Just now, FLFan said:

This is Gore’s role.  He is still the best at it.  

I'm not sold on that fact yet,FLFan.

He's another year older and isn't in Rochester on day one.

This is a rumour that I heard...he signed with the Bills because his son had plans to attend UB.Again..this is local word,the latest I have heard is his son is not on the Bulls squad.

Who knows..strange things happen in August.

Just sayin.

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Just now, Misterbluesky said:

I'm not sold on that fact yet,FLFan.

He's another year older and isn't in Rochester on day one.

This is a rumour that I heard...he signed with the Bills because his son had plans to attend UB.Again..this is local word,the latest I have heard is his son is not on the Bulls squad.

Who knows..strange things happen in August.

Just sayin.

Fair enough.  Let’s see how it plays out, but I would be surprised if Murphy rises to the upper level of this group, even if Gore is out.  

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24 minutes ago, Doc said:

The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster.  They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs.

 

...sounds about right....we got thinned out quickly with injuries to Murphy, Jones as well as Shady's occasional hammy...even the Ford kid got some PT......

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Wouldn’t it be nice to know in advance which position is going to be devastated by injury??? Seems to be the way it works.....

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Augie said:

Wouldn’t it be nice to know in advance which position is going to be devastated by injury??? Seems to be the way it works.....

Hey..we have a new carpet,that should help?

I still don't know why we don't go natural.

Green Bay,Pittsburgh,Cleveland,Washington,Chicago do it.

 

rockpile style..get 'em muddy.

Signed,

Joe DeLamielleure

 

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45 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Did you watch him at BC? My buddy has season tickets and assures me that Sweeney will end up being the starting TE here. 

 

I thought the scouting report was he is a blocking TE more than a receiver?

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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role.

Tommy Sweeney isnt exactly a FB. Could he replace Dimarcos special teams play?

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Not gonna happen. Might keep 4...and that'd be a stretch, and a wasted roster spot. Keep Gore throughout TC, then let him go. Keep 3 on active roster. And one stashed away. Thats how to maximize the roster IMHO

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Interesting to compare how Patriots get it done though.

How many WRs do they keep . and do they stash players on PS ?
 

The WRs vs RB vs TEs should be worth noting when it comes down to 53

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I think the key to this idea is what happens with DiMarco. Lee Smith is the guy who can double as a fullback and tight end, as he did a lot of it in Oakland the last couple of years. 

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2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

Don't think the OP realized how many RBs are on this roster.

 

I'm not talking about every guy on the 90-man roster. I'm saying Shady, Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and Dimarco will all make the team.

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Until we know Daboll's plans for the offense this season, it is tough to know how the final 53 will shake out.  There are always surprises and I am often surprised when I see good special teams players hit the street to retain a marginal depth player.  Most of the opinions that I have read here are plausible with what we know now.  We'll have to continue to watch what happens in camp and the preseason games.

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forgot guys like Murphy and Ford.

 

Would not be surprised to see 4-5 RBs though.

 

I do think Yeldon makes it as a pass catching 3rd down option.

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Prediction:  Bills Will Keep All Their RBs.  Plans to replace one with a Chick-fil-A fell through.  Not open on Sundays.

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4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role.

 

I think DiMarco is gone and we’ll keep Shady, Gore, Yeldon and Singletary.

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