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20 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

Complaint: Fired Texans GM Brian Gaine 'targeted' African American employees in series of firings

 
 
A.J. Perez-USA TODAY SPORTS
1 hr ago
 

Recently fired Houston Texans general manager Brian Gaine “targeted” African American employees in a series of firings during his tenure, a former Texans security coordinator alleged in a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.  

 

Jeff Pope, who was notified he would not be retained by the team May 8, made a series of allegations in a 4,500-word charge of discrimination complaint obtained by USA TODAY Sports early Thursday morning. Gaine was fired by the Texans on Friday with little insight into the move disclosed by the team. 

 

 

Attempts to reach Gaine were not immediately successful Thursday morning.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/complaint-fired-texans-gm-brian-gaine-targeted-african-american-employees-in-series-of-firings/ar-AACPiID?ocid=ientp

 

 

Wow...I'd heard that something went down and it wasn't performance-related, but that's a pretty heavy accusation.

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And that was not reason why he was let go:

Texans spokesperson Amy Palcic told The Houston Chronicle that Pope’s allegations of racial bias “was not a factor in the recent decision to relieve Brian Gaine from his job as general manager.” 

We have just been made aware of Mr. Pope’s claim,” Palcic said. “We do not comment on pending litigation. The Houston Texans do not tolerate personal or professional discrimination of any kind."

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2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

And that was not reason why he was let go:

Texans spokesperson Amy Palcic told The Houston Chronicle that Pope’s allegations of racial bias “was not a factor in the recent decision to relieve Brian Gaine from his job as general manager.” 

We have just been made aware of Mr. Pope’s claim,” Palcic said. “We do not comment on pending litigation. The Houston Texans do not tolerate personal or professional discrimination of any kind."

 

Yet also in the article, "I was going to handle this the way I handle most of my claims: quietly,” N. Lucy Chukwurah, Pope’s attorney, told The Houston Chronicle. “When the Texans terminated Mr. Gaine, that caught my attention. They terminated him a few days after they spoke with their counsel. I found that to be unusual."

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14 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

And that was not reason why he was let go:

Texans spokesperson Amy Palcic told The Houston Chronicle that Pope’s allegations of racial bias “was not a factor in the recent decision to relieve Brian Gaine from his job as general manager.” 

We have just been made aware of Mr. Pope’s claim,” Palcic said. “We do not comment on pending litigation. The Houston Texans do not tolerate personal or professional discrimination of any kind."

I’m not sure I believe that they just found out about it 

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The Texans didn't notice Gaines was firing all the black guys?

 

That FO is a complete disaster. 

 

But at least they got Bill O'Brien to smooth everything out going forward.

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On 6/8/2019 at 11:03 PM, transient said:

 

Serious question, did the RBs they drafted suck or did they just not effectively work them into the game plan? I’m working from memory here, but they always struck me as being willing to live and die by Marino’s arm. I don’t really remember them as a team that ever had a game plan that tried to establish the run. Contrast that with the balance the Bills had with Kelly under center (granted, with Thomas in the backfield). 

 

To further that point, I just looked on the Pro Football Reference site. Marino is 14th all time in average pass attempts per game, but he’s the only one of his era in the top 20 (unless you count Favre at 17 and/or Bledsoe at 12, since they overlapped the latter part of Marino’s career). The next from that era is Warren Moon at 24. Jim Kelly is all the way down at 45. 

From what I remember, Marino loved putting up big passing numbers and pretty much demanded it. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bills former WR coach 

 

From my own experience, it's tough to take what a fired employee says with complete confidence.  In today's society, everyone knows about discrimination and tend to hold onto certain under performing employees for longer than they should due to fears of litigation.  Everything is documented in today's world.  Precaution is taken way more seriously than just rash judgements.

 

What Phil said seems to make more sense than the fired employee's allegation.

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Fired employees usually make plenty of claims. Nobody ever wants to believe it's their own fault for getting fired. There's always something or someone to blame. How often do you see someone getting fired and saying "Yup, I deserved that. They made a good decision."

 

Of course, if the allegations are true, shame on Gaine. Tough to believe, though.

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

Fired employees usually make plenty of claims. Nobody ever wants to believe it's their own fault for getting fired. There's always something or someone to blame. How often do you see someone getting fired and saying "Yup, I deserved that. They made a good decision."

 

Of course, if the allegations are true, shame on Gaine. Tough to believe, though.

I feel really bad for him if it isn’t true. That’s the last thing you want out there.

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Ridiculous. Better hope they have solid evidence of this. Didn’t he replace Rick Smith? Makes me wonder how close Smith and Pope are. 

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Hope these allegations are false.  But as long as O'Brien is calling the shots in Houston they won't be a factor.  He thinks he's Belichick and he's far from it.

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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Hope these allegations are false.  But as long as O'Brien is calling the shots in Houston they won't be a factor.  He thinks he's Belichick and he's far from it.

I agree. I’ve been skeptical of Obrien’s abilities since he was at penn state 

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

Fired employees usually make plenty of claims. Nobody ever wants to believe it's their own fault for getting fired. There's always something or someone to blame. How often do you see someone getting fired and saying "Yup, I deserved that. They made a good decision."

 

Of course, if the allegations are true, shame on Gaine. Tough to believe, though.

Not saying you are wrong, but Gaine was terminated for a reason. Racial bias in the employment world would be a reason to fire him. The Texans denying it doesn't mean it isn't true.  They are just protecting themselves from a lawsuit. Gaine certainly could have been fired for another reason and the employee's complaint may be baseless.  But you can virtually guarantee it was a HR violation (my initial guess was harassment but discrimination fits the scenario) of some kind and not just performance based.

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14 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Not saying you are wrong, but Gaine was terminated for a reason. Racial bias in the employment world would be a reason to fire him. The Texans denying it doesn't mean it isn't true.  They are just protecting themselves from a lawsuit. Gaine certainly could have been fired for another reason and the employee's complaint may be baseless.  But you can virtually guarantee it was a HR violation (my initial guess was harassment but discrimination fits the scenario) of some kind and not just performance based.

Just lots of speculation. He could have been fired because they felt they had someone better. There is no reason to believe that it is an HR issue.

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Just lots of speculation. He could have been fired because they felt they had someone better. There is no reason to believe that it is an HR issue.

 

 

...something ain't passing the smell test here......Texans claim they had no knowledge of the EEOC firing....employer does get notification via certified mail.......pretty easy to validate their claim with the signed and dated RETURN RECEIPT postcard.......pretty hard to lie your way out of that I think......besides why not let an EEOC investigation play out before firing him without findings?......seems awfully convenient and "coincidental (COUGH)"......

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6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

From what I remember, Marino loved putting up big passing numbers and pretty much demanded it. 

 

Add he was a terrible on fakes and got his RBs destroyed.

It is what I remember most about watching him with almost every time he did a fake I knew it ahead of time.

 

He did do well in advertising showing he can act just not well on football field.

2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...something ain't passing the smell test here......Texans claim they had no knowledge of the EEOC firing....employer does get notification via certified mail.......pretty easy to validate their claim with the signed and dated RETURN RECEIPT postcard.......pretty hard to lie your way out of that I think......besides why not let an EEOC investigation play out before firing him without findings?......seems awfully convenient and "coincidental (COUGH)"......

 

Laywer said he was trying to work it thru system quietly so likely no certified mail sent.

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Maybe Gaine wanted different people in working. Performance work from those could of been bad. Lots of people in for GM gets rid of people. Who knows in private. Jeff Pope could be talking not true crap..  Speculation 

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Maybe Gaine wanted different people in working. Performance work from those could of been bad. Lots of people in for GM gets rid of people. Who knows in private. Jeff Pope could be talking not true crap..  Speculation 

What did you just say?

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11 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Maybe Gaine wanted different people in working. Performance work from those could of been bad. Lots of people in for GM gets rid of people. Who knows in private. Jeff Pope could be talking not true crap..  Speculation 

 

Couldn't manage even one coherent sentence?

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Maybe Gaine wanted different people in working. Performance work from those could of been bad. Lots of people in for GM gets rid of people. Who knows in private. Jeff Pope could be talking not true crap..  Speculation 

 

Just curious, do you happen to be an Anti-Vaxxer?

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5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

So basically the Texans decided they’d rather have no GM at all than continue to employ Gaine.

I think they fired him thinking they were getting Caserio, then they couldn’t get him (yet) and BOB refuses to work with anyone else. 

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On 6/15/2019 at 9:18 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Just curious, do you happen to be an Anti-Vaxxer?

 

I don't know what it means but I support whatever people do.

 

Question for is are you a tranny supporter? LOL

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On 6/14/2019 at 2:44 PM, MJS said:

Fired employees usually make plenty of claims. Nobody ever wants to believe it's their own fault for getting fired. There's always something or someone to blame. How often do you see someone getting fired and saying "Yup, I deserved that. They made a good decision."

 

Of course, if the allegations are true, shame on Gaine. Tough to believe, though.

Once when I was fired my first thought was "thank god"

 

Next was "Oh sh*t" 

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