707BillsFan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Gordio said: Gonzaga was a cute story actually well over two decades ago. & I get it, you got to start somewhere, but....they are a national power & have been for the past 15 years. I can't ever see UB getting to that point. Get out of the MAC would be a start. Find a way into one one of the High Major's; A10 or Big East and see where that takes them. They've already lost one of their commitments due to Oats leaving, another wavering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: Get out of the MAC would be a start. Find a way into one one of the High Major's; A10 or Big East and see where that takes them. They've already lost one of their commitments due to Oats leaving, another wavering. If you are suggesting that UB would have more success by moving out of the MAC and into A10 or Big East and would be as or more competitive - head slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: If you are suggesting that UB would have more success by moving out of the MAC and into A10 or Big East and would be as or more competitive - head slap. They can't join the A-10 or Big East, even if they drop football. Those conferences are all small private schools. UB is a major state university. It's pretty much AAC or nothing. Meanwhile the rats are jumping ship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 707BillsFan said: They've already lost one of their commitments due to Oats leaving, another wavering. That happens everywhere. It happened when Hurley left, and Nate was able to overcome it.... https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/sports/ct-abn-basketball-nate-navigato-st-0426-20150424-story.html https://www.ubbullrun.com/2015/4/24/8465005/buffalo-points-guard-shannon-evans-will-transfer-to-bobby-hurley-at As I said, Nate was able to overcome it.... https://big4talk.wordpress.com/2015/05/08/cj-massinburg-set-for-official-visit-to-buffalo/ Edited March 28, 2019 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Dre Allen a highly touted recruit has now asked for his release from UB. The Bulls lived the dream. Now they are just going back to being another mid major school like all the rest He is hardly a highly touted recruit He is a 2* JUCO player who is nationally unranked... they will live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: They can't join the A-10 or Big East, even if they drop football. Those conferences are all small private schools. UB is a major state university. It's pretty much AAC or nothing. UMass, Rhody, VCU and George Mason would beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, bbb said: UMass, Rhody, VCU and George Mason would beg to differ None are FBS football schools. We just built a indoor football facility. Do we turn it into an indoor flea market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 AAC is the spot that they need to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: None are FBS football schools. We just built a indoor football facility. Do we turn it into an indoor flea market? UMass is.............You might as well do that - because you seem to like to move the goal posts! ? 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: AAC is the spot that they need to get to. And, I think UMass will eventually go there, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bbb said: UMass is.............You might as well do that - because you seem to like to move the goal posts! ? And, I think UMass will eventually go there, too. UMass and UB would be reasonable replacements for Houston and UCF. I mean you really can't replace those school's media markets (they're huge) but UMass and Buffalo offer the largest markets that will be floating around, looking to move up. Edited March 29, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, bbb said: UMass is.............You might as well do that - because you seem to like to move the goal posts! ? And, I think UMass will eventually go there, too. UMass has been crap for a long time. Which is excellent.....I ***** hate them almost as much as Temple. Go Rhody! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: UMass and UB would be reasonable replacements for Houston and UCF. I mean you really can't replace those school's media markets (they're huge) but UMass and Buffalo offer the largest markets that will be floating around, looking to move up. Are Houston and UCF rumored to be moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 hey @PromoTheRobot, you need to get involved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: hey @PromoTheRobot, you need to get involved here. Yeaaaaaaah...my donation level and the Murchie's is very similar. Only 4-5 zeros difference. 6 hours ago, bbb said: Are Houston and UCF rumored to be moving? A while back there were rumblings that the next Big 12 expansion would target Houston for sure, and maybe UCF. Edited March 29, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 UB would get killed in AAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, noacls said: UB would get killed in AAC. Houston and UCF? Maybe. But who else? And UB beat Temple in Football last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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noacls Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Houston and UCF? Maybe. But who else? And UB beat Temple in Football last year. Memphis, SMU, Cincinnati,South Florida, Tulane. Basketball you can add Witchita State, Temple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, noacls said: Memphis, SMU, Cincinnati,South Florida, Tulane. Basketball you can add Witchita State, Temple I'm betting you've never seen UB play this year. They were a deep, deep team. They didn't win 34 games playing cupcakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm betting you've never seen UB play this year. They were a deep, deep team. They didn't win 34 games playing cupcakes. Wrong I watched them quite a bit.. I was talking more about football. However there is no way UB basketball is competing with top tier AAC basketball squads. Everytime they face length and athleticism it does not turn out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, noacls said: Wrong I watched them quite a bit.. I was talking more about football. However there is no way UB basketball is competing with top tier AAC basketball squads. Everytime they face length and athleticism it does not turn out well. I agree football was a bit of a paper tiger. But basketball was legit. Of course power conference teans won't risk playing good mid-majors. So it's hard to argue. But Buffalo got road wins at WVU and Syracuse and neutral site wins against San Francisco and Arizona State. That's a good resume. Edited March 30, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanCRNA Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 5:28 PM, 707BillsFan said: Believe what you want Skippy. Coaches haven't been fired yet. He could have held out for something better than....Alabama. What's the old adage...Location, Location, Location. Alabama doesn't even have one of those locations. Plus you''ll never get noticed because he'll always be overshadowed by the football program. Bad move on his part. Be willing to bet you've never been here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanCRNA Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 9:49 AM, LabattBlue said: There is one downside to choosing Alabama against most other power 5 conference schools. The students, fans, and most especially, the powerful alumni, are used to the football program being the best(or at the very least being in the playoffs)...every single year. Tough to compete with that. Making the tourney, and getting bounced in the first two rounds, or even the sweet 16, isn't going to cut it. It's actually just the opposite. Most folks down here don't even REALLY start paying attention to basketball until February. It's the filler between the end of CFB and the start of spring football. If Avery Johnson had consistently made the tourney, and certainly the sweet 16, he would still be the coach here. I see people talking about Bama not being a basketball school, and while that's true, it hasn't always been this bad. From 1981 to 1992, Bama head coach Wimp Sanderson took them to 10 NCAA tourneys and got to the sweet 16 SIX times. Those Alabama teams sent 11 players to the NBA, including Latrell Sprewell, Robert Horry, and Derrick McKey. If Oats has that level of success, we'll probably name the court after him... *Auburn making it to the Final Four today may have raised the stakes a bit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Anyone got rumors on next UB coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, noacls said: Anyone got rumors on next UB coach? Well definitely not UB assistant Brian Hodgson. It's been a pretty tight-lipped search so far. Just some rumors etc. Follow this thread for the latest: http://ubfan.com/bb/index.php?/topic/465-the-search-for-a-new-head-coach/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 We've become a great resting spot for upcoming two and done coaches. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: We've become a great resting spot for upcoming two and done coaches. Sad but true. To be accurate Oats put in 4 years, 6 is you count two years as an assistant. But point taken., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Wow, this is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Luke Murray, former Xavier and current Louisville assistant, draws funny man father Bill Murray on a regular basis. That was pretty cool. Unlike Tom Brady’s dad, he can probably survive a Buffalo hotel room. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Only a week late... Edited April 4, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Only a week late... He's been busy locking down his 'Bama players, especially Kira Lewis Jr. , recruit Trendon Watford, and poaching Ray Hawkins from U.B. . Looks like that process is done now... https://fanbuzz.com/college-basketball/ncaa-sec/nate-oats-bama-recruiting/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Lurker said: He's been busy locking down his 'Bama players, especially Kira Lewis Jr. , recruit Trendon Watford, and poaching Ray Hawkins from U.B. . Looks like that process is done now... https://fanbuzz.com/college-basketball/ncaa-sec/nate-oats-bama-recruiting/ Some folks on UBfan who know players and others close to the team say that Oats is reacting to the negative takes. This smacks of damage control. Note how he gets real specific about the date and time he "spoke to the players." Reports are most of the team have yet to hear from Oats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Only a week late... Didn't his wife have Stage 4 breast cancer? Any word on how she is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, bbb said: Didn't his wife have Stage 4 breast cancer? Any word on how she is doing? Not breast cancer. Double-hit lymphoma. She's in remission now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lurker said: He's been busy locking down his 'Bama players, especially Kira Lewis Jr. , recruit Trendon Watford, and poaching Ray Hawkins from U.B. . Looks like that process is done now... https://fanbuzz.com/college-basketball/ncaa-sec/nate-oats-bama-recruiting/ I don’t think Ray Hawkins was ever coming to UB woulda been tough to pull him from AZ state and Bama and Arkansas Edited April 4, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don’t think Ray Hawkins was ever coming to UB woulda been tough to ***** him from AZ state and Bama and Arkansas But he did say that we wanted to play for Nate and Brian. Maybe he's just saying that now that they're at Alabama. As far as I knew, Alabama was not one of his choices before Oats landed there. Edited April 4, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: But he did say that we wanted to play for Nate and Brian. Maybe he's just saying that now that they're at Alabama. Well I’m sure he would like to play for them. But he would have preferred it to be at a bigger school than UB it is tough to commit to a small conference school like UB when high majors are chasing you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well I’m sure he would like to play for them. But he would have preferred it to be at a bigger school than UB it is tough to commit to a small conference school like UB when high majors are chasing you Nate's a great recruiter, so who knows. Trendon Watford has an offer from Duke but seems to be leaning toward 'Bama after meeting with Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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