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4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

First.....I am not a Clinton fan who I also considered a BAD choice for a presidential cand

 

but

 

Why is it that when I watch this video my stomach turns when Trump is talking about "1 percent of the ppl bad" when HE IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING

 

Maybe the simple truth is that they are ALL corrupt......and I am looking for better.

Because it’s a complete load of horseshit. Trump cares about the Trump brand and the Trump brand only. Replace the names of everyone he says is bad with “Trump Inc” and it makes more sense. 

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13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

First.....I am not a Clinton fan who I also considered a BAD choice for a presidential cand

 

but

 

Why is it that when I watch this video my stomach turns when Trump is talking about "1 percent of the ppl bad" when HE IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING

 

Maybe the simple truth is that they are ALL corrupt......and I am looking for better.

 

We got it.    California is wearing off on you.   

 

Lot of messages to dodge 

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Just now, Teddy KGB said:

 

We got it.    California is wearing off on you.   

 

Lot of messages to dodge 

Well...I have lived in a lot of places in the world and I am pretty sure I would feel the same way if I was still in Guam

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Well...I have lived in a lot of places in the world and I am pretty sure I would feel the same way if I was still in Guam

 

Lucky for you, you got out before it tipped over.

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Oh I wont spend a lot of time in here.  Not versed enough to not get eaten lol.

 

But.....good discussion.

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The people who say that Trump should act Presidential are the ones who think Trump should take every punch in the face he gets and just smile and say and do nothing.

 

Those are the cries of people who don't know Trump and never even met him.

 

Trump doesn't take punches he gets without fighting back and that is EXACTLY why people voted for Trump.

 

The people who voted for Trump, want Trump, not a Presidential lap dog who will cow tow to his enemies

 

The minute Trump acts Presidential, he will lose his base, and in turn, lose the 2020 election. So, I am sure the left wants Trump to not be Trump to win in 2020, cause they won't beat him with their insane policies.

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4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Oh I wont spend a lot of time in here.  Not versed enough to not get eaten lol.

 

But.....good discussion.

 

:beer: I hope you consider sticking around. You're enough of an old timer around TSW to know most of the characters down here (and how they operate/know when not to take offense). Even though it can get truculent, there are also some really smart people with a wide array of experiences down here who do contribute to good/informative conversations... between the snarking of course. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

Speaking for myself, I'm the opposite, I don't care if Trump is the biggest douchbag on the planet, I'm a results person, and Trump has and is doing a lot of good for this country. Obama acted very presidential, spoke very elegantly and did nothing, or very few good things. As far Gabbert, I know little of her, but if she's part of the "socialist "crowd, and green deal bunch, she won't stand a chance

 

This. I don’t give a rats ass who twitters what.  I didn’t vote for Trump last time around, but I will next year.  He’s been far better than I expected.

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4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Oh I wont spend a lot of time in here.  Not versed enough to not get eaten lol.

 

But.....good discussion.

 

Good.  You're an idiot.

 

Was going to tell you earlier, but I held out hopes you'd get some good responses before I said hello.

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5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

No I would prefer a president that strengthens the country AND acts presidential.

 

And frankly I dont think that is too much to ask.

Okay, I have to ask... define "Acts Presidential" please... Is there some book out there written only POTUS know about that teach them this? Or is it because the media has said so? Which one of them wrote the book on it?

I'm just trying to understand why acting is some manner, not defined by anything except MAYBE past failed presidencies, could possibly be some kind of lesson? After all, what made the way any of the last 2 potus do that really made the world stand up and say, "now that man looks presidential"?

 

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5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

?????

 

Do you see who I am touting as who I would like to be the leader of our country....there is NOTHING about her that even insinuates that.

I agree.  I think she gets it.

 

I can almost guarantee that the white house Q and A's with the media would become non toxic in a hurry.   She might even get up on the podiam......

Hey John! Good to see you down here.

 

If I could clarify, I think lots of people felt wronged by buying into Obama's style over substance.  And they fear you're doing the same, which is why they want you to specifically say why she feels "real."

 

Lots of folks down here don't like subjectivity without at least specific reasons. We all like people at least partially subjectively, that's human nature.  It helps to articulate why.

 

Glad to see you here though.  I think you're an every man and a proud American (I mean that as a compliment).  And I think this country would be leagues improved if we could discuss ideas rationally and amicably from the ground up with folks who are just dipping their toe in the political minefield.

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

Okay, I have to ask... define "Acts Presidential" please... Is there some book out there written only POTUS know about that teach them this? Or is it because the media has said so? Which one of them wrote the book on it?

I'm just trying to understand why acting is some manner, not defined by anything except MAYBE past failed presidencies, could possibly be some kind of lesson? After all, what made the way any of the last 2 potus do that really made the world stand up and say, "now that man looks presidential"?

 

I would say there's a time for eloquence, calmness, and collectiveness as well as a time for:

 

 

My ideal candidate expresses both of these in equal measure as the individual situation requires.  Obama was too much the former, and lots of folks believe Trump is too far the latter.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm the best person to be president.

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2 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

This. I don’t give a rats ass who twitters what.  I didn’t vote for Trump last time around, but I will next year.  He’s been far better than I expected.

What has Trump done to earn this praise from you?

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1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said:

Hey John! Good to see you down here.

 

If I could clarify, I think lots of people felt wronged by buying into Obama's style over substance.  And they fear you're doing the same, which is why they want you to specifically say why she feels "real."

 

Lots of folks down here don't like subjectivity without at least specific reasons. We all like people at least partially subjectively, that's human nature.  It helps to articulate why.

 

Glad to see you here though.  I think you're an every man and a proud American (I mean that as a compliment).  And I think this country would be leagues improved if we could discuss ideas rationally and amicably from the ground up with folks who are just dipping their toe in the political minefield.

I would say there's a time for eloquence, calmness, and collectiveness as well as a time for:

 

 

My ideal candidate expresses both of these in equal measure as the individual situation requires.  Obama was too much the former, and lots of folks believe Trump is too far the latter.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm the best person to be president.

In her interviews she talks about how she left the VP of Democratz to support Bernie because she did not believe in what the Dems were doing.....and talks about the only way to really get things accomplished is get everyone to the table.

 

I find it very interesting about how an ex military can talk about getting out of military regime change when that is really what a huge portion of the military budget goes.....she says it does not work (and she is right by the way......these countries HATE us for our efforts) and that money could be spent on our OWN country.

 

Cant stand Tucker on Fox News I think he is a clown......but he had her on as a guest and was actually civil in the interview......which also leads to my believe that she can pull people of varied stances together to get things accomplished.

 

So I like her ideas and I like the way she carries herself......as I said I feel like the white house press conferences are a battlefield now and I envision this woman who would actually step to the podium to talk to the press at times and it NOT be a toxic environment.

 

I also understand the folks that talk about how the dems might keep her down because they are not on board with her agenda.....would love to see her run as a VP candidate with someone that actually has a chance.....

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25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I find it very interesting about how an ex military can talk about getting out of military regime change when that is really what a huge portion of the military budget goes.....she says it does not work (and she is right by the way......these countries HATE us for our efforts) and that money could be spent on our OWN country.

 

I don't find it that interesting or even surprising.  A LOT of veterans think war is dumb and total waste of time, money, and lives.  We've had Veterans like this throughout history.  The most decorated Marine in World War I, Smedley Butler, wrote a book about it called "War Is A Racket" that is as applicable today as it was then.  You can download it and read it here: https://scoutingweb.com/war-is-a-racket-pdf/ 

 

Also think of Ron Kovak and John Kerry (back in the 60s/70s).  My wife had a neighbor that was a bomber in World War II.  When asked what he did in the war he said he bombed women and children.  Like I said a LOT of veterans are anti-war.  Like me and you for example.

 

She is against these endless conquests BECAUSE she is a veteran and served as a medic in Iraq and has seen up close how ineffective and bad it is.

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3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I don't find it that interesting or even surprising.  A LOT of veterans think war is dumb and total waste of time, money, and lives.  We've had Veterans like this throughout history.  The most decorated Marine in World War I, Smedley Butler, wrote a book about it called "War Is A Racket" that is as applicable today as it was then.  You can download it and read it here: https://scoutingweb.com/war-is-a-racket-pdf/ 

 

Also think of Ron Kovak and John Kerry (back in the 60s/70s).  My wife had a neighbor that was a bomber in World War II.  When asked what he did in the war he said he bombed women and children.  Like I said a LOT of veterans are anti-war.  Like me and you for example.

 

She is against these endless conquests BECAUSE she is a veteran and served as a medic in Iraq and has seen up close how ineffective and bad it is.

I am very anti war......

 

WIll always carry the scars from it.   When I left the military I eventually worked my way into a job as a graduate student advisor here at one of the Southern California Universities......

 

Just today I had some Middle Eastern female potential applicant come in to see me.....and I am trying to do my job and I remember the constant worry of females dressed just like them possibly being strapped down with bombs when I was in the Middle East........I am trying to talk to them and it was so difficult but i made it through and they were happy when they left.

 

I love my country......I hate the politics

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12 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Are you able to provide any examples that prove this? Or is it that his way of doing things dont align with yours? There isn't one way to lead. IMO actions are more important than words (not to say words arent important).

 

Attacking a gold star family?

 

We can start there. 

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31 minutes ago, BigMcD said:

Trump stops paying off women and diverts the money? 

 

Go away, Canadian.

 

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5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Go away, Canadian.

 

Go stand on the corner! 

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