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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

We can forget the ridiculous bow.    What of Trumps asskissing to protect his business interests?  

 

What asskissing to protect what business interests?

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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

LOL   please   

 

now who's the ***** idiot?  

 

Don't be dense. There's been numerous idiotic allegations of all these supposed "business ventures" by lefties who can't even spell 'emoluments clause', much less know what it means. Specify which one(s) you're talking about.

 

What business interests was he protecting with the "asskissing" towards the Saudis?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

trump-accused-of-hypocritically-bowing-tI make 6 figures.   

 

Cool story. How much is that second mortgage running you ? You should move somewhere that doesn’t cost as much to live in. I hope the lady is bringing in some bacon so you can upgrade the Kia’s 

 

Enjoy those two weeks off cubicle boy ??

10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

You call people stoners yet you admit to smoking dope.   You really are a fraud Ryan. 

 

Like I said please put me on IGNORE.   

 

 

I don’t smoke dope grandpa.   I don’t think anyone’s smoking dope anymore ??.  Not my fault your a burnout who tried to steal 26corners threads but lack the ability to put two coherent sentences together.  

 

Just pipe down and tell us the president is fat 6,000 more times.      What about the guns bro ? 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Anyone else find it odd that an Australian leftist shoots up a mosque in NZ and somehow American conservatives and gun policy are blamed for it?

Almost there! Leftist parroting Trump's invasion rhetoric and pretty soon, a sh it for brains like you will say he was wearing a Hillary button, or whoever is leading in the polls for Dem nomination. Garbage 

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23 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Anyone else find it odd that an Australian leftist shoots up a mosque in NZ and somehow American conservatives and gun policy are blamed for it?

 

No, not at all.  

 

I found it odd that Chelsea Clinton was blamed for it...but only because she's usually responsible for naval operations, not ground.

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40 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

You call people stoners yet you admit to smoking dope.   You really are a fraud Ryan. 

 

 

 

All people who smoke pot are not stoners just as all people who drink are not alcoholics but  you knew that.  

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50 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Almost there! Leftist parroting Trump's invasion rhetoric and pretty soon, a sh it for brains like you will say he was wearing a Hillary button, or whoever is leading in the polls for Dem nomination. Garbage 

He idealized communist China. 

 

He's a leftist - just like you.

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43 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

He idealized communist China. 

 

He's a leftist - just like you.

 

old enough to remember family remembers in the US quoting Mao all the time?

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He's an idiot, just like you! 

 

 

Now, now HAHA Gator, there are many similarities between you and the killer. He knows so little about the USA that he couldn't even find us on a map. That makes him an idiot. See the similarities? 

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33 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

This is staggering.

 

Not really.  It's espousing a concept of racial guilt, which is a natural extension of identity politics...and not even all that much of a stretch from what's become "normal."

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6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

This is NORMAL for the "free press."

 

Not at all staggering.

 

It’s an opinion, Joe; albeit a bad one.  This doesn’t even touch on criminality.

 

Are you now prepared to argue that opinions you disagree with should be censored?

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7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

It’s an opinion, Joe; albeit a bad one.  This doesn’t even touch on criminality.

 

Are you now prepared to argue that opinions you disagree with should be censored?

 

I think we're well aware of each others' opinions on THAT matter. You seem to think it's ok that the media carries water for the Democratic party and the intelligence community, and I do not.

 

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3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I think we're well aware of each others' opinions on THAT matter. You seem to think it's ok that the media carries water for the Democratic party and the intelligence community, and I do not.

 

 

This is something different though.

 

This isn’t a “news piece” which is actually a fictional accounting designed to drive a narrative; which is where we have traditionally disagreed.

 

This is an opinion piece.

 

Are you now saying you wish to criminalize or censor opinion pieces you disagree with?

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1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

This is something different though.

 

This isn’t a “news piece” which is actually a fictional accounting designed to drive a narrative; which is where we have traditionally disagreed.

 

This is an opinion piece.

 

Are you now saying you wish to criminalize or censor opinion pieces you disagree with?

 

I don't really differentiate between "news" and "opinion" much anymore.

 

It's a pointless errand.

 

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I don't really differentiate between "news" and "opinion" much anymore.

 

It's a pointless errand.

 

 

So, to be clear, you not only want to criminalize misreporting; but also simply the holding of opinions you deem to be “improper”.

 

Do I have you correctly here?  You’re advocating the implementation of thought crime?

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

So, to be clear, you not only want to criminalize misreporting; but also simply the holding of opinions you deem to be “improper”.

 

Do I have you correctly here?  You’re advocating the implementation of thought crime?

 

I believe that "journalistic" institutions should be held to a standard of, at a bare minimum, honesty.

 

I believe that any institution that is proven to be otherwise should have their access to the government revoked.

 

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4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I believe that "journalistic" institutions should be held to a standard of, at a bare minimum, honesty.

 

I believe that any institution that is proven to be otherwise should have their access to the government revoked.

 

 

Who determines “honesty”?  The Federal Ministry of Truth?  Is there due process?  Can you appeal?  What would this Ministry of Truth look like under the Obama Administration?

 

But moving on, we aren’t talking about “news” right now.  We’re talking about an OpEd published by Slate in which the author states her opinion.  Should this be censored?

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1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Who determines “honesty”?  The Federal Ministry of Truth?  Is there due process?  Can you appeal?  What would this Ministry of Truth look like under the Obama Administration?

 

But moving on, we aren’t talking about “news” right now.  We’re talking about an OpEd published by Slate in which the author states her opinion.  Should this be censored?

 

In an ideal world? I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

 

To be clear: most opinions *I* hold would be censored already, anyway. So it's not like *I* would experience any loss as such.

 

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

In an ideal world? I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

 

To be clear: most opinions *I* hold would be censored already, anyway. So it's not like *I* would experience any loss as such.

 

 

Then you have no ground to argue against the censorship of conservatives and conservative viewpoints by Big Tech.  You support the weapon, and have thereby legitimized it.  You’re honestly not much different than Mao, or Stalin, or Castro in your views.

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Then you have no ground to argue against the censorship of conservatives and conservative viewpoints by Big Tech.  You support the weapon, and have thereby legitimized it.  You’re honestly not much different than Mao, or Stalin, or Castro in your views.

 

That's exactly my complaint. Conservative voices are *ALREADY* shut out. Why shouldn't we want the same of progressive voices?

 

There's two remedies.

 

1) Allow us in. Unlikely to happen

2) Silence them.

 

Agree with that basic premise?

 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

That's exactly my complaint. Conservative voices are *ALREADY* shut out. Why shouldn't we want the same of progressive voices?

 

There's two remedies.

 

1) Allow us in. Unlikely to happen

2) Silence them.

 

Agree with that basic premise?

 

 

3) Shoot at both groups of tyrannical autocrats when the inevitable revolution comes.

 

Joe, I’m not willing to live in a world that believes oppression, real oppression, is a legitimate function of government.

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7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

3) Shoot at both groups of tyrannical autocrats when the inevitable revolution comes.

 

Joe, I’m not willing to live in a world that believes oppression, real oppression, is a legitimate function of government.

I'm trying to understand what you're saying here.  Are you saying it's not real oppression when it's oppressing conservative viewpoints but it is when it's oppressing liberal view points? 

Just trying to follow your logic given the conversation you're having with Joe. 

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5 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

I'm trying to understand what you're saying here.  Are you saying it's not real oppression when it's oppressing conservative viewpoints but it is when it's oppressing liberal view points? 

 

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What?

 

That’s not what I’m saying at all.  You’re clearly unfamiliar with this several year long discussion between Joe and myself; and of my posting history. (There are nearly 20,000 of them advocating for classical liberalism)

 

My argument is, and has always been, that the Freedom of Speech and of the Press is paramount, and that the suppression of speech of any kind, especially political speech, is the antithesis of a free society; and that I will not draw distinctions between individuals advocating for fascism.

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8 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

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What?

 

That’s not what I’m saying at all.  You’re clearly unfamiliar with this several year long discussion between Joe and myself; and of my posting history. (There are nearly 20,000 of them advocating for classical liberalism)

 

My argument is, and has always been, that the Freedom of Speech and of the Press is paramount, and that the suppression of speech of any kind, especially political speech, is the antithesis of a free society; and that I will not draw distinctions between individuals advocating for fascism.

That's why I was clarifying.  We're on the same wavelength on this one.  I am a free speech absolutist, along the lines of, I may not believe in what you're saying but will fight to the death for your right to say it.  Let all ideas out into the market place of ideas and the good ones will rise the bad ones will go to the wayside.  That's how I see it too.  Joe is right though, the censure is happening from the left, though I do not agree that we should silence them, we should just not allow the censure to happen anywhere.  I think that is what he was trying to indicate on his A) and B) choices above.  I don't agree with him that all is lost though.  It does not matter where you land on the political spectrum, everyone should fight for free speech.  The problem is, people on the left seem to think they are winning the battle of ideas and are trying to censor others, but they are short sighted.  One day, it will come back to bite them in the form of censorship of their ideas if they're not careful (sadly).  

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43 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

I'm trying to understand what you're saying here.  Are you saying it's not real oppression when it's oppressing conservative viewpoints but it is when it's oppressing liberal view points? 

Just trying to follow your logic given the conversation you're having with Joe. 

 

looked that way to me as well....

 

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On 3/15/2019 at 7:54 PM, The_Dude said:

 

Well I wrote this driving so I’m not looking at my phone. Gotta keep eyes on the road. But it’s imprtanylt for you to know you’re a douche. Your points are all *****. 

Hard to believe a man with an undergrad degree and a library could think that anyone would believe this. You ***** up some grammar, we all do it, admit it. 

Without touching the content of your views or anyone else's, anyone as sure of themselves as you has nothing of value to give. I've never learned a thing from somebody who tries as hard as you do to project intellectual depth. 

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38 minutes ago, arcane said:

Hard to believe a man with an undergrad degree and a library could think that anyone would believe this. You ***** up some grammar, we all do it, admit it. 

Without touching the content of your views or anyone else's, anyone as sure of themselves as you has nothing of value to give. I've never learned a thing from somebody who tries as hard as you do to project intellectual depth. 

 

He's been banned.

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

  

He's been banned.

I'm now reading a few pages back into the forum and have a better idea of his history. 

The guy is a faker who isn't aware enough to realize he's faking. 

 

I don't even have anything to offer on the nature of his views or anyone else's. Probably shouldn't have said anything since that's the case, but I couldn't help it. 

 

 

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Just now, arcane said:

I'm now reading a few pages back into the forum and have a better idea of his history. 

The guy is a faker who isn't aware enough to realize he's faking. 

 

I don't even have anything to offer on the nature of his views or anyone else's. Probably shouldn't have said anything since that's the case, but I couldn't help it. 

 

And that's more than fair.

 

Given that I hadn't seen your handle here before, I thought I'd alert you so you didn't start an argument with someone who isn't here.

 

Cheers.

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1 hour ago, arcane said:

 

 

I don't even have anything to offer on the nature of his views or anyone else's. Probably shouldn't have said anything since that's the case, but I couldn't help it. 

 

 

 

we fully understand.

 

 

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