Stank_Nasty Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: Scoring "21 points, at least, every game" implies that they score more than that other times. Therefore, the average is not 21, it has to be higher. If you have an offense that scores 21 as a minimum during the season, it's pretty darn good and likely averages closer to 30 than 21. 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Why are people ignoring the 'at least' part. He's saying 21 is the least you can score in a game and have a chance to win meaning he wants to score more. right.... it seems there are some people that are having a hard time seeing what he actually said. he's not talking about averaging 21 a game. he's talking about getting 21 at the very least each game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: right.... it seems there are some people that are having a hard time seeing what he actually said. he's not talking about averaging 21 a game. he's talking about getting 21 at the very least each game. I think you're right that some people assumed he meant an average. However, I would still be concerned that his goal is to hit 21 points per game. Yes, that would mean an average over 21. Except the thing is, hitting at least 21 is still a pretty low bar. Someone else already mentioned that we would have only won one more game if we hit that every game. Would have still missed the playoffs. The point is, he needs to set higher expectations for his team and himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 You dont draft a QB like Josh Allen if you think you need to be run ball dominant and eek out 3 point wins Josh Allen is a thrower of the ball He just needs weapons 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, eball said: From the combine: “I know my background was defense, but I’m not a defensive coach who wants to win 9-7 every week,” he said. “I don’t think that’s a healthy way to become a legitimate contender and sustain success. We want to be able to score 21 points, at least, every game. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you’re not building your roster and your team to give yourself a legitimate chance to score 21 points. We used to set goals like holding a team under 17 (per game). How many teams do that anymore? Maybe one team per year. You have to be able to score points in this league.” This should put to rest any of the comments I've read on this board that McD doesn't "understand" today's NFL or doesn't get it. Hopefully, he is starting to get it. I mean, it took him two years to realize that Peterout was a complete disaster, and it took him his entire NFL career to realize in the middle of last season that "speed" is actually good for an offense. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, eball said: From the combine: “I know my background was defense, but I’m not a defensive coach who wants to win 9-7 every week,” he said. “I don’t think that’s a healthy way to become a legitimate contender and sustain success. We want to be able to score 21 points, at least, every game. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you’re not building your roster and your team to give yourself a legitimate chance to score 21 points. We used to set goals like holding a team under 17 (per game). How many teams do that anymore? Maybe one team per year. You have to be able to score points in this league.” This should put to rest any of the comments I've read on this board that McD doesn't "understand" today's NFL or doesn't get it. So McDermott wants to win games 21-17? I mean its still buzz-word bingo with him in every press conference. Its still - Continuity, Toughness, Hard Work, Smart, Culture, Process, Cam Newton, Panthers always seem to trickle into every Press Conference he does. I still think he wants to win with Lunch Pail guys, and that doesn't necessarily include top flight talent. His description of a WR sounds like a possession guy. We'll see, but he has not strayed from ball control, running, toughness, field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, eball said: From the combine: “I know my background was defense, but I’m not a defensive coach who wants to win 9-7 every week,” he said. “I don’t think that’s a healthy way to become a legitimate contender and sustain success. We want to be able to score 21 points, at least, every game. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you’re not building your roster and your team to give yourself a legitimate chance to score 21 points. We used to set goals like holding a team under 17 (per game). How many teams do that anymore? Maybe one team per year. You have to be able to score points in this league.” This should put to rest any of the comments I've read on this board that McD doesn't "understand" today's NFL or doesn't get it. Funny thing is if anyone just watches the games, this was already very very obvious. There is some weird myth around here that McD is conservative and wants to ground and pound. Literally never been any truth to that and the evidence is left all over the field every Sunday. Some people saw what McD had to do when Allen was hurt and DA and NP were stinking the place up and somehow projected that into McD's overall philosophy. Never understood that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Funny thing is if anyone just watches the games, this was already very very obvious. There is some weird myth around here that McD is conservative and wants to ground and pound. Literally never been any truth to that and the evidence is left all over the field every Sunday. Some people saw what McD had to do when Allen was hurt and DA and NP were stinking the place up and somehow projected that into McD's overall philosophy. Never understood that. How about he went into the season with no WR, no speed at WR, no help for Allen at QB, and virtually no quality OL starters or depth? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: How about he went into the season with no WR, no speed at WR, no help for Allen at QB, and virtually no quality OL starters or depth? And no RB under 30 years old. And (arguably) no TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, H2o said: Dear God, are we really "concerned" because McDermott said 21 because didn't check the stat books before his interview and say a higher number? Are you REALLY concerned by this? He is saying he knows the offense needs to be better. Simple. McD was trying to show he's not a blinkered D guy but that he understands and is committed to offense. Regrettably, using 21 points as his marker suggests he really isn't deeply into the nuts and bolts of the offense as he claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, MPT said: I think you're right that some people assumed he meant an average. However, I would still be concerned that his goal is to hit 21 points per game. Yes, that would mean an average over 21. Except the thing is, hitting at least 21 is still a pretty low bar. Someone else already mentioned that we would have only won one more game if we hit that every game. Would have still missed the playoffs. The point is, he needs to set higher expectations for his team and himself. and there you go talking about average per game. why reference somebodies stat about how they plugged in JUST 21 into each game when that has nothing to do with what MCD said? when somebody says they wanna score a bare minimum of 21 in every game, just going and inserting 21(and nothing more than that) into every game and seeing how it works out is dumb..... becuz the coach referenced it as a minimum. whats so hard about this? Edited February 28, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Not to pick nits but the OPs quote is not the exact quote and he doesn’t say “at least 21 points”. He straight up says week in and week out you need to score 21 points. It’s in the video 2:12 https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-5-takeaways-from-buffalo-bills-hc-sean-mcdermott-at-the-nfl-combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Not to pick nits but the OPs quote is not the exact quote and he doesn’t say “at least 21 points”. He straight up says week in and week out you need to score 21 points. It’s in the video 2:12 https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-5-takeaways-from-buffalo-bills-hc-sean-mcdermott-at-the-nfl-combine well **** ! ….. this changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Just got ***** and giggles.. If they scored 21 points every game last season they would of won one more game.. Thats not really accurate though saying "won one more game" thing...you realize had our offense not been completely inept through injuries part of the season, we could have held the ball longer, scored more points, and also held the opponent to LESS points. So there isnt really any accuracy to just saying we only win one more game had we scored 21 points or more each game. 7 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Not to pick nits but the OPs quote is not the exact quote and he doesn’t say “at least 21 points”. He straight up says week in and week out you need to score 21 points. It’s in the video 2:12 https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-5-takeaways-from-buffalo-bills-hc-sean-mcdermott-at-the-nfl-combine Lets not do the TSW thing here though and over emphasize and over analyze this statement as if he wants to build a 21 point offense. I mean he isnt going to come out and say we need to average 30. He is clearly emphasizing the importance of scoring, its not like he has 21 points tattooed on his chest lol. Edited February 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 His actual quote was “you have to be a threat to score 21 points a game”. That amounts to an average at best scoring team. Hooray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Thats not really accurate though saying "won one more game" thing...you realize had our offense not been completely inept through injuries part of the season, we could have held the ball longer, scored more points, and also held the opponent to LESS points. So there isnt really any accuracy to just saying we only win one more game had we scored 21 points or more each game. Lets not do the TSW thing here though and over emphasize and over analyze this statement as if he wants to build a 21 point offense. I mean he isnt going to come out and say we need to average 30. He is clearly emphasizing the importance of scoring, its not like he has 21 points tattooed on his chest lol. I’m not trying to over analyze and I appreciate he realizes scoring is important, as obvious as a statement that is.... but people are jumping on that he said at least. He didn’t say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: His actual quote was “you have to be a threat to score 21 points a game”. That amounts to an average at best scoring team. Hooray That's not even scoring 21 a game, that's a "threat to score 21." That's scoring 14 and one overthrow on an open receiver. Low bar indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: That's not even scoring 21 a game, that's a "threat to score 21." That's scoring 14 and one overthrow on an open receiver. Low bar indeed. It essentially amounts to a FG more than we what produced on a per game basis last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: It essentially amounts to a FG more than we what produced on a per game basis last year. A threat to make that FG, with our one-legged kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I’m not trying to over analyze and I appreciate he realizes scoring is important, as obvious as a statement that is.... but people are jumping on that he said at least. He didn’t say that. Gotcha. To be fair though, does he really have to say "at least"? I mean does anyone really think the target is to be right at 21? He spent the whole time talking about how important scoring is, so just think people are hanging up too much on the 21 and whether or not he said "at least". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Gotcha. To be fair though, does he really have to say "at least"? I mean does anyone really think the target is to be right at 21? He spent the whole time talking about how important scoring is, so just think people are hanging up too much on the 21 and whether or not he said "at least". There have been concerns over McD’s ability to produce a good offense given that his background is all defense. I’m not a HC and I don’t spend 16 hours a day analyzing and studying the game but even I know that when talking about putting up points, 21 per game is just not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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