Who's your sleeper WR draft choice?

[N.Y. Orangeman]

Greg Dortch, WR, WF

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 Campbell is more of a hybrid offensive weapon than a pure WR but his combine workout is going to be appointment viewing.

 

i posted this in the fall on the CFB board... good read on his nfl skill set. Could he most effective used in a Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara role. Also Tyreek hill comparisons. 

 

 

 

Sign me up for that. 800 rush and 800 receiving. Done. All day. 

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Sign me up for that. 800 rush and 800 receiving. Done. All day. 

A lot of his receiving yards were of the horizontal pass/jet sweep/ “get him in space”/YAC variety. That can be very effective in the nfl, but I personally think the Bills will try to draft more a pure WR at the point where Campbell is going to be off the board. He was a RB in HS and they made him into an Hback. He did improve his hands this past season and downfield catching but hard to say if that had more to do with Haskins being so accurate of a passer. He’s a guy that a team who already has an established WR1 will take to upgrade their arsenal, I wish but don’t think the Bills are that team unless they secure someone else before the draft. 

 

Edited February 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[LSHMEAB]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

A lot of his receiving yards were of the horizontal pass/jet sweep/ “get him in space”/YAC variety. That can be very effective in the nfl, but I personally think the Bills will try to draft more a pure WR at the point where Campbell is going to be off the board. He’s a guy that a team who already has an established WR1 will take to upgrade their arsenal, I wish but don’t think the Bills are that team unless they secure someone else before the draft. 

Yeah. I don't think we have the luxury of drafting an upgraded version of McKittrick. Campbell is a much better prospect than Isaac, but I agree with your overall sentiment. Although if they have him rated super high and he's still on the board where they see it as tremendous value, you can't dismiss it entirely.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yeah. I don't think we have the luxury of drafting an upgraded version of McKittrick. Campbell is a much better prospect than Isaac, but I agree with your overall sentiment. Although if they have him rated super high and he's still on the board where they see it as tremendous value, you can't dismiss it entirely.

I had that same thought. Say they get an extra second (or third? Not sure where he will go but i expect high) in a trade and he’s there.... tough to pass up

Edited February 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...unfortunately I don't get to see college ball because of work schedule......so can anybody add to their sleeper pick as to where?........do we have to trade up or trade down to land your sleeper?....thank you............

[RocCityRoller]

15 hours ago, CGBills121 said:

If we aren't taking DK Metcalf at 9 I like N'Keal Harry or Kelvin Harmon.  Might have to trade back into the 1st round.  If we land a OT and WR in 1st round id be pumped.

 

I don't like Metcalf at all. But I like N'Keal Harry and Harmon so thumbs up.

[LABILLBACKER]

15 hours ago, thunderingsquid said:

JJ Arcega Whiteside

Include me on the 4th round JJAW bandwagon.  Saw this "jump ball" kid play a lot in the pac12 and he will win 75% of 50/50 balls.

[WideNine]

12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...unfortunately I don't get to see college ball because of work schedule......so can anybody add to their sleeper pick as to where?........do we have to trade up or trade down to land your sleeper?....thank you............

 

Not an exact science.

 

I take a very broad view of sleeper pick, but basically someone my team picks up that I think should have gone a couple rounds earlier, or is not even mocked to go in the draft, or actually goes undrafted.

 

Off or under the radar prospects.

 

Best if no one picks them up and your team can grab them as an undrafted free agent.

 

When you look at the UFAs the Bills have picked up, who have not only started, but excelled...they are doing their homework; although last year I think Daboll gave them a Bama cheat sheet.

[RocCityRoller]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 Campbell is more of a hybrid offensive weapon than a pure WR but his combine workout is going to be appointment viewing.

 

i posted this in the fall on the CFB board... good read on his nfl skill set. Could he most effective used in a Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara role. Also Tyreek hill comparisons. 

 

 

I'd take any of the above comparisons, figure out how to use him

Edited February 9, 2019 by RocCityRoller

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, WideNine said:

 

Not an exact science.

 

I take a very broad view of sleeper pick, but basically someone my team picks up that I think should have gone a couple rounds earlier, or is not even mocked to go in the draft, or actually goes undrafted.

 

Off or under the radar prospects.

 

Best if no one picks them up and your team can grab them as an undrafted free agent.

 

When you look at the UFAs the Bills have picked up, who have not only started, but excelled...they are doing their homework; although last year I think Daboll gave them a Bama cheat sheet.

 

....much appreciated....didn't know if folks chose their sleeper and also forecasted where.....

[without a drought]

Anthony Ratliff-Williams, North Carolina
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205
 

or

 

James Gardner,  Miami of Ohio
Height: 6-4. Weight: 216

Both late round to udfa's

 

[NewEra]

15 hours ago, CGBills121 said:

If we aren't taking DK Metcalf at 9 I like N'Keal Harry or Kelvin Harmon.  Might have to trade back into the 1st round.  If we land a OT and WR in 1st round id be pumped.

Sleeper wr

[LABILLBACKER]

15 hours ago, thunderingsquid said:

JJ Arcega Whiteside

Include me on the 4th round JJAW bandwagon.  Saw this "jump ball" kid play a lot in the pac12 and he will win 75% of 50/50 balls. Hollywood or DK would be my pick @ 15. Isabella or JJAW would be my 3rd-4th round pick.

[NewEra]

Anyone with great hands that can catch the ball when it’s thrown to them, no matter how hard it’s thrown 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

8 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

I'd take any of the above comparisons, figure out how to use him

 

...well at least these projections have "narrowed" him down to going between rounds 1 & 5........

 

On the mock draft subject, Draft Tek didn’t have the Ohio State receiver coming off the board until the fifth round at No. 146 to the Minnesota Vikings.

 

from Walter Football:

Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.35.
Projected Round (2019): 1-2.

 

Edited February 9, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[RocCityRoller]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...well at least these projections have "narrowed" him down to going between rounds 1 & 5........

 

On the mock draft subject, Draft Tek didn’t have the Ohio State receiver coming off the board until the fifth round at No. 146 to the Minnesota Vikings.

 

from Walter Football:

Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.35.
Projected Round (2019): 1-2.

 

that would qualify as a sleeper then!

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

that would qualify as a sleeper then!

 

 

....got it....so he expected to go in the 1st and dozed in the Green Room until the 3rd...."sound sleeper"........

[whatdrought]

I like Brady from Marshall, and the other kid from Ole Miss is intriguing. Sometimes those guys buried on the depth chart in college can make a career when given a chance.

 

 

Emmanuel Hall from Missouri is another one. Super fast and used to chasing deep balls from Drew Lock. I would love to get one big reciever, one solid TE, and a speed guy. It’d be fun to see the defense try to protect against two burners while also spying the QB.

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

I'd take any of the above comparisons, figure out how to use him

That is certainly valid 

 

he’s a great story. Kid from Akron, played at Lebron’s HS. Enrolled at osu at 16 years old and played 5 years. 

Edited February 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Misterbluesky]

14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Parris will barely make it to the 2nd round

I see Walter has him at late 2...highest I've seen so far.Regardless,I would love to see him in our colors since he vastly improves two positions.

53 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...well at least these projections have "narrowed" him down to going between rounds 1 & 5........

 

On the mock draft subject, Draft Tek didn’t have the Ohio State receiver coming off the board until the fifth round at No. 146 to the Minnesota Vikings.

 

from Walter Football:

Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.35.
Projected Round (2019): 1-2.

 

He wasn't ranked that high a month ago...goes to show us how much film is being watched now.

[CookieG]

If its a late round sleeper you're talking about...Cody Thompson, Toledo.

 

His first 3 years he was averaging about 20 ypc and had over 1200 yards his junior year. His senior year, he had over 500 yards before he he was hurt in game 5. His senior numbers are down, but their offense didn't look as good as its been.

 

He gets separation deep, and contrary to what I read on Draftnetwork, I think his ball skills are good. He catches with his hands and brings it into his body in a quick fluid motion. He might not be in Hakeem Butler's league as far as the acrobatic catch, but he seems to make contested catches and one handed catches. 

 

He gets lots of YAC because he breaks tackles after the catch effortlessly. He seems to know which way he's going to go while the ball is in the air. He'll be a COmbine invite and I'll be curious to know what his numbers are.

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

I see Walter has him at late 2...highest I've seen so far.Regardless,I would love to see him in our colors since he vastly improves two positions.

He wasn't ranked that high a month ago...goes to show us how much film is being watched now.

 

 

..gets to be an interesting dichotomy.......guess I will no longer believe the draft or FA is an exact science (COUGH).....

Edited February 9, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

..gets to be an interesting dichotomy.......guess I will no loner believe the draft or FA is an exact science (COUGH).....

I stay with the train of thought...you are as good as your scouting staff is.

[RocCityRoller]

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....got it....so he expected to go in the 1st and dozed in the Green Room until the 3rd...."sound sleeper"........

 

a guy with a range from round 1-5 is tough to call.

 

This isn't Aaron Rogers or Thurman Thomas

 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Since marquise brown isn't considered much of a sleeper, I'm a big fan of Cody Thompson of Toledo, looks to be one of those do it all types of players. 

 

[YoloinOhio]

47 minutes ago, CookieG said:

If its a late round sleeper you're talking about...Cody Thompson, Toledo.

 

His first 3 years he was averaging about 20 ypc and had over 1200 yards his junior year. His senior year, he had over 500 yards before he he was hurt in game 5. His senior numbers are down, but their offense didn't look as good as its been.

 

He gets separation deep, and contrary to what I read on Draftnetwork, I think his ball skills are good. He catches with his hands and brings it into his body in a quick fluid motion. He might not be in Hakeem Butler's league as far as the acrobatic catch, but he seems to make contested catches and one handed catches. 

 

He gets lots of YAC because he breaks tackles after the catch effortlessly. He seems to know which way he's going to go while the ball is in the air. He'll be a COmbine invite and I'll be curious to know what his numbers are.

 

 

 

I know his uncle .., great choice. He’s a prospect.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

I stay with the train of thought...you are as good as your scouting staff is.

 

...to his credit, McBeane has assembled his "Gang of 17" staff, made up mostly of former NFL VP's of Player Personnel or Directors of Player Personnel level....all on Pegula's nickel...I'd bet the scout staff plus McBeane is $5+ mil salary...and IMO, fair to say they did do their homework....only one gone is Proehl....add in UDFA's Wallace and Foster for good measure...not too bad for the 1st year together......next up is 2019 with 10 picks and $$$ FA dollars......stay tuned....

 

Round 4, Pick 21 (No, 121 overall): Taron Johnson, CB, Weber State

Round 5, Pick 17 (No. 154 overall) [via Baltimore]: Siran Neal, CB, Jacksonville State

Round 5, Pick 29 (No. 166 overall): Wyatt Teller, G, Virginia Tech

Round 6, Pick 13 (No. 187 overall): Ray-Ray McCloud, WR, Clemson

Round 7, Pick 37 (No. 255 overall): Austin Proehl, WR, North Carolina

[CEN-CAL17]

18 hours ago, WideNine said:

 

I thought that kid looked pretty good on the game clips I watched - talent is there.

 

Had that domestic charge with the girlfriend though...and that may keep him off some boards

Kid was one of the top WR prospects in the country coming out of high school.

 

Put up huge numbers this year. 96 receptions, like 1400 yards and 14 TDs. 

 

2 of those games were against SEC opponents where he had like 24 receptions 225 yards and 2 TDs.

 

Id take him in the 3rd. I think after the combine, interviews and prodays he’ll rebound. But ultimately I think he’s got 1st round talent for sure.

[WideNine]

20 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

Kid was one of the top WR prospects in the country coming out of high school.

 

Put up huge numbers this year. 96 receptions, like 1400 yards and 14 TDs. 

 

2 of those games were against SEC opponents where he had like 24 receptions 225 yards and 2 TDs.

 

Id take him in the 3rd. I think after the combine, interviews and prodays he’ll rebound. But ultimately I think he’s got 1st round talent for sure.

 

The kid can ball, when I first looked at this class of WR's he caught my eye and I said this about Williams

 

"Some others:

Preston Williams - hard to tell what you have with that Colorado offense, but the kid good size, ran good routes, used outside, inside, and on sweeps. He gets behind defenses, catches with his hands and has pretty tough RAC."

 

 

[CEN-CAL17]

25 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

The kid can ball, when I first looked at this class of WR's he caught my eye and I said this about Williams

 

"Some others:

Preston Williams - hard to tell what you have with that Colorado offense, but the kid good size, ran good routes, used outside, inside, and on sweeps. He gets behind defenses, catches with his hands and has pretty tough RAC."

 

 

He reminds me of AJ Green. Same height and weight. Even there mechanics and the way they run look identical.

 

I honestly think in 2-3 years he will make a name for himself. I don’t think the kid has character issues even though he had a run in his freshman year.

[RocCityRoller]

I don't think the Bills WR are that bad.

 

Z Jones and R. Foster can both go 750/ 5 TD this year. Add in D Thompson and D Williams (CFL) in a full off season, and see what happens.

 

Don't reach on a WR (Metcalf comes to mind)

 

Go inside out. Trade down. Draft DF7 and Oline. Get young legs at RB late.

 

Take the best blocking TE in the 5th or so.

 

1-2 new Oline (FA and draft), great blocking TE, give JA time and send 3WR and a RB into flight.

Let JA find who is open and throw to him, if no on is open run.

 

Improve the DF7 and allow opportunity for this terrific DB group (White, Hyde, Poyer, Wallace) to make plays.

With the cap money extend Poyer and Hyde now. Help them make plays to give JA a chance on short fields.

 

The Bills are so close.

 

Inside out. OL and DEF7 this draft. Its a crazy good draft for DEF7, get one.

Edited February 9, 2019 by RocCityRoller