SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ok Josh. I would like to see you stay in the pocket and deliver the ball instead of bailing MORE OFTEN! You've obviously done it on occasion. sorry man but your arguments are putting us to ? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm getting a little tired of the JA carried the offense narrative. The best QB'd game we've had all season was when Barkley gave others a chance to make plays. Allen needs to do that more often. Hero ball doesn't play in the NFL. Does he ever even stay in the pocket, step up, and deliver the ball? I haven't seen it. He's got to stop bailing so early. I get that the line is subpar, but he tends to feel pressure that doesn't even exist. There's a good chance that with a better line will come confidence, but JA needs to do his part as well. You have seen him stand in the pocket You have seen him throw the ball from the pocket You have seen him take bad hits in the pocket You either have or your not watching the games......I cant even count the times he has almost been sacked and left the pocket because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I give up. Josh Allen is the greatest QB of all time. He has absolutely nothing to work on as he's already perfect. If anything, he needs to take it easy on opposing D's because it's unfair. As a matter of fact, the NFL is not the place for him. They really need to create a new league for someone of his caliber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ok Josh. I would like to see you stay in the pocket and deliver the ball instead of bailing MORE OFTEN! You've obviously done it on occasion. Look at you being a smart ass b.c you make up ***** and get called out for it. He bails b.c he is the best offensive player this team has and has no help from any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Look at you being a smart ass b.c you make up ***** and get called out for it. He bails b.c he is the best offensive player this team has and has no help from any other player. No, but I would expect grown men to have more coherent responses than to pounce on some technicality. He needs to stop bailing when there's no pressure and step up in the pocket more often. If you don't agree with that, there's really nothing I can offer you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: No, but I would expect grown men to have more coherent responses than to pounce on some technicality. He needs to stop bailing when there's no pressure and step up in the pocket more often. If you don't agree with that, there's really nothing I can offer you. I would expect grown men to not make up ***** for the sake of doing it and actually watch the games when they enter a thread that requires them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: I would expect grown men to not make up ***** for the sake of doing it and actually watch the games when they enter a thread that requires them to. Exactly. He has nothing to work on. He's perfect. He's never bailed too early. Every throw is perfect including the picks. If his coaches are anything like the members of the cult, he has absolutely no chance of improving. Luckily, the Bills have semi qualified offensive coaches who will work with Josh to improve on his shortcomings and not sit him down and tell him that everything is everyone else's fault and he doesn't need to do anything different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: Exactly. He has nothing to work on. He's perfect. He's never bailed too early. Every throw is perfect including the picks. If his coaches are anything like the members of the cult, he has absolutely no chance of improving. Luckily, the Bills have semi qualified offensive coaches who will work with Josh to improve on his shortcomings and not sit him down and tell him that everything is everyone else's fault and he doesn't need to do anything different. You are just looking to fight people and I should have known by your first post. "Does he ever even stay in the pocket, step up, and deliver the ball? I haven't seen it." Next time dont say ***** like that and every person in this thread might take you more serious then a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Just now, Boca BIlls said: You are just looking to fight people and I should have known by your first post. "Does he ever even stay in the pocket, step up, and deliver the ball? I haven't seen it." Next time dont say ***** like that and every person in this thread might take you more serious then a troll. than I've you take the time to read my posts, I've been complimentary of Josh when it's warranted and I've been critical when it's warranted. Edited December 13, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: than I've you take the time to read my posts, I've been complimentary of Josh when it's warranted and I've been critical when it's warranted. I've you? See I can be a smart ass just like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Exactly. He has nothing to work on. He's perfect. He's never bailed too early. Every throw is perfect including the picks. If his coaches are anything like the members of the cult, he has absolutely no chance of improving. Luckily, the Bills have semi qualified offensive coaches who will work with Josh to improve on his shortcomings and not sit him down and tell him that everything is everyone else's fault and he doesn't need to do anything different. No need to argue w weirdos. Save your soul. Edited December 13, 2018 by nedboy7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm getting a little tired of the JA carried the offense narrative. The best QB'd game we've had all season was when Barkley gave others a chance to make plays. Allen needs to do that more often. Hero ball doesn't play in the NFL. Does he ever even stay in the pocket, step up, and deliver the ball? I haven't seen it. He's got to stop bailing so early. I get that the line is subpar, but he tends to feel pressure that doesn't even exist. There's a good chance that with a better line will come confidence, but JA needs to do his part as well. Josh Allen literally was the team's offense against the Jets. He accounted for 307 of the team's 368 yards of offense, and accounted for 16 of the team's 19 first downs that didn't come from penalties. If that's not carrying the offense then I don't know what is And yes, he absolutely does do the things you claim you've never seen; save the hyperbole. Edited December 13, 2018 by thebandit27 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: No need to argue w weirdos. Save your soul. He has no soul; his reputation score is 666! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: than I've you take the time to read my posts, I've been complimentary of Josh when it's warranted and I've been critical when it's warranted. If you stated JA has not stayed in the pocket to make a throw then you are overly critical- he has a ton to work on but the dude has stood and delivered many times and i have only watched 4 games- his bomb to robert foster was as good as it gets with standing and delivering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: He has no soul; his reputation score is 666! Ugh. Somebody needs to give me a rep point soon, even if it's one of those crooked faces! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: If you stated JA has not stayed in the pocket to make a throw then you are overly critical- he has a ton to work on but the dude has stood and delivered many times and i have only watched 4 games- his bomb to robert foster was as good as it gets with standing and delivering. No, that would make him blind. Anyone who has watched Josh play saw that great long bomb TD to Foster against the Jags. It looked like he was going to be sacked yet stood in there and got the ball perfectly to Foster. Against the Jets he stood there several times an delivered the ball. Does he have things to work on? Duh, he's a rookie who has made just 8 starts. But to be critical of him given his supporting cast is crusading. And I'd much rather he leave the pocket, even early, if it means not taking hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm getting a little tired of the JA carried the offense narrative. The best QB'd game we've had all season was when Barkley gave others a chance to make plays. Allen needs to do that more often. Hero ball doesn't play in the NFL. Does he ever even stay in the pocket, step up, and deliver the ball? I haven't seen it. He's got to stop bailing so early. I get that the line is subpar, but he tends to feel pressure that doesn't even exist. There's a good chance that with a better line will come confidence, but JA needs to do his part as well. Per the bold text, if you haven’t seen Allen do that then you simply haven’t watched or haven’t been paying attention. This makes me question the validity of your posts. It’s as if you’re simply making something up to support a narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Josh Allen literally was the team's offense against the Jets. He accounted for 307 of the team's 368 yards of offense, and accounted for 16 of the team's 19 first downs that didn't come from penalties. If that's not carrying the offense then I don't know what is And yes, he absolutely does do the things you claim you've never seen; save the hyperbole. I'm a believer in JA. But that is not to say that I'm confident that he is going to be a good franchise qb. I just don't know for sure whether he will ever be able to proficiently make the reads and go through progressions? Will he be able to make throws with the appropriate touch? The trap with judging a qb with such eye popping tools is that you don't know if the physical tools will be harnessed with the mental side of the position, the most important part of playing the position. What Barkley demonstrated in the Jet game is that if you know how to play the position and have good accuracy then for the short term even a qb with limited throwing talents can get by. With physical limitations you are not going to be a long term solution but you can see the difference between a more refined qb from a raw qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: I give up. Josh Allen is the greatest QB of all time. He has absolutely nothing to work on as he's already perfect. If anything, he needs to take it easy on opposing D's because it's unfair. As a matter of fact, the NFL is not the place for him. They really need to create a new league for someone of his caliber. Your most intelligent post on the subject to date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, K-9 said: Per the bold text, if you haven’t seen Allen do that then you simply haven’t watched or haven’t been paying attention. This makes me question the validity of your posts. It’s as if you’re simply making something up to support a narrative. It's called truthful hyperbole, but I think you already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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