26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) By Ian Wharton The 2018 rookie quarterback class is halfway through their first season., and we look in-depth at how each of the top-10 picks has performed. The last few quarterback draft classes has led to a new era of NFL passing efficiency. Offenses have exploded as rules, playmakers, and quarterbacks have spread defenses to the brink of their capabilities. The 2018 class has already seen the top-four quarterbacks selected named as a starter, and the fifth, Lamar Jackson, figures to be a starter in the next year or two. Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Josh Rosen have each claimed their starting job for the foreseeable future. It’s easier for quarterbacks now than ever to post adequate statistics and be average. Efficiency numbers are through the roof, but it still takes special talent to score touchdowns instead of field goals in the red zone. That’s where each of these rookies will have to hone their craft to prove worthy of their lofty draft status over the next four years. After reviewing every throw of each of the top-four rookies, it’s time to look at how each has performed to date. As rookies, the book is far from written as to how their careers will pan out, but their strengths and areas to improve have been on display early on. How they evolve from now can define their career success. Going in sequential draft order, we’ll highlight what’s to like, what needs improvement, and their outlook moving forward based on what is known today. Jackson won’t be featured since he hasn’t played meaningful snaps at quarterback yet. Mayfield Darnold Allen Rosen What's Next for the NFL's Five First-Round Rookie Quarterbacks? Five quarterbacks were selected in the first round of April's draft. The arrival of the group -- which includes Baker Mayfield (Browns), Sam Darnold (Jets), Josh Allen (Bills), Josh Rosen (Cardinals) and Lamar Jackson (Ravens) -- looked as if it was going to be one of the stories of 2018 ... but it hasn't quite worked out that way so far. Are the kids all right? Let's see how it's looking and what may come next. Edited November 2, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 This reads like a guy who loved Mayfield and Rosen predraft and didn't like Allen or Darnold. "Most worrisome is the utter lack of football awareness. Situational football separates winners from losers on a weekly basis, and Allen has never demonstrated he’s competent on conversion downs or able to progress quickly to mismatches. Everything moves slowly for Allen’s eyes and his arm can only make up for it so often. He’s only played the position for a few years, and it has certainly been reflected on the field." I really disagree with that. Allen is a smart player and I think saying he lacks football awareness is way off. The idea that he hasn't played the position long is dumb as well. Darnold played quarterback one year in high school and 2 at USC. Anyway I think Allen's issues are all mechanical. Footwork, release point and all that stuff. And we don't have mismatches to progress to because our receivers aren't those types of guys. This analysis is pretty off imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Umn.......WTF Rosen has not been good...this is not to say that he wont be good in the future I think they all have a chance to be....but to ignore the fact that Rosen has been bad just to keep the agenda alive is an insult to those of us that have watched him play 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Umn.......WTF Rosen has not been good...this is not to say that he wont be good in the future I think they all have a chance to be....but to ignore the fact that Rosen has been bad just to keep the agenda alive is an insult to those of us that have watched him play Let me know when you have looked at every single throw from each of the QBs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Let me know when you have looked at every single throw from each of the QBs. Ok....I will let you know.....not that it is necessary to look at every qb's throws.....I have seen most of Rosen's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Crusading much......? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 always sounds like a good idea.....but its a giant incomplete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Let me know when you have looked at every single throw from each of the QBs. Watching Rosen vs the Niners is pretty much lets you know who he is vs who he can be. The 1st 3 quarters is pretty much what you saw the whole year. A young QB making young throws. He finished that game very nicely. Thats who he can be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 What's Next for the NFL's Five First-Round Rookie Quarterbacks? Five quarterbacks were selected in the first round of April's draft. The arrival of the group -- which includes Baker Mayfield (Browns), Sam Darnold (Jets), Josh Allen (Bills), Josh Rosen (Cardinals) and Lamar Jackson (Ravens) -- looked as if it was going to be one of the stories of 2018 ... but it hasn't quite worked out that way so far. Are the kids all right? Let's see how it's looking and what may come next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I haven't watched as much NFL this year as I would like, but I have seen bits and pieces of all 5 of the 1st round rookies this year. I have seen missed reads, inaccurate throws, interceptions and pick 6's (not as much from Jackson, because most of his snaps are running plays or gadget plays and not really "regular" QB snaps). Just about what you would expect from rookie QB's on poor teams. I have also seen some positive plays made by each of them. Just about what you'd expect from NFL players with first round talent. It's just too soon to tell who will ultimately succeed and who will ultimately bust. Jackson and Allen have played the least, so there's even less to go on for them. I think we'll have a better idea on all of these guys (except maybe for Jackson, if Flacco stays the starter in Baltimore) at the end of next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I haven't watched as much NFL this year as I would like, but I have seen bits and pieces of all 5 of the 1st round rookies this year. I have seen missed reads, inaccurate throws, interceptions and pick 6's (not as much from Jackson, because most of his snaps are running plays or gadget plays and not really "regular" QB snaps). Just about what you would expect from rookie QB's on poor teams. I have also seen some positive plays made by each of them. Just about what you'd expect from NFL players with first round talent. It's just too soon to tell who will ultimately succeed and who will ultimately bust. Jackson and Allen have played the least, so there's even less to go on for them. I think we'll have a better idea on all of these guys (except maybe for Jackson, if Flacco stays the starter in Baltimore) at the end of next season. Nope. You have to pick the best one right now, and the rest are garbage. Everybody knows that. Hint: pick Josh Rosen or the OP will throw a tantrum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Literally the only thing I care about is which one ends up with the most Lombardi’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Darn shame that trolls refuse to read or just want to instigate. After reviewing every throw of each of the top-four rookies, it’s time to look at how each has performed to date. As rookies, the book is far from written as to how their careers will pan out, but their strengths and areas to improve have been on display early on. How they evolve from now can define their career success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Darn shame that trolls refuse to read or just want to instigate. After reviewing every throw of each of the top-four rookies, it’s time to look at how each has performed to date. As rookies, the book is far from written as to how their careers will pan out, but their strengths and areas to improve have been on display early on. How they evolve from now can define their career success. Trolls? We all know what your thinly veiled agenda is, pal. Get real.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Trolls? We all know what your thinly veiled agenda is, pal. Get real.... Troll along now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Too bad the offense that Allen is learning with sucks. I blame the fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Troll along now. That’s all you got? You and your “we drafted the wrong Josh” cronies aren’t sneaking up on anybody. Back to refreshing your twitter feed, Stewie. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Too bad the offense that Allen is learning with sucks. I blame the fans. That will get corrected in the offseason by Beane in UFA and the draft. They have to surround him with better talent as PHI, KC, CHI, and LAR have all done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a living as a sports analyst/writer. More power to them. Other than entertainment and fortification of current opinion, these writings are not worth the paper they are written on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gjv001 said: I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a living as a sports analyst/writer. More power to them. Other than entertainment and fortification of current opinion, these writings are not worth the paper they are written on. Nice empty statement absent of any substance or real analysis. Well done. Edited November 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Umn.......WTF Rosen has not been good...this is not to say that he wont be good in the future I think they all have a chance to be....but to ignore the fact that Rosen has been bad just to keep the agenda alive is an insult to those of us that have watched him play Could not agree more. He has a comeback win and everyone who liked him predraft come out and say he’s a future star. However they all hid underneath rocks after the Thursday night game. Just like the other rookies, he’s had more bad games than good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nice empty statement absent of any substance or real analysis. Well done. The only thing empty is your inability to understand opinion analysis vs facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, gjv001 said: The only thing empty is your inability to understand opinion analysis vs facts. Opinions rooted in actual analysis are a lot more meaningful than that empty conjecture you offered. Edited November 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Opinions rooted in actual analysis are a lot more meaningful that that empty conjecture you offered. Now you're starting to see the light "actual analysis". That's what Wharton's piece lacks. It's just entertaining dribble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, gjv001 said: Now you're starting to see the light "actual analysis". That's what Wharton's piece lacks. It's just entertaining dribble. He watches tape and film. What study have you done on any of these QBs to challenge his opinions? Dribble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, gjv001 said: It's just entertaining dribble. .....minus the entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 18 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Anyway I think Allen's issues are all mechanical. Footwork, release point and all that stuff. Yep. That's why I think it's a travesty to have him coached by a dude who never played QB before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, boater said: Yep. That's why I think it's a travesty to have him coached by a dude who never played QB before. He also has pre-snap and post-snap information processing to greatly improve upon, so it's not just physical with him. All of these guys have things to work on as anyone should reasonably expect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Started with Allen, picked up reading below in the first sentence and done. I don't read opinion based propaganda from CNN either. Quote Believe it or not, there have been positives for Buffalo Bills first-round pick Josh Allen beyond the fact that his contract can be terminated in 2021 without dead money. Edited November 3, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Opinions rooted in actual analysis are a lot more meaningful than that empty conjecture you offered. As long as those opinions rooted in “actual analysis” support your ongoing anti-Josh Allen crusade, you’ll buy whatever they are selling on Twitter and paste it here in your “unbiased” threads. Everyone knows your posting history re: Josh Allen. Stop being a phony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I mean, a lot of the stuff he says about Allen is accurate. It hasn't been pretty but he's in a bad situation. Only gripe I have is this: "The turnover-worthy plays and current elbow injury continue to highlight a reckless style of play and struggles protecting himself from bad situations." The elbow injury didn't result for reckless play. He made a terrific play in the pocket and took a late hit. Man I hope that elbow is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, Big C said: I mean, a lot of the stuff he says about Allen is accurate. It hasn't been pretty but he's in a bad situation. Only gripe I have is this: "The turnover-worthy plays and current elbow injury continue to highlight a reckless style of play and struggles protecting himself from bad situations." The elbow injury didn't result for reckless play. He made a terrific play in the pocket and took a late hit. Man I hope that elbow is OK. You're right That was a fluke play getting hit from both the inside and outside and a very good throw. It would have been nice to see him finish that game and continue playing beyond. Looks like he's on track to be back in the next couple of week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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