Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 Allen was better than Watson today. Watson has Hopkins and Fuller, was worse against the rush, threw two horrible INTs, fumbled twice, was sacked six times, didn't feel the rush worse than Josh, and his only TD was a fabulous catch. 1
That's No Moon Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:13 PM, jrober38 said: Allen looks exactly as advertised on the scouting reports. He looks like a guy who should have been picked in the 4th or 5th round who would compete for a roster spot. He looks completely outmatched out there. Expand He looks a lot like Tyler Bray. Rocket arm, no accuracy, no clue. 1
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:13 PM, jrober38 said: Allen looks exactly as advertised on the scouting reports. He looks like a guy who should have been picked in the 4th or 5th round who would compete for a roster spot. He looks completely outmatched out there. Expand Wrong. Allen was a clear 1st round prospect due to his physical abilities. He has more arm talent than 3/4ths of NFL QBs.
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:13 PM, jrober38 said: Allen looks exactly as advertised on the scouting reports. He looks like a guy who should have been picked in the 4th or 5th round who would compete for a roster spot. He looks completely outmatched out there. Expand What scouting reports had him as a 4th or 5 th round pick? Stupid post. 1
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:14 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Allen was better than Watson today. Watson has Hopkins and Fuller, was worse against the rush, threw two horrible INTs, fumbled twice, was sacked six times, didn't feel the rush worse than Josh, and his only TD was a fabulous catch. Expand Two terrible INTs? You call a freak ball batted in the air that drops incomplete 99/100 times a "terrible INT?" No.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:16 PM, BringBackOrton said: Two terrible INTs? You call a freak ball batted in the air that drops incomplete 99/100 times a "terrible INT?" No. Expand Fine. One 2x terrible INT and one average INT.
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:14 PM, That's No Moon said: He looks a lot like Tyler Bray. Rocket arm, no accuracy, no clue. Expand Someone just compared him to Logan Thomas. That's a great comparison. Allen might be big, strong and fast, but he has no idea how to play QB. He's taken our passing game back to the stone age of professional football.
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:17 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Fine. One 2x terrible INT and one average INT. Expand Thank you. Watson had an ugly game, but in the biz of making excuses for QBs, we do call it "played well enough to win." See, Bills v Titans on 10/7/18 for more info.
Fadingpain Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:14 PM, BringBackOrton said: Wrong. Allen was a clear 1st round prospect due to his physical abilities. He has more arm talent than 3/4ths of NFL QBs. Expand Most draft experts considered him a 3rd round talent who would be taken much higher in the 1st round simply due to need around the league and the fact that the team that took him could be the lucky lottery winner, but that's all based on speculated, perceived, potential. The Allen we have seen is the guy he has always been. Why anyone thought he would morph into something much, much better at the NFL level, facing much better talent and coaching, I have no idea. These arguments will go away with the passage of time. I mean no one around here is still waiting for EJ Manuel to arrive, are they? They were all arguing for EJ a while ago though.
Success Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:13 PM, jrober38 said: Allen looks exactly as advertised on the scouting reports. He looks like a guy who should have been picked in the 4th or 5th round who would compete for a roster spot. He looks completely outmatched out there. There's been no progress since the Bengals preseason game. Expand Who had him as a 4th or 5th rounder?
TheBrownBear Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:17 PM, jrober38 said: Someone just compared him to Logan Thomas. That's a great comparison. Allen might be big, strong and fast, but he has no idea how to play QB. He's taken our passing game back to the stone age of professional football. Expand Please go back and watch the video of Tyrod's performances last year against the Saints, Jags and others. Our passing game has been in the stone ages since about week 8 of 2011.
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 9:49 PM, JM57 said: This is very bad Expand If only Captain Dimarco knew the rules of football and how to line up correctly. 1
Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:19 PM, BringBackOrton said: Thank you. Watson had an ugly game, but in the biz of making excuses for QBs, we do call it "played well enough to win." See, Bills v Titans on 10/7/18 for more info. Expand He didn't play well enough to win. He was awful. That was a won in spite of him. And I like him a lot. He threw a bunch of nice balls. But he was awful. They won because of the pick six, they didn't score on a first and goal from the one after an interference in the endzone call. He was extremely careless with the ball.
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:20 PM, Fadingpain said: Most draft experts considered him a 3rd round talent who would be taken much higher in the 1st round simply due to need around the league and the fact that the team that took him could be the lucky lottery winner, but that's all based on speculated, perceived, potential. The Allen we have seen is the guy he has always been. Why anyone thought he would morph into something much, much better at the NFL level, facing much better talent and coaching, I have no idea. These arguments will go away with the passage of time. I mean no one around here is still waiting for EJ Manuel to arrive, are they? They were all arguing for EJ a while ago though. Expand No they didn't. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2765842-nfl-draft-400-top-qbs-for-2018-nfl-draft#slide20 Matt Miller gave him the second highest QB grade in 2018. Ranked him a 1st rounder.
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:20 PM, TheBrownBear said: Please go back and watch the video of Tyrod's performances last year against the Saints, Jags and others. Our passing game has been in the stone ages since about week 8 of 2011. Expand It's never been this bad. We have an historically bad offense right now that's averaging under 13 points per game.
Figster Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:14 PM, BringBackOrton said: Wrong. Allen was a clear 1st round prospect due to his physical abilities. He has more arm talent than 3/4ths of NFL QBs. Expand Allen is as advertised, dripping with raw talent, but a project. Thanks to Beane head Buffalo had to speed up the process. I like what I'm seeing... 1
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 10:20 PM, Fadingpain said: Most draft experts considered him a 3rd round talent who would be taken much higher in the 1st round simply due to need around the league and the fact that the team that took him could be the lucky lottery winner, but that's all based on speculated, perceived, potential. The Allen we have seen is the guy he has always been. Why anyone thought he would morph into something much, much better at the NFL level, facing much better talent and coaching, I have no idea. These arguments will go away with the passage of time. I mean no one around here is still waiting for EJ Manuel to arrive, are they? They were all arguing for EJ a while ago though. Expand Which passes specifically did Allen not complete today that you'd expect a 1st round talent rookie to complete? Keep in mind he had 11 completions and 6 incompletions.
Albwan Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) All I know is i've grown tired of watching just about every other nfl team throwing the ball and scoring points. It's about time this organization gets more than 50% of the damned game right at any given time. Brock Osweiller... omg Edited October 14, 2018 by Albwan
Iverwig Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 Keep in mind Allen should not be playing this year. Most scouts said he needed to sit and work on some things but yet the Bills have run him out there and fans expect him to be a star. It wasn’t going to happen this year and he along with the team QB position have suffered due to an incompetent staff and organization.
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