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22 minutes ago, Foxx said:

@transplantbillsfan taking a victory lap 1/3 of the way in. :lol:

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I don't get it. Biden is a lose-lose. If he is the nominee after the HUGE thumb on the scale from  the DNC chances are excellent he loses the general. If he wins the election (after found thumb drives, hacking, and cases of ballots are mysteriously discovered), we all lose.

And yet, I am reading people on this sub-forum say they will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee.  Why? Because there is a D after his name? He's a senile, corrupt, life long politician. And none of that is hyperbole. Yikes.

 

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13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Just watched the Sanders Town Hall on Fox. One thing I have to say is that Bernie really believes this stuff.  There isn't a single solitary thing that he thinks wouldn't get much, much better with more government involvement. Unfortunately, our experience as Americans has proven that's rarely the case. (The other thing that stood out about the Michigan Town Hall audience was just how Muslims were in the room. I'm not making a racist judgement here....just making an observation based on the head count.)

The U.S. is one of the best, if not the best, country in history.  How can everything be as bad as he paints?  There are always areas for improvement but he makes the U.S. sound like North Korea.

 

What a terrible country where a man who has never held a real job can become a multimillionaire with 3 houses.  I mean 2 houses and a $600k cabin.

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7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I don't get it. Biden is a lose-lose. If he is the nominee after the HUGE thumb on the scale from  the DNC chances are excellent he loses the general. If he wins the election (after found thumb drives, hacking, and cases of ballots are mysteriously discovered), we all lose.

And yet, I am reading people on this sub-forum say they will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee.  Why? Because there is a D after his name? He's a senile, corrupt, life long politician. And none of that is hyperbole. Yikes.

 

what is totally mind boggling for me is that they don't understand (or maybe they do) that Joe won't be calling the shots. a vote for Joe is essentially a vote for the deep state and all the graft and corruption that has flourished this millennium.  they must enjoy having their elite on a pedestal where they can ***** you and i and not even use Vaseline (apologies for the verbiage, especially when talking to a woman but there really is no other way to say it accurately) in their raping of America. to have a two tiered  justice system and actively vote for it is mind numbingly stupid.  i mean are they completely blind to these Democrat cesspools that already exist that they want to foist upon the entirety of the county? the Democrats are all about globalism and bringing America down to third world status.

 

if Joe somehow gets elected, they deserve whatever they get, it is the rest of humanity that i have empathy for.

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11 minutes ago, Foxx said:

what is totally mind boggling for me is that they don't understand (or maybe they do) that Joe won't be calling the shots. a vote for Joe is essentially a vote for the deep state and all the graft and corruption that has flourished this millennium.

 

The morons don't care; they just want their "team" to win.

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2 hours ago, Foxx said:

@transplantbillsfan taking a victory lap 1/3 of the way in. :lol:

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No victory lap.

 

@Deranged Rhino was just very, very wrong about something he was absolutely certain of and rather than admit how consistently he claimed he was absolutely certain about something that has already been proven false, he denies he ever adamantly argued such a thing.

 

So no victory lap. Just some good old fashioned ribbing. :thumbsup:

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8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Hey @Deranged Rhino... notice this post? It's you literally saying Joe had no chance to win the Democratic nomination 

 

The quote you're referring to is literally saying the general election ;) 

 

You're wrong. 

 

(Like you're wrong about Joe)

 

But let's focus on this. Joe has proven that he has no marbles left in his head, he won't be POTUS, he'll be a puppet. You're still okay with voting for a man who you know cannot do the job and instead relying upon unelected officials to do it for him from the shadows? You find this acceptable? 

 

You're in for a fun 7 months, but at least your hard won Trump avatar will soak up your tears. 

On 2/4/2020 at 7:57 AM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

From the beginning you said it was a sure thing that Joe would win the nomination and beat Trump. 

 

You hit that hard, repeatedly (not that you wanted Joe, but that's how it would go) -- I told you that Joe had no chance

 

And he doesn't. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The quote you're referring to is literally saying the general election ;) 

 

You're wrong. 

 

(Like you're wrong about Joe)

 

But let's focus on this. Joe has proven that he has no marbles left in his head, he won't be POTUS, he'll be a puppet. You're still okay with voting for a man who you know cannot do the job and instead relying upon unelected officials to do it for him from the shadows? You find this acceptable? 

 

You're in for a fun 7 months, but at least your hard won Trump avatar will soak up your tears. 

 

 

Wow.

 

Look.

 

You're still denying.

 

Just incredible. :doh:

 

There's no running from being wrong in November for you when Trump Loses. :flirt:

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8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

And... you dodged the actual question posed to you. Do you not find it problematic to support a candidate who is mentally unable to do the job and instead rely on his "team" to do it for him? Is that not a threat to everything this republic stands for? 

 

Or is it irrelevant to you because you're so focused on "winning"? 

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@Deranged Rhino BidenS / Bernie has one chance to beat TrumpOLINI....build the complex set of COALITIONS ObushaObombney built 2012 ....BidenS picks Bernie or Bernie picks Bidens keeping promises and insiders happy ....but TrumpOLINI is no Mittless Mormon, AND 16.4 MILLION voters did not get an Obombneycare insurance refund like 2011

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5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

And... you dodged the actual question posed to you. Do you not find it problematic to support a candidate who is mentally unable to do the job and instead rely on his "team" to do it for him? Is that not a threat to everything this republic stands for? 

 

Or is it irrelevant to you because you're so focused on "winning"? 

who will be running the show.

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@transplantbillsfan ReaGUN was reelected known to be demented and dying of Alzheimer's.... BidenS bribes taken are similar corruptions to ReaGUNs ....voters want to be lied to in their favorite ways be it McCARTHYISM or reassuring them their vote for a black man proves they all are not racist..... thus a rare truth telling CANDIDATE like Ralph Nader or WWW.HOWIEHAWKINS.US is easily censored and lied about by fake news CNN & FOX Rrrruussshhah dingy Crazy GREEDY LIMPboss radio cult liar dittoheads and fake print news most little Chamber of Commerce rags

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@Just Joshin' best country in the history of genocide slavery and spending on never to be used weapons, illegal wars in 160 countries and most money spent upon healthcare with most people not getting healthcare...Bernie is a corrupt liar in office but is telling the truth mostly to his eager true believers.... AND USA is the best at borrowing 24 trillion dollars without taxing the rich who are getting rich off endless polluter oil war crime profiteering banksters zionism 

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Lack of distinguish accomplishments while being both a senator and VP for a lazy pResident. His "age" is not the factor here, but rather his possible sliding into dementia which the "fake news" media is covering up until they get him to beat Communist Bernie out of race, again. His running mate will reap the rewards, so they think.

 

 

 

Three reasons Joe Biden will never be president

by Byron York

 

Original Article

 

Joe Biden was sworn into the United States Senate on January 3, 1973.

 

What does 36 years in the Senate say about a politician? It says he is a senator -- not a president. So the first reason Biden will not become president is that no one who served 36 years in the Senate has ever become president. No one who served 30 years in the Senate has ever become president. No one who served 25 years in the Senate has ever become president. No one who served 20 years in the Senate has ever become president. No one who served 15 years in the Senate has ever become president.

 

A long career in the Senate is simply not a foundation for a successful run for the White House. The most recent political figure to realize that was Barack Obama, who was sworn into the Senate in 2005 and two years later was running for the presidency — and to get out of the Senate.

 

OK, put aside the Senate, Biden's supporters would say. What about his eight years as vice president? Certainly that could be the basis for a successful presidential run. But the second reason Biden will not become president is that the record of vice presidents on that score is not encouraging.

 

Fourteen vice presidents have become president. Of those, eight became president upon the death of the president. Of that group, some were later elected to the White House, but they were running for the office as the sitting president.

 

Others, such as George H.W. Bush, became president by running to succeed the president they served. They ran for president as the sitting vice president. When Bush did that, in 1988, it had not been done since 1836. It has not been done since.

 

In any event, that is not Biden's situation. He served eight years as vice president but did not run to succeed Obama. Now, he is running as a private citizen.

Only one president has gone from the vice presidency to private life and then to the presidency. Richard Nixon served as vice president in the 1950s, narrowly lost the 1960 presidential election, and then came back to win the presidency in 1968. That is Biden's hope — that a vice president can leave office and then, after a period outside government, return to win the White House.

 

Perhaps. But Nixon, who spent less than three years in the Senate, became vice president a few days after turning 40 and was sworn in as president at 56 — more than two decades younger than Biden, who will be 78 on Inauguration Day, 2021.

 

Finally, the third reason Biden will not be president is the "14-Year Rule." The idea of former George W. Bush speechwriter John McConnell, and popularized by writer Jonathan Rauch, it basically says that politicians have a strict sell-by date. "No one gets elected president who needs longer than 14 years to get from his or her first gubernatorial or Senate victory to either the presidency or the vice presidency," Rauch wrote. That has been true for a century.

 

Biden didn't even get close. It took him 36 years to get from his first Senate victory to the vice presidency. If he wins the presidency now, it would be 47 years from that first Senate swearing-in until Inauguration Day.

 

Of course, it's possible the 14-Year Rule, the "Too Long In The Senate Rule," and the "How Vice Presidents Become President Rule" might all be wrong in Biden's case. If so, he can frame this headline and hang it somewhere in the White House.

 

But don't bet on it.

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Hmmmm...  talking about the General, eh?

 

@Deranged Rhino: "From the beginning you said it was a sure thing that Joe would win the nomination and beat Trump. 

 

You hit that hard, repeatedly (not that you wanted Joe, but that's how it would go) -- I told you that Joe had no chance.

 

And he doesn't. "

 

Question -- would Joe face Trump in the general or the primary? 

 

Yeah. Reading is hard. 

 

And you're still running from the actual question. Why is that? Is it because you know you can't answer it reasonably? 

 

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This was hilarious. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Foxx said:

@transplantbillsfan's boy. man, i would be proud of this.... swamp creature.

 

:10 in, "i'm about ready to slap you in the face"

 

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1237387978428813312

 

 

Great plan, Joe. Tell a blue-collar Michigan worker he's 'full of schitt' after you announced you're going to bring in Robert Francis to follow up on his promise to confiscate all the guns.

 

 

 

 

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@B-Man cute but not funny clowns tease bulls and squirt kids with water out of flowers....blueREDS still running are not Homer Red or Army National Guard....they lie about USA genocide globally...not funny to hear dementia corruption and half truths about illegal wars in 160 countries.... you are the worst kind of bot @B-Man to laugh at your own sick perverted "jokes"

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

I'm stunned to read so many leftists trying to defend him today. Frum was trying to explain that it was the Joe they want in the race. Combative.

 

Because telling a Michigan union worker you want to slap him for calling you out on your lie is just the kind of winning strategy the Dem's need to take down Trump. :lol:

 

 

C'mon, Joe. Tell us about peace through green jobs! 

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