snafu Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: probably better here... The same "I'm running for President so you can't investigate me" tactic Biden used during the Ukraine saga. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 hours ago, BillStime said: Biden should definitely confront this - but so should Trump. We should just ignore the fact that the Trump's legal team is in court trying to prevent a woman, who he allegedly raped; from obtaining his DNA? Woman seeking Trump's DNA fights his effort to delay suit A lawyer for a woman who has accused President Donald Trump of raping her in the 1990s says he's trying to keep the truth from coming out by attempting to delay her defamation lawsuit and her effort to get his DNA People in glass houses.... You keep bringing this up in a stunning example of whataboutery. You should make a thread out of it... In any event, this is from your article. This is the purpose of the request...seems like a hope and a prayer. The courts exist for this purpose. If there's no realistic purpose in requesting someone's DNA then the request ought to be challenged. You want to spin it into "protecting" the President, that's your interpretation. I disagree with your view. Carroll is seeking a DNA sample from Trump to see whether it matches unidentified male genetic material in skin cells on a dress that Carroll says she wore during the alleged rape, hasn't laundered and has never donned again, except for a photo shoot last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: GRAP ‘EM BY THE *****! Stinkfinger Joe 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, snafu said: You keep bringing this up in a stunning example of whataboutery. You should make a thread out of it... In any event, this is from your article. This is the purpose of the request...seems like a hope and a prayer. The courts exist for this purpose. If there's no realistic purpose in requesting someone's DNA then the request ought to be challenged. You want to spin it into "protecting" the President, that's your interpretation. I disagree with your view. Carroll is seeking a DNA sample from Trump to see whether it matches unidentified male genetic material in skin cells on a dress that Carroll says she wore during the alleged rape, hasn't laundered and has never donned again, except for a photo shoot last year. Breaking news: Trump is not a saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, BillStime said: Breaking news: Trump is not a saint. "Trump is not a saint" is old news. "Trump is not a saint" is news that's been repeated often. The breaking news is that Biden isn't a saint. This is news that isn't repeated often. That's why people are talking about Biden and not Trump thiStime. Pretty simple to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Oh, I dunno - Trump is involved with THOUSANDS of law suits - just ask any one of the poor blue collar small business owner who got FUKD over by Trump. Trump has given NO one (but Trumpholes like you) a reason to give him the benefit of doubt. ...and CERTAINLY we are NOT a litigious society with quick buck ambulance chasers going after deep pockets......naw, NO WAY...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and CERTAINLY we are NOT a litigious society with quick buck ambulance chasers going after deep pockets......naw, NO WAY...... When Trump was running, and subsequently elected, womenwho had ever met Donald Trump and taken a photo with him everywhere cheered!!! They thought they had hit the jackpot. "He's gonna pay us all off now, regardless of how out-there the allegation!" Except, instead of following his his past attorney-advice to "just pay them to go away," it now became "fight it." Ut oh. Rich (and/or famous) men have long paid off "allegations" so they go away. They'd have been better off doing this: I am sure some did, but when could that have possibly started? (10-20 years ago?) Since the Biden-finger-rape allegation got a second life (it had come up last year and no one noticed) I have felt the only reason she might have credence (as opposed to "why didn't you come forward when this happened?) is because he was a sitting Senator when it allegedly happened (a VERY powerful position), and going to the press back then who have been a non-starter (her mother calling in to Larry King notwithstanding). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: When Trump was running, and subsequently elected, womenwho had ever met Donald Trump and taken a photo with him everywhere cheered!!! They thought they had hit the jackpot. "He's gonna pay us all off now, regardless of how out-there the allegation!" Except, instead of following his his past attorney-advice to "just pay them to go away," it now became "fight it." Ut oh. Rich (and/or famous) men have long paid off "allegations" so they go away. They'd have been better off doing this: I am sure some did, but when could that have possibly started? (10-20 years ago?) Since the Biden-finger-rape allegation got a second life (it had come up last year and no one noticed) I have felt the only reason she might have credence (as opposed to "why didn't you come forward when this happened?) is because he was a sitting Senator when it allegedly happened (a VERY powerful position), and going to the press back then who have been a non-starter (her mother calling in to Larry King notwithstanding). ......I am certainly in a conundrum regardless of who or what party, position, etc.....BUT am interested in YOUR perspective as a highly valued female poster....certainly there have been MAJOR inhibitions for women coming forward for a multitude of silencing reasons which in their defense sucks....at the same time, should there be or perhaps NOT, a semblance of "statute of limitations" ?.....perhaps they exist legally but in the salacious feeding frenzy of real time media currently, is digging up dirt from 20, 30 or 35 years ago even relevant?....sure TBD'ers are not running for office, but can you imagine a TBD expose' of posters' past (I was an altar boy so I am easily excluded-COUGH)??..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......I am certainly in a conundrum regardless of who or what party, position, etc.....BUT am interested in YOUR perspective as a highly valued female poster....certainly there have been MAJOR inhibitions for women coming forward for a multitude of silencing reasons which in their defense sucks....at the same time, should there be or perhaps NOT, a semblance of "statute of limitations" ?.....perhaps they exist legally but in the salacious feeding frenzy of real time media currently, is digging up dirt from 20, 30 or 35 years ago even relevant?....sure TBD'ers are not running for office, but can you imagine a TBD expose' of posters' past (I was an altar boy so I am easily excluded-COUGH)??..... I do not normally think any allegations from 20, 30 years ago (or longer) should be allowed to come forward, never mind result in a charge and conviction. There are exceptions of course - police corruption (unwilling to take a complaint against a powerful man, purposely botching a complaint against a powerful man), powerful men being the alleged perpetrators, so women are too scared to come forward at the time, and possibly, children (there is a reason for the possibly as people can remake a memory) although children would need a cutoff before they turned 21 (25, 28, but none of this 30 years later stuff). How in the world can you (generic you) convict in a he-said-she-said situation when our entire criminal justice system is built on innocent until proven guilty? Can you accurately recall what you did last week, let alone what happened 40 years ago? Some say that the event is burned into your (generic your) brain, but there is enough instances of "if you say it often enough, it becomes true" to question long term memories. That is why contemporaneous evidence is so helpful, at least to me. Sexual assault is, unfortunately, more prevalent than anyone would like to admit. Would it be horrible to come forward with a case of sexual assault against someone you know? (Which is much more prevalent than the stranger bopping you over the head and dragging you into the bushes which would result in most women seeking immediate help and pressing charges.) Of course it would be traumatic (in addition to the trauma of the assault). But, there are reasons why we have statute of limitations, and that is not to protect the guilty. I honestly feel sorry for men these days if they have any kind of money or power. It used to be you worried about someone showing up with a kid and claiming it as yours. (DNA helped with the liars.) Now, men need to worry about a sexual assault allegation that is 20, 30, 40 years ago. And, that can impact your freedom, not just your pocketbook. Edited April 29, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hedge said: When will you realize Dems will sacrifice everything for the Supreme Court. Isn’t that what it’s all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Please, Democrats, gift Joe Biden with a memorial shawl and send him home to play Parcheesi and watch Rachael Maddow! https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/joe-biden-appears-fall-asleep-hillary-clinton-town/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 15 hours ago, BillStime said: Breaking news: Trump is not a saint. breaking news, this is the '20 Democratic Presidential Primary thread. since Trump is not the subject of being primaried in any primaries, your constant flailing is just whataboutisim. there are plenty of Trump threads, this isn't one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Foxx said: breaking news, this is the '20 Democratic Presidential Primary thread. since Trump is not the subject of being primaried in any primaries, your constant flailing is just whataboutisim. there are plenty of Trump threads, this isn't one of them. oh, and what authority do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 37 minutes ago, BillStime said: oh, and what authority do you have? the ability to have reading comprehension. you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Hedge said: I'll take "Ways To Destroy Your Credibility in 20 Seconds" for $200, Alex. You're a real champion for women, Gillibrand. I suggest you start hanging out with Kamala Harris so she can give you tips on how to retain your senate seat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Foxx said: the ability to have reading comprehension. you? just block me snowflake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, BillStime said: just block me snowflake You must have received the memo from your bosses that it was time to attempt to steal "snowflake" from the non pussies of this world. It's no wonder that you pussies can't have an original thought. Your new leader is a finger !@#$ plagiarist who makes up outrageous lies on a daily basis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: I'll take "Ways To Destroy Your Credibility in 20 Seconds" for $200, Alex. You're a real champion for women, Gillibrand. I suggest you start hanging out with Kamala Harris so she can give you tips on how to retain your senate seat. Wouldn't she need to start out with some modicum credibility in order for any credibility to be destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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