Syracuse Basketball 2023-24

[The Poojer]

This is painful

[row_33]

1 minute ago, The Poojer said:

This is painful

tough opponent 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

That was brutal. The announcers are right. Very poor motion with Syracuse’s offense. Not much cutting and ball movement. So, basically the same as it’s been the last 5 years.
 

Surprised though that the shooting was that bad.  Some really atrocious misses. But I guess a good D will cause you to speed everything up. 

[Bray Wyatt]

38 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

?

 

Any excitement I had has been taken out back and shot

[bbb]

6 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

I’m just excited to watch some cuse b-ball!

 

3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Any excitement I had has been taken out back and shot

 

My exact emotions on Tuesday with Bonas.  

[Gugny]

14 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

My prediction...expect to see JG3 at PG at some point tonight.

 

 

22 minutes.  2 assists; 3 points.

[DCOrange]

Well that was a very very bad not good game. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

22 minutes.  2 assists; 3 points.

 

Any yet he at least looked the part of a game managing point guard.  Jalen Carey always looks like he’s going to crap his pants out there.  JG3 is a gamer.  He’ll be alright.  Notice how Virginia was basically face guarding him on the perimeter?

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

Well that was a very very bad not good game. 

 

I once scored 34 points in a CYO game.

[DCOrange]

42 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I once scored 34 points in a CYO game.

? I'm honestly pretty convinced that if you gave me a couple weeks to dedicate to training again, I would be a better ball-handler than most of the people on our team and could at least hold my own shooting-wise (not with Boeheim and Girard, but I'm confident I could shoot as well as guys like Carey and Guerrier).

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

? I'm honestly pretty convinced that if you gave me a couple weeks to dedicate to training again, I would be a better ball-handler than most of the people on our team and could at least hold my own shooting-wise (not with Boeheim and Girard, but I'm confident I could shoot as well as guys like Carey and Guerrier).

 

I play an old man game now, for sure. But when I play (which is at least 3 times per week), I am making 80%+ of my shots. I understand that it's much different playing D-I-- but I also know that our guys are 8 inches taller than me and can jump probably 2-3 feet higher than me.  And it boggles my mind that guys can miss so many open shots.  

[DCOrange]

10 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

I play an old man game now, for sure. But when I play (which is at least 3 times per week), I am making 80%+ of my shots. I understand that it's much different playing D-I-- but I also know that our guys are 8 inches taller than me and can jump probably 2-3 feet higher than me.  And it boggles my mind that guys can miss so many open shots.  

I think in time this team will prove to be a good shooting team, but there's so many other issues with it. I just happened to be a very good shooter in my own right so I do think I could hang with the lesser shooters on our team.

 

The ball-handling part is more about how poor our ball-handlers are than anything else haha.

 

FWIW, I'm still in my mid-20s and I do realistically think I could have walked on at Syracuse if I had wanted to. I played against a couple of our recent players when we were in high school (note: none of our good players) and I held my own pretty well back then.

Edited November 7, 2019 by DCOrange

[The Poojer]

i was really disgusted by the game last night, but then i listened to Boeheim's post game presser, he pointed out several things they did well as well as the obvious things they didn't do well, but he kept hammering the point that this VA team is the best defensive team in the country, and the second best is probably a VERY distant second.  He also made comments about how ridiculous it is to start the season not only against a conference foe, but also the reigning National Champions to boot....he made some really good points and was very encouraging...should be interesting to see how things shake out

[row_33]

so what are you fans realistically looking for this season?

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

15 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I think in time this team will prove to be a good shooting team, but there's so many other issues with it. I just happened to be a very good shooter in my own right so I do think I could hang with the lesser shooters on our team.

 

The ball-handling part is more about how poor our ball-handlers are than anything else haha.

 

FWIW, I'm still in my mid-20s and I do realistically think I could have walked on at Syracuse if I had wanted to. I played against a couple of our recent players when we were in high school (note: none of our good players) and I held my own pretty well back then.

 

That's sweet!  You're a real baller!

 

What's funny is that I hit my bball prime at like age 38. I realized how to play smart and pick my spots finally. I just play rec leagues and pick-up. But like I said, if I have an open 15-17-footer, I don't miss. 

[The Poojer]

29-1

 

3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

so what are you fans realistically looking for this season?

 

[row_33]

Just now, The Poojer said:

29-1

 

 

that would be an epic season in the ACC, already giving up one home game

 

 

[DCOrange]

1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

That's sweet!  You're a real baller!

 

What's funny is that I hit my bball prime at like age 38. I realized how to play smart and pick my spots finally. I just play rec leagues and pick-up. But like I said, if I have an open 15-17-footer, I don't miss. 

For me, my skills probably peaked in high school (just because I was going into school an hour or two early to train with my coach as well as school and AAU practices after school). I shot roughly 50% from 3 in high school. That definitely dropped off in college, but I became a lot more aggressive once I got to college which I think made me a much better player despite my shooting dropping off a little bit.

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

so what are you fans realistically looking for this season?

 

Realistically I'm hoping for an NIT birth and I don't think we can take that for granted.

[ChevyVanMiller]

Currently on vacation in Puerto Rico and came upon this beautiful basketball court near the fort in San Juan. It was donated post-Hurricane Maria by 'Cuse legend and local hero Carmelo Anthony. It is near one of the poorest sections of the city and it was meant to give kids something to do during the many months without electricity.

Edited November 10, 2019 by ChevyVanMiller

[Johnny Hammersticks]

23 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Currently on vacation in Puerto Rico and came upon this beautiful basketball court near the fort in San Juan. It was donated post-Hurricane Maria by 'Cuse legend and local hero Carmelo Anthony. It is near one of the poorest sections of the city and it was meant to give kids something to do during the many months without electricity.

 

Thanks for sharing.  Melo is a really good dude.  “Met” him a couple times.  Does great things in the community, and is actually pretty down to earth.

[Buffalo716]

On 11/11/2019 at 8:59 AM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Thanks for sharing.  Melo is a really good dude.  “Met” him a couple times.  Does great things in the community, and is actually pretty down to earth.

Definitely and he's always given back

 

....

 

Let's hope another 5* in Isiah wants to wear the orange and white

[Buffalo716]

Marek with the spin cycle and slam!

[LB3]

Good win. Send Carey packing. Girard is the guy.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Didn’t get to see it. Offense look more on track? 
 

I thought Carey was supposed to be the man this year! 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

9 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Didn’t get to see it. Offense look more on track? 
 

I thought Carey was supposed to be the man this year! 

 

Still need lots of polish, but the defense and shooting was much better.  JG3 just brings a palpable energy to the game every time he checks in for Carey.  He looks the part of a major D-1 PG, and while Carey has a lot of talent, he just does not seem to be mentally tough enough.  Lacks confidence...easily shaken.  I feel bad for the kid, but I’ve been saying since summer time that Girard was going to will his way to that starting spot.

 

Nice to see lots of kids get minutes in the 2nd half.  Guerrier finally showed some stuff offensively.  Sidibe looked pretty solid.  I’d like to see Goodine get some minutes at SG....which he might have at the very end last night.

 

Good bounce back game.

[DCOrange]

I always take games like Sidibe and Dolezaj's today with a grain of salt. Not sure some of the finishes they had today don't get pinned to the backboard against ACC competition, but it was definitely a promising development. Sidibe continues to look much, much healthier than he has the past couple years and he was a pretty productive player (albeit in limited minutes) before the injuries originally crept in. Hopefully he continues to play well moving forwards.

 

Girard hasn't even shot the ball very well so far, especially relative to expectations, but his ball-handling looks legitimately above average, and on this team, that makes him the clear best ball-handler. And since he's such a threat off the ball, his presence as point guard allows the ball to move a lot more rather than sticking to guys' hands.

 

Boeheim and Hughes showed off much more well-rounded games than they get credit for last night too. 

[inkman]

12 hours ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

Good win. Send Carey packing. Girard is the guy.

 

10 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Didn’t get to see it. Offense look more on track? 
 

I thought Carey was supposed to be the man this year! 

Carey benched. Girard starting Saturday per Boeheim's post game interview.  

 

Syracuse, N.Y. – Syracuse will have a new starting point guard when the Orange takes the court against Seattle on Saturday. Joe Girard III, the high-scoring freshman from Glens Falls, earned the promotion just two games into the season. Syracuse c... https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2019/11/lineup-shakeup-jim-boeheim-names-joe-girard-as-starter-after-win-over-colgate.html

Edited November 14, 2019 by inkman

[Johnny Hammersticks]

It’s sad, really.  I’ve been noticing Carey reacting to some negative stuff about him on Twitter, and this was even before the UVA game.  He clearly is an insecure kid, and you can see it in his game.  

 

My hope is that JC responds well and remains a good teammate.  Finish out the season and enter the transfer portal if need be, but I hope he does it right.  Good kid, overall.

[The Poojer]

I liked what i saw in Geurrier and Jesse Edwards(damn is he long) last night, hell, even Howard Washington looked more solid than he's looked before.  Gotta keep in mind, Virginia is a whole different beast and are going to make a lot, if not most teams, look as bad as syracuse did.  Bol Ajak apparently is being red-shirted

[inkman]

The game was certainly decided but Washington had a better handle on the offence than Carey does at this point. Hopefully Jalen can transfer without much fanfare. Gurrier has me a little concerned as he's going to be facing looooong ACC bigs down low.  Hopefully, he learned how to use his strength to overcome that. 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

It’s sad, really.  I’ve been noticing Carey reacting to some negative stuff about him on Twitter, and this was even before the UVA game.  He clearly is an insecure kid, and you can see it in his game.  

 

My hope is that JC responds well and remains a good teammate.  Finish out the season and enter the transfer portal if need be, but I hope he does it right.  Good kid, overall.

Yea it's sad but that's major college sports....

 

Carey has/had tons of potential... But as you said, just doenst seem to have it upstairs rn....

 

It's a shame because he was a top 50 recruit but right when he came on campus last year, everybody was so pumped for him and thought hed replace Howard, but he always looked Shakey with the ball in his hands 

 

I said last summer that I thought he'd be a transfer after this season because JG3

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Isn’t it interesting that there hasn’t been a 247 crystal ball prediction for Isaiah Jackson since 10/22?  His people are really holding this very tight to the vest.  I keep hearing Kentucky lean but Syracuse is still “in it.”

 

We’ll find out this weekend.

[Cripple Creek]

23 hours ago, DCOrange said:

And since he's such a threat off the ball, his presence as point guard allows the ball to move a lot more rather than sticking to guys' hands.

 

 

That's a very good point.  He's not someone the defense can slough off of which can open up the wings.

[DCOrange]

11 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Isn’t it interesting that there hasn’t been a 247 crystal ball prediction for Isaiah Jackson since 10/22?  His people are really holding this very tight to the vest.  I keep hearing Kentucky lean but Syracuse is still “in it.”

 

We’ll find out this weekend.

 

I can't remember a more tight-lipped recruitment than this one. I know at least as of a few days ago, our coaching staff thought we were in a good position for him, but it's been radio silent ever since, and my other connections say they haven't heard anything in weeks. I don't really know what to think. I'm assuming he isn't coming here just to not get my hopes up, but if I were the optimistic type:

1. Nate Oats made some public comments the other day that seemed to imply his 2020 recruiting efforts were all for naught and that 2021 was the bigger priority. He also recently went to visit at least one other big man prospect, which could mean he doesn't think Isaiah is going there.
2. It seems like we usually know well in advance when Kentucky is expecting a commitment and that obviously isn't the case here. They too have been focusing on other big men (but then again, it's Kentucky...they try to get as many guys as humanly possible every year).

I also keep coming back to the fact that we had basically given up on Isaiah and then he reached out to us to express that he was very interested in coming here. I think we have a better chance than the media is giving us credit for (which is a 0% chance), but again, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll continue to assume he isn't coming here until I hear otherwise.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

7 hours ago, DCOrange said:

 

I can't remember a more tight-lipped recruitment than this one. I know at least as of a few days ago, our coaching staff thought we were in a good position for him, but it's been radio silent ever since, and my other connections say they haven't heard anything in weeks. I don't really know what to think. I'm assuming he isn't coming here just to not get my hopes up, but if I were the optimistic type:

1. Nate Oats made some public comments the other day that seemed to imply his 2020 recruiting efforts were all for naught and that 2021 was the bigger priority. He also recently went to visit at least one other big man prospect, which could mean he doesn't think Isaiah is going there.
2. It seems like we usually know well in advance when Kentucky is expecting a commitment and that obviously isn't the case here. They too have been focusing on other big men (but then again, it's Kentucky...they try to get as many guys as humanly possible every year).

I also keep coming back to the fact that we had basically given up on Isaiah and then he reached out to us to express that he was very interested in coming here. I think we have a better chance than the media is giving us credit for (which is a 0% chance), but again, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll continue to assume he isn't coming here until I hear otherwise.

 

Great analysis here.  And very consistent with what I’m hearing from people in the know.  My main guy who is almost always right is getting tired of me texting him for Isaiah updates, finally responded yesterday after he got back from Hawaii ?

 

“Dude, I have no idea.  Honestly.  No one does.  The only thing I’ve heard is that the coaching staff legit feels like they have a chance.”  

 

This is is a strange recruitment.  I’ll cross my fingers, as IJ would be a huge get for this program.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Great analysis here.  And very consistent with what I’m hearing from people in the know.  My main guy who is almost always right is getting tired of me texting him for Isaiah updates, finally responded yesterday after he got back from Hawaii ?

 

“Dude, I have no idea.  Honestly.  No one does.  The only thing I’ve heard is that the coaching staff legit feels like they have a chance.”  

 

This is is a strange recruitment.  I’ll cross my fingers, as IJ would be a huge get for this program.

Super tight lipped recruitment

 

And UK has a few big men in 2020 class....

 

Silently optimistic

[DCOrange]

Isaiah’s dad interviewed with someone. Long story short, he said he (father) liked Syracuse and Kentucky and that Isaiah liked Alabama and Kentucky. That doesn’t sound good at all. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

12 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Isaiah’s dad interviewed with someone. Long story short, he said he (father) liked Syracuse and Kentucky and that Isaiah liked Alabama and Kentucky. That doesn’t sound good at all. 

 

If Isaiah’s Dad is anything like Taurean Thompson’s Mom, we have a 50/50 chance ?

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Welp....Kentucky it is ?‍♂️

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

33 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Welp....Kentucky it is ?‍♂️

oh well. I never got my hopes up. Wasn’t ready to get emotionally burned like I did with Nerlens Noel. 

[Buffalo716]

Carey is 100% gonna transfer