YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Might Rather Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 He"s a sure tackler also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Yeah, I’m not worried about TE at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 One of the great TBD "too soon" over reactions was worrying about a 20 Y/O MLB looking lost. Once the game really slows down for him, and he's not thinking so much, we'll have ouselves a damn good player. He'll be hitting his prime at 24 Y/O... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: One of the great TBD "too soon" over reactions was worrying about a 20 Y/O MLB looking lost. Once the game really slows down for him, and he's not thinking so much, we'll have ouselves a damn good player. He'll be hitting his prime at 24 Y/O... Just as the rookie contract comes to its conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Just as the rookie contract comes to its conclusion. That doesn't mean he won't be good until then. He very well could be a pro bowler player well before his rookie contract is up. And how is that any different than any other player in the league? I'll tell you: he will be 2-3 years younger than those other players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: That doesn't mean he won't be good until then. He very well could be a pro bowler player well before his rookie contract is up. And how is that any different than any other player in the league? I'll tell you: he will be 2-3 years younger than those other players. I think you miss the point. His age does not matter. It will only make him more attractive to other teams (or more expensive to the Bills when the rookie contract is up). You get a rookie for the life of the rookie contract, whether he is 20 or 23 at the start does not change that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It's the same for all players and in all positions. Teams hold on to a few of the draft picks from four years ago, the ones they really want to keep. This year it looks like the keepers (past the end of the rookie contracts) will be Allen, Edmunds, and maybe Harrison. How many from the past few drafts will they want to keep? White, Milano, Dawkins...? This dismal drafting performance will be good news in a couple of years when the Bills are able to let most of their subpar players walk, if they can get good offers elsewhere, or stay for low-end veteran contracts. Teams that drafted better than Buffalo will have a much harder time keeping all their players moving off their rookie contracts. The real crunch will start when the accumulated keeper players from several drafts in a row, all get to the new contract point at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Definite potential to be even better than Talley or Conlan were, based on what he brings to the table with his physical skillset--pair that with maturing linebacking smarts, and there's no ceiling for this guy anytime soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Utah John said: It's the same for all players and in all positions. Teams hold on to a few of the draft picks from four years ago, the ones they really want to keep. This year it looks like the keepers (past the end of the rookie contracts) will be Allen, Edmunds, and maybe Harrison. How many from the past few drafts will they want to keep? White, Milano, Dawkins...? This dismal drafting performance will be good news in a couple of years when the Bills are able to let most of their subpar players walk, if they can get good offers elsewhere, or stay for low-end veteran contracts. Teams that drafted better than Buffalo will have a much harder time keeping all their players moving off their rookie contracts. The real crunch will start when the accumulated keeper players from several drafts in a row, all get to the new contract point at the same time. Dismal? 2017- 3/6 good to great to awesome starters Tre Dawkins Milano 2018- Allen Edmunds Phillips Johnson Neal Are all players that have had an impact already, and I'm not even counting Ray-Ray. That is a lot of solid players. Better than a lot of other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: I think you miss the point. His age does not matter. It will only make him more attractive to other teams (or more expensive to the Bills when the rookie contract is up). You get a rookie for the life of the rookie contract, whether he is 20 or 23 at the start does not change that fact. Got ya. Not that big a deal to me, though. If you're trying to build through the draft, and he turns out to be an integral piece to success, pay the man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: One of the great TBD "too soon" over reactions was worrying about a 20 Y/O MLB looking lost. Once the game really slows down for him, and he's not thinking so much, we'll have ouselves a damn good player. He'll be hitting his prime at 24 Y/O... I also think an off season of adding about 20 pounds of muscle will make a huge difference too. You hear that all the time about rookies, they come in their first season too weak. It's even more compounded here as he's only 20 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The guy really looks like an athletic freak of nature out there. I don't think we have ever had a cover mlb like him and watching him develop will be a thing of beauty. The defense really is coming together if we could just get something consistent on the other side of the ball i think we can at least be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Edmunds has looked better every single time he's stepped on the field. That's what you want to see from a rookie. Zero worries about this kid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) .....and I found a shiny nickel on the sidewalk today Coach Frazier. Yes son, things are looking good. Edited October 2, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 He's really benefitted from having Allen drafted the same year. Fans would have been going nuts calling him a bust (the media too) if he'd been our only first rounder. Allen has pretty much soaked up all the attention and Edmunds has pretty much been left to just develop at his own pace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Just as the rookie contract comes to its conclusion. He will be extended if he’s good. No question... unlesss they find a hidden gem elsewhere. They will build the d around him a la keukley Edited October 2, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: Got ya. Not that big a deal to me, though. If you're trying to build through the draft, and he turns out to be an integral piece to success, pay the man. the thing that sucks is if Allen is the real deal, we have the Derek Carr , Khalil Mack situation , where you just can't afford both. It may not make sense to trade up for two first rounders in the same draft for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Edmunds showing steady improvement. Wait until he fills out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I also think an off season of adding about 20 pounds of muscle will make a huge difference too. You hear that all the time about rookies, they come in their first season too weak. It's even more compounded here as he's only 20 years old. 20 lbs of muscle is asking a lot IMO, but a year of NFL conditioning makes a difference. 11 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: the thing that sucks is if Allen is the real deal, we have the Derek Carr , Khalil Mack situation , where you just can't afford both. It may not make sense to trade up for two first rounders in the same draft for this reason. Maybe, but a good GM makes it work. The Raiders really botched the whole Mack situation, and I doubt Edmunds will command #1 edge rusher money at MLB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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