Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: They won't cut him. They will just start the Allen era. I don't think he will toss 2 picks in 3 series. But if he does, then he will know he won't be Tom Brady, and that's ok. Neither was Peyton Manning.... Maybe not. But Chan cut Trent as soon as he knew he couldn't play in the regular season. Three games in. I don't think he is going to throw two picks early either. A very small chance. But he might. And if it's a pick six because he can't throw an out pattern, he's done. So there is pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Maybe not. But Chan cut Trent as soon as he knew he couldn't play in the regular season. Three games in. I don't think he is going to throw two picks early either. A very small chance. But he might. And if it's a pick six because he can't throw an out pattern, he's done. So there is pressure. OK, pressure not to have a historically bad repeat performance of his last one lol. If he's worried about that, he's cooked already. Just get the rookie out there. The fact that this conversation even has to exist is just nuts, in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Sure but I'm guessing before the game you wouldn't have thought he could make that play, but he did. And same goes for the pass to Kerley on an out route. That was the one that really surprised me. It got to him in plenty of time and right where it needed to be. We all know Peterman's arm is relatively weak by NFL standards but I'm not convinced it's too weak to make the plays that count. Yep. That's the whole thing. It's either not enough or just enough. If it's just enough he can be a decent player. I haven't seen it yet. Hopefully Sunday I will. That pass to Reilly was the second best pass he ever threw as a Bill. Really good. The best was last preseason when he threw a perfect pass over defenders about 20 yards downfield right at the sidelines, maybe also to Reilly. Great, great pass. But it wasn't any arm strength indicator. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: OK, pressure not to have a historically bad repeat performance of his last one lol. If he's worried about that, he's cooked already. Just get the rookie out there. The fact that this conversation even has to exist is just nuts, in my opinion. Agreed. And he's cooked already. He shouldn't even be playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: or...he is a good kid with physical limitations that has been working his @$$ off to be the best he can be and try to win this job with all the odds against him. Or...he is just another in a long line of not quite good enough to make it/barely good enough to make a roster-guys, that have passed through the training camps of the NFL for decades. It's nice that he works hard, says all the right things etc...yay. Edited September 7, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: It was 18 yards in the air with no one really near Benjamin. Good pass, right on the money, but not long and not difficult. Come on give him his due. That was a nice pass right on the money with a safety over and a cornerback under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Come on give him his due. That was a nice pass right on the money with a safety over and a cornerback under. WTF?! On an 18 yard pass in the air, to a wide open KB, you B word and say, "Give him his due"- responding to me saying - "Good pass, right on the money but it wasn't that long and not difficult" with you saying "nice pass, right on the money with a safety and corner under." Which wasn't really true, of course. The CB wasn't close to him and the safety was running over but didn't even get there in time to stop him from running untouched ten yards into the endzone. Edited September 7, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Gray Beard said: I bet one of the first few plays will be a long pass. Probably to a well covered receiver along the sideline on third and short. I guess the question to this would be would prefer this on 3rd and short or a dump off on 3rd and long? I'd honestly prefer he take the chance since they would probably be covering the super short routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 4 hours ago, ScottLaw said: What receiver on this team is stretching the field? They have 0 speed at the position. KB could for sure because even if he's not open, he's open. Besides, you don't needBob Hayes out there to throw a few bombs. I've seen them caught by slow guys. DBs will always respect the long ball. Getting beat deep looks real bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: We have seen repeatedly that the line can not hold up for more than one second much less 3, josh allen has the greatest arm i have seen in a long time but he is not going to get a chance with our line. i think the line will be better in the regular season. Don't think they'll be near as bad and should be able to provide some protection. Whoever is back there won't be able to hold onto the football too long or it will be Sack City. If they both do their job we should be ok IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: From all of his preseason play from last year, his regular season appearances and his preseason this year Was the ability to throw over the top of a defense to keep them honest... yes a quick rhythm passing game is nice, but it’s only effective for so long if you cannot stretch the Defense even Fitz attempted and has pushed the ball downfield, with success and failure eventually CBs and Safeties will sit on the underneath routes and jam up passing lanes if Peterman shows he will not throw downfield Hopefully he takes some calculated shots downfield this Sunday to Benjamin and Company to open up some room for Shady, ivory and Murphy If he can’t keep the defence honest we will see a lot of picks on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Peterman has a weak arm, but at least this early in the season weather is a non factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: No it's not! If he goes to the bench then he will be going back to the bench. He was brought in as a backup QB. He will still be one. Realistically, how long would you hold onto a backup QB that every time you put him in he throws picks? 3 hours ago, OJ Tom said: Or...he is just another in a long line of not quite good enough to make it/barely good enough to make a roster-guys, that have passed through the training camps of the NFL for decades. It's nice that he works hard, says all the right things etc...yay. NEVER confuse effort with success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: What ball on the first drive traveled 30+ yards in the air? I don’t recall The ball traveled around 17 yards In the air on a Benjamin TD... doesn’t really qualify as a deep ball QB's rarely throw over 30 yards. That's why arm strength is overrated. It's all about timing and accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: QB's rarely throw over 30 yards. That's why arm strength is overrated. It's all about timing and accuracy. Untrue. If you cannot throw a dart 15 yards on an out, you cannot play successfully in this league. And Nate has yet to show that he can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Untrue. If you cannot throw a dart 15 yards on an out, you cannot play successfully in this league. And Nate has yet to show that he can. Dart? This just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: QB's rarely throw over 30 yards. That's why arm strength is overrated. It's all about timing and accuracy. I would not say rarely and arm strength is not overrated Kellen Moore would be a very good QB if he had better arm strength... he has all the timing and accuracy you want Aaron Rodgers has used his arm strength to his advantage his whole career A good QB throws 30+ yards downfield atleast a few times a game. I have yet to see Peterman do it in a live game yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Dart? This just isn't true. It's absolutely true. Peterman lacks the arm to get the ball all the way across the field on even short passes, with CBs coming hard on the ball. Twice in preseason he did this and the CB dropped a pick six. The last time we saw him last year he did it and the CB intercepted in the playoff game. It's inarguable that is one of his downfalls and if he proves he can make that throw he can succeed, and if he shows what he has shown so far he is dead man walking. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I would not say rarely and arm strength is not overrated Kellen Moore would be a very good QB if he had better arm strength... he has all the timing and accuracy you want Aaron Rodgers has used his arm strength to his advantage his whole career A good QB throws 30+ yards downfield atleast a few times a game. I have yet to see Peterman do it in a live game yet Exactly. He cannot or has not shown he can throw it on a line 20 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's absolutely true. Peterman lacks the arm to get the ball all the way across the field on even short passes, with CBs coming hard on the ball. Twice in preseason he did this and the CB dropped a pick six. The last time we saw him last year he did it and the CB intercepted in the playoff game. It's inarguable that is one of his downfalls and if he proves he can make that throw he can succeed, and if he shows what he has shown so far he is dead man walking. Exactly. He cannot or has not shown he can throw it on a line 20 yards. He made poor reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: He made poor reads. They are not poor reads at all if the ball gets there quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Big C said: This is my biggest concern about Peterman. The field is much smaller. But it is odd that I haven't seen a single deep ball from him. I don't even remember reading about one in practice. Maybe because we don’t really have much speed ( WR ‘s ) to go deep in the first place ?? Edited September 7, 2018 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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