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Josh Allen- One thing we can all agree on?

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Everyone has their options on the QB’s. Who should start. That’s all fine and dandy.

 

But can we all agree that watching Josh Allen rip the football is just a very nice thing to see. 

 

I mean. I feel like, just over two games. You could compile Josh Allen highlights and prescribe it as anti-depressants. 

 

No matter how much you want NP to start. I feel like Josh Allen highlight throws. (Especially deep outs) should make us all warm and fuzzy inside. Can we agree on that?

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3 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

Everyone has their options on the QB’s. Who should start. That’s all fine and dandy.

 

But can we all agree that watching Josh Allen rip the football is just a very nice thing to see. 

 

I mean. I feel like, just over two games. You could compile Josh Allen highlights and prescribe it as anti-depressants. 

 

No matter how much you want NP to start. I feel like Josh Allen highlight throws. (Especially deep outs) should make us all warm and fuzzy inside. Can we agree on that?

Besides Saviorpeterman, who badly wants Peterman to start?

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12 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Besides Saviorpeterman, who badly wants Peterman to start?

Nate Peterman.

 

Maybe they are the same?

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Maybe, more Importantly, we can all agree that Josh Allen seems to be making progress in his overall development?  Whether this means that he is the starter on opening day, who knows, but at least there is support for the optimism that he really has the potential to develop into a quality starting QB (or better) for the Bills. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

I don't agree to that...

 

Awe man how come?

26 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Besides Saviorpeterman, who badly wants Peterman to start?

His mother would also fall into this category.

Any siblings or relatives.

 

The Baltimore Ravens. Joey Bosa.

 

Theres like 3 more.

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It’s incredible seeing how hot those balls come in and how far he can throw it. 

 

Between Cam, Mahomes, Allen and Stafford on best arm in the league. I think Allen has them beat.

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43 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Besides Saviorpeterman, who badly wants Peterman to start?

 

BullBuchannon has been trying to have a baby with NP as badly as SaviorPeterman

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14 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

It’s incredible seeing how hot those balls come in and how far he can throw it. 

 

Between Cam, Mahomes, Allen and Stafford on best arm in the league. I think Allen has them beat.

 

Yup now we just need consistency. Been very nice to see NP with a high completion percentage. He’s an adequate backup option. But JA is just a nightmare to contain. Very cool to see Gregg Williams force him to throw short-mid and he was hitting short-mid taking what he had.

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10 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes...

 

Boom. Roasted 

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I've noticed that, too.  It seems like anytime Josh Allen eyes a receiver that he is going to throw to, within 15 yds say, the time from when the ball leaves his hand until the time it reaches the receiver is almost instantaneous.  It is truly a thing of beauty.  Nate's throws to the sideline, within 10 yds, seem to just hang in the air, just waiting to be turned into a pick 6.  Just my observation.

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The thing that gets me about Allen's throws is the crazy flat trajectory of them.  Most QB's need to put a bit of arc or loft on the ball to get it down the field over twenty yards.  Allen's passes come out of his hand moving at Mach 2.3 and just travel in a straight line to the receiver.  When I watch those passes it almost looks like an optical illusion.  Sometimes the ball gets there so quickly that the DB, who is in good position to defend the pass, doesn't even have a chance to make a play on the ball.  It's like Allen handed off the ball to the receiver twenty yards down the field.

 

Inconceivable!  

 

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50 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

 

Awe man how come?

His mother would also fall into this category.

Any siblings or relatives.

 

The Baltimore Ravens. Joey Bosa.

 

Theres like 3 more.

Sean McDermott, Brian Daboll

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19 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

The thing that gets me about Allen's throws is the crazy flat trajectory of them.  Most QB's need to put a bit of arc or loft on the ball to get it down the field over twenty yards.  Allen's passes come out of his hand moving at Mach 2.3 and just travel in a straight line to the receiver.  When I watch those passes it almost looks like an optical illusion.  Sometimes the ball gets there so quickly that the DB, who is in good position to defend the pass, doesn't even have a chance to make a play on the ball.  It's like Allen handed off the ball to the receiver twenty yards down the field.

 

Inconceivable...   

 

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46 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

I've noticed that, too.  It seems like anytime Josh Allen eyes a receiver that he is going to throw to, within 15 yds say, the time from when the ball leaves his hand until the time it reaches the receiver is almost instantaneous.  It is truly a thing of beauty.  Nate's throws to the sideline, within 10 yds, seem to just hang in the air, just waiting to be turned into a pick 6.  Just my observation.

 

While at camp this was obvious to me as well. They would have drills where two QBs drop back at the same time release the ball at the same time and Joshs ball is a clear step ahead.

 

Allen's arm is a breath of fresh air BUT..

 

The reason I would like to wait to start him is to see what the supporting cast looks like going up against Baltimore, Minnesota, and the LA Chargers. Then he is only started after it is clear that peterman is not a franchise QB against those A+ Ds, shielding Allen from some early bumps and bruises and lowering expectations for the offense to a floor. If peterman Balls there is no reason to rush Allen out there.

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1 hour ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes...

:devil:

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Superior arm strength is nice but not in the top 3 QB needs.  Intelligence, accuracy, poise, leadership, pocket awareness, and athleticism are also on the list with arm strength about in the middle.  

 

The issue with NP is he doesn't even have an average arm.  He can't play in the NFL with his arm just like Losman couldn't play with his lack of intelligence.  Can he be a suitable back-up and execute a run heavy dink and dunk offense for a game or two?  For sure.  But that is not sustainable.

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I never wanted and will never want to watch Peterman play a game for this team. 

 

I'm seeing more and more of these posts about these Nathan Peterman people, yet I never see them anymore. That said, the new guy who hasn't failed you yet is always more popular than the guy who has.

 

A lot of you had Watkins being replaced by Zay, and Tyrod by Peterman. And you idiots who believed that, don't have to own it, but you did and you were wrong.

 

But anyways, I do think Allen should play. I wasn't big on the pick, but he has shown that potential.

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I like Buffalover4life 's position, Let Peterman go the first few weeks. 

 

Let Allen learn the nuts and bolts process of how an NFL game week / game day works.  Let him see how Daboll installs a game plan for the upcoming game.  Give him a chance to see how the offense breaks down film on the opposing defense.  Let him see all the hoopla of opening weekend on the road and the spectacle of a few real NFL games before you ask him to go out there and run the offense.   Give him a few weeks to get used to all that and then ease him in week four. 

 

That also gets him past three meat grinder defenses.  I don't think anyone wants to see Peterman / Chargers Part II for Allen.  We need to do everything we can to maximize his chance of being a long term successful quarterback. If it turns out that our O-Line is a turnstile, do you really want him out there at all until the O Line has a few games to gel and get their act together?

 

If holding Allen back and starting Peterman means losing the first three games of the season to set Allen up for future success, I'm ok with that. We've been waiting twenty years for a franchise QB in Buffalo, I can wait three more games.  Other's may disagree, but that's my opinion.  I'm not in the Peterman camp, I personally think Allen is better, but I am in the camp of giving Allen the best shot to be successful and I think that means easing him into the starting lineup this season.  

 

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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

BullBuchannon has been trying to have a baby with NP as badly as SaviorPeterman

 

When you can't even spell my name correctly, when you can see it right there, it should give folks a lot of pause about your ability to break down any more complicated subject.

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3 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

Besides Saviorpeterman, who badly wants Peterman to start?

 

BurpleBull and BullBuchanon, too... 

 

but all 3 are probably just the same poster...

 

So good point! :thumbsup:

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