John Brennan's Security Clearance

[TakeYouToTasker]

4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

This post is the truth.

 

This little post had roast beef.

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

This little post had roast beef.

And this little post had none.

[boyst]

24 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

This little post had roast beef.

Where is Jessie slaughter????

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

14 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

And this little post had none.

 

And this little post went "wee wee wee wee" all the way home?

 

[row_33]

21 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

And this little post went "wee wee wee wee" all the way home?

 

 

wee wee wee wee all down his leg

 

[Tiberius]

 

 

What a joke Bolton is...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/08/20/john-bolton-and-gop-senators-are-enabling-trumps-attacks-on-dissent/?utm_term=.27ddb20f75bd

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BOLTON: Well, you know, I think Senator Richard Burr, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, whom I don’t think anybody could excuse of being a gofer for the Trump administration, had some very trenchant observations on Brennan’s behavior since he left with CIA, and I think also on his behavior while he was at the CIA. It was my view at the time that he and others in the Obama administration were politicizing intelligence. I think that’s a very dangerous thing to do.

And I think especially for senior intelligence officials, career intelligence officials who come out of the government, to keep that wall of separation between intelligence policy. And I don’t think Brennan has follow that and, you know, whether he actually used classified information, I think people will be able to determine. But I think that’s a serious problem.

MARTHA RADDATZ: Are there any specific examples that you think he used classified intelligence…

BOLTON: No, but I think there is a …

RADDATZ: … to politicize?

BOLTON: There is a line and somebody can cross it. I know from my own experience in the Bush administration after I left, I was accused by a senior State Department official of criticizing the administration’s policy on North Korea and using classified information.

And it happened he was half right, I was criticizing the Bush administration, but I was not using classified information. Had I been, it would have been a different story.

RADDATZ: I assume that John Brennan says the same thing, that he didn’t use classified information. You — would you have been fine if President Obama had revoked your security clearance for criticizing him, which you did frequently?

BOLTON: No, because I didn’t use classified information there either. I say there’s a line and I think it’s clear some people can cross it.

RADDATZ: But let me be clear here, you’re not sure whether John Brennan used classified information? You have no specific examples.

BOLTON: In terms of what he said since he left, I think a number of people have commented that he couldn’t be in the position he’s in of criticizing President Trump and his so-called collusion with Russia unless he did use classified information.

But I don’t know the specifics. What I do know is when he was director of CIA, I was very troubled by his conduct, by statements he made in public, and by what I thought was his politicization of the intelligence community.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

Hissy fits as national security policy! 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

[Buffalo_Gal]

Politicians gotta politic...
 

 

[outsidethebox]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

He looks like a miserable pos.

[keepthefaith]

On 8/17/2018 at 11:14 PM, Thurmal34 said:

 

I’m sure you are correct. Not worth any further discourse. 

 

Hope the Bills have a solid season this year, gotta be encouraged by Allen tonight!

 

 The point about free speech isn’t  about what he disclosed (nothing) it’s that he spoke up against the current adminstration. 

 

It’s retaliatory, like so much of this thin skinned administration’s behavior. Softest humans to ever govern.

 

Shouldn’t we be talking about Wilbur Ross?

 

As far as I know nobody has snipped off Brennan's fingers or applied duct tape to his mouth.  He's chirping just as much now as when he had a clearance.  Don't see any freedom of speech implications here. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, westside said:

He looks like a miserable pos.

 

Some of the more enjoyable parts of the past two years for me has been hearing all the invectives said about the man by people who worked with him or under him. A "poncy academic with a predilection for !@#$ing up already !@#$ed up situations" was one of the favorite quotes I got about the guy from someone who used to brief him.  

 

His interview with Maddow over the weekend is worth a watch, if only to see him slurring his words (he was on something during that interview). 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

As far as I know nobody has snipped off Brennan's fingers or applied duct tape to his mouth.  He's chirping just as much now as when he had a clearance.  Don't see any freedom of speech implications here. 

You'd think his attorney would have told him to shut up. Maybe the attorney has, and "John Brennan knows best."  It would certainly fit his profile.

[Koko78]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

You'd think his attorney would have told him to shut up. Maybe the attorney has, and "John Brennan knows best."  It would certainly fit his profile.

 

Well, that would fit in with the description:

 

25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 A "poncy academic with a predilection for !@#$ing up already !@#$ed up situations"

 

[LaDexter]

And the same tired BS argument keeps being made....

 

we "know" Russia "meddled" in the election - how so?  Our INTEL tells us so....

 

we "know" Brennan is a great guy - how so? Our INTEL tells us so...

 

All these wonderful intel people standing behind Brennan....

 

"Odd how quiet Wyden has now become given he called out Brennan for spying on the senate committee investigating the CIA a few years ago. Where is he now? "

 

 

and apparently spying on our elected officials is "good" according to Brennan's supporters, including those who dumped a plastic head in the ocean claiming it was bin Laden....

 

I say our INTEL is 100% full of **** and has been since 1993....

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

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Sharyl Attkisson

✔ @SharylAttkisson

 

One doesn't cancel out the other necessarily. Funny though that he criticizes Trump's tweets then excuses his own histrionics as being Irish and unable to control himself. Don't you agree?

10:56 PM - Aug 19, 2018

 

 

 

 

[keepthefaith]

2 hours ago, westside said:

He looks like a miserable pos.

 

He's got short man's disease for sure. 

[Nanker]

He looks like he takes it in the azz and likes it. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

22 minutes ago, Nanker said:

He looks like he takes it in the azz and likes it. 

 

I like this new, extra salty Nanker.

 

Keep it up.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Now we'll see if John has any testicular fortitude... 

 

(Oh wait, we already know the answer to that... he's a coward of the highest order)

[B-Man]

Pulling Their Clearances Is Only the Start – It’s Time to Stamp out Elite Privilege

 

Help, I’m being oppressed! My freedom of speech was been utterly stripped from me because when I retired from the Army those fascist monsters took away my TOP SECRET security clearance. See, a security clearance is a special privilege I should be entitled to exploit for as long as I want to because… well, shut up peasant, that’s why. I learned this in my Con Law class, right after we studied the Constitution’s text enumerating the rights to abortion, wedding cake baking servitude, and to be called by the bizarre pronoun of your – I mean “xir” – choice.

 

Oh wait, all of that – except the giving up my clearance part – is utter nonsense.

 

But John Brennan, that hack, and his elite pals are supposed to get the special privilege of keeping it. Why? As a professional courtesy. See, security clearances are things you pass out as favors or rewards, I guess, at least among the elite. Courtesy among them, nothing for you, though. You aren’t special. You’re just some guy serving his country and not turning it into a profit center on the outside. Like a sucker.

 

I got my clearance for the same reason you readers who got one got yours –because I needed it to do my job in the service of our country. And when I stopped needing it because I was no longer doing a job in the service of my country, I didn’t get to keep it to inflate my value as a pundit or “consultant.” Mine went away. As did yours, I’ll wager. The chances are pretty infinitesimal that you are one of the special somebodies who get handed power and privilege not to serve our country but as a perk for being part of the in-crowd.

 

Being a colonel was just a job for me, and doing what you did was just a job for you. But for a lot of these retired generals and senior bureaucrat timeservers, it’s a lifestyle. I always saw my eagle as leased; they think they hold the pink slip on their positions. Oh, and do they ever have contempt for Normals like you.

 

Security clearances get pulled routinely when the holder no longer needs access because the fewer people with access, the safer the info is – pretty basic stuff. But hey, we’ll take the chance on classified info spilling if it means elite jerks can get to bask in the warm light of being In The Know. It’s not like any of our betters ever got caught up in classified info shenanigans. Not Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit. Not that Towering Doofus James Comey. Not David Petreaus. And not his mistress.

 

Oh, wait – all of them totally did. But, of course, these elite malefactors are all in jail, because you or I would be if we did what they did. Aren’t they?

Oh, right. They aren’t. They’re special. More professional courtesy. More special rules for special people.

 

{snip}

 

The liberals are right about something – privilege is destroying our country. But it’s not privilege based on what hellhole your great-great-great grandfather escaped from or the kind of biological plumbing you were born with. It is privilege based on your membership in a selfish, feckless, unaccomplished caste of schmucks that fancies itself our betters yet rejects, with the help of a complicit liberal press, any kind of accountability for the mess it’s made of everything.

 

You know why you got Trump? Because Donald Trump, with all his quirks, is exponentially more competent, capable, and trustworthy when it comes to running this country for the benefit of Normal Americans than the sorry collection of Ivy League-credentialed dimwits, progressive poohbahs, and Fredocon enablers that masquerades as America’s elite.

 

Pull their security clearances? Yeah, but that’s just a start. Strip them of all of the privileges they haven’t earned, then ship the whole useless bunch of them off to a desert island and see if they can survive eating their own smugness.

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/08/20/pulling-their-clearances-is-only-the-start--its-time-to-stamp-out-elite-privilege-n2511233

[boyst]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

Pulling Their Clearances Is Only the Start – It’s Time to Stamp out Elite Privilege

 

Help, I’m being oppressed! My freedom of speech was been utterly stripped from me because when I retired from the Army those fascist monsters took away my TOP SECRET security clearance. See, a security clearance is a special privilege I should be entitled to exploit for as long as I want to because… well, shut up peasant, that’s why. I learned this in my Con Law class, right after we studied the Constitution’s text enumerating the rights to abortion, wedding cake baking servitude, and to be called by the bizarre pronoun of your – I mean “xir” – choice.

 

Oh wait, all of that – except the giving up my clearance part – is utter nonsense.

 

But John Brennan, that hack, and his elite pals are supposed to get the special privilege of keeping it. Why? As a professional courtesy. See, security clearances are things you pass out as favors or rewards, I guess, at least among the elite. Courtesy among them, nothing for you, though. You aren’t special. You’re just some guy serving his country and not turning it into a profit center on the outside. Like a sucker.

 

I got my clearance for the same reason you readers who got one got yours –because I needed it to do my job in the service of our country. And when I stopped needing it because I was no longer doing a job in the service of my country, I didn’t get to keep it to inflate my value as a pundit or “consultant.” Mine went away. As did yours, I’ll wager. The chances are pretty infinitesimal that you are one of the special somebodies who get handed power and privilege not to serve our country but as a perk for being part of the in-crowd.

 

Being a colonel was just a job for me, and doing what you did was just a job for you. But for a lot of these retired generals and senior bureaucrat timeservers, it’s a lifestyle. I always saw my eagle as leased; they think they hold the pink slip on their positions. Oh, and do they ever have contempt for Normals like you.

 

Security clearances get pulled routinely when the holder no longer needs access because the fewer people with access, the safer the info is – pretty basic stuff. But hey, we’ll take the chance on classified info spilling if it means elite jerks can get to bask in the warm light of being In The Know. It’s not like any of our betters ever got caught up in classified info shenanigans. Not Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit. Not that Towering Doofus James Comey. Not David Petreaus. And not his mistress.

 

Oh, wait – all of them totally did. But, of course, these elite malefactors are all in jail, because you or I would be if we did what they did. Aren’t they?

Oh, right. They aren’t. They’re special. More professional courtesy. More special rules for special people.

 

{snip}

 

The liberals are right about something – privilege is destroying our country. But it’s not privilege based on what hellhole your great-great-great grandfather escaped from or the kind of biological plumbing you were born with. It is privilege based on your membership in a selfish, feckless, unaccomplished caste of schmucks that fancies itself our betters yet rejects, with the help of a complicit liberal press, any kind of accountability for the mess it’s made of everything.

 

You know why you got Trump? Because Donald Trump, with all his quirks, is exponentially more competent, capable, and trustworthy when it comes to running this country for the benefit of Normal Americans than the sorry collection of Ivy League-credentialed dimwits, progressive poohbahs, and Fredocon enablers that masquerades as America’s elite.

 

Pull their security clearances? Yeah, but that’s just a start. Strip them of all of the privileges they haven’t earned, then ship the whole useless bunch of them off to a desert island and see if they can survive eating their own smugness.

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/08/20/pulling-their-clearances-is-only-the-start--its-time-to-stamp-out-elite-privilege-n2511233

Well....that's pretty awesome

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Koko78]

23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Hard to contrast yourself with Trump and pretend that you're the adult in the room when you're mewling like a petulant child.

[Tommy Callahan]

OBAMA, Holder, Clinton, Kerry, Lynch, Geithner all should have them removed.

 

And in turn. Trump and his crew should have them removed when they leave office.

 

 

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

OBAMA, Holder, Clinton, Kerry, Lynch, Geithner all should have them removed.

 

And in turn. Trump and his crew should have them removed when they leave office.

 

 

 

Oh good.  A new ignorant moron.  

 

Don't forget to TYPE random words IN CAPITAL letters to MAKE your point.

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Oh good.  A new ignorant moron.  

 

Don't forget to TYPE random words IN CAPITAL letters to MAKE your point.

How Is that ignorant.

 

its a courtesy that they are able to keep it, and in turn all profit from it.  that's new and not a good thing.

 

WHY is that a bad IDEA.

 

or are you just a typical troll that goes ad hominin cause they cant articulate a response.

 

 

 

 

[DC Tom]

Just now, Chris farley said:

How Is that ignorant.

 

its a courtesy that they are able to keep it, and in turn all profit from it.  that's new and not a good thing.

 

WHY is that a bad IDEA.

 

or are you just a typical troll that goes ad hominin cause they cant articulate a response.

 

 

 

 

 

Because it's been discussed here already, and you come tromping in with an empty statement that ignores any and all previous conversation.  Read more, post less.

 

I'm just going to block you until you learn that.  Enough morons here that I don't need to waste my time with another.

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Because it's been discussed here already, and you come tromping in with an empty statement that ignores any and all previous conversation.  Read more, post less.

 

I'm just going to block you until you learn that.  Enough morons here that I don't need to waste my time with another.

LOL

 

so typical

 

Talk crap, add nothing, then block.

 

That's exactly how you create and stay in an echo chamber of ignorance.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Chris farley said:

LOL

 

so typical

 

Talk crap, add nothing, then block.

 

That's exactly how you create and stay in an echo chamber of ignorance.

 

 

 

You're new down here, which is great.

 

All Tom was suggesting, in his own particular way, was that new posters down here should take more time to read (as much as they can) of the threads they jump into. Threads veer off topic over dozens (or hundreds) of pages, more so down here than in the other parts of the board, so it helps to read more before posting to avoid either A) repeating/rehashing old information/debates or B) becoming an easy target for the posters here who like to pick on the new posters. 

 

Things are seldom what they appear to be down here in PPP, mainly because the most vocal posters enjoy snark and sarcasm. Take the time to learn who's who, it'll help you figure out the real posters from the trolls from the innocent lurkers.

[keepthefaith]

Maybe we'll learn publicly that many of the expert intelligence contributors on TV have it written into their contracts that they maintain a security clearance, so Trump taking it away hurts their paycheck. 

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You're new down here, which is great.

 

All Tom was suggesting, in his own particular way, was that new posters down here should take more time to read (as much as they can) of the threads they jump into. Threads veer off topic over dozens (or hundreds) of pages, more so down here than in the other parts of the board, so it helps to read more before posting to avoid either A) repeating/rehashing old information/debates or B) becoming an easy target for the posters here who like to pick on the new posters. 

 

Things are seldom what they appear to be down here in PPP, mainly because the most vocal posters enjoy snark and sarcasm. Take the time to learn who's who, it'll help you figure out the real posters from the trolls from the innocent lurkers.

 

Plus...we've had such a breathtakingly retarded crop of newbies come in and and less than nothing to any conversation that I'm done dealing with them.  

 

Newbies: post something of substance, or !@#$ off.  You don't get the benefit of the doubt.  You're soft-headed idiots until you prove otherwise.  Don't like it?  Blame the shitrockets that preceded you.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Plus...we've had such a breathtakingly retarded crop of newbies come in and and less than nothing to any conversation that I'm done dealing with them.  

 

Newbies: post something of substance, or !@#$ off.  You don't get the benefit of the doubt.  You're soft-headed idiots until you prove otherwise.  Don't like it?  Blame the shitrockets that preceded you.

 

[DC Tom]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Case in point: in about ten minutes, our new resident sea cucumber has made eleven posts about absolutely nothing. 

 

I mean, your posts may be batshit crazy, but at least you post content.

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

OBAMA, Holder, Clinton, Kerry, Lynch, Geithner all should have them removed.

 

And in turn. Trump and his crew should have them removed when they leave office.

 

 

Ok, I am going to play and assume your post is on the up-and-up.

Obama and Clinton will not lose their security clearances.  Former Presidents always retain them. And, apparently (this I did not know until @DC Tom mentioned it a few pages back (hence the "read a few pages")), first ladies maintain a lifetime clearance too. Kinda makes sense as you would assume spouses talk (although with Bill and Hillary, I have my doubts).

There are a number of trolls in this forum (block is your friend). They are constant hit-and-run "posters" leaving behind the stupidest of the MSM drivel. Some people feed off that interaction (as I've said before, the fights in PPP have fights). There are people here from the left who make good arguments, people here from the right that make good arguments, and people in the center who also make good arguments.  And,  there are people here from all three spectrums that spout the stupidest s#!% you've ever read.

If you continue on, I hope you will be a good participant and are not a troll. Take the advice earnestly given and spend some time reading a thread before hopping in. Many threads in this sub-forum contain great information about current events not commonly found on MSM headlines. 

Edited August 21, 2018 by Buffalo_Gal

[outsidethebox]

9 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Case in point: in about ten minutes, our new resident sea cucumber has made eleven posts about absolutely nothing. 

 

I mean, your posts may be batshit crazy, but at least you post content.

Oh my!!!

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Holy s%%# ? How can anyone be that delusional?  The guy who wrote that article has a Pulitzer (for "getting Trump, of course).  Looks like Pulitzer Prizes ain't what they used to be.

Adam Entous joined The New Yorker as a staff writer in 2018, covering intelligence, national security, and foreign affairs. While working at the Washington Post, Adam shared a Pulitzer Prize and a special Polk Award for stories that led to the firing of President Trump’s first national-security adviser and to the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate Russia’s role in the 2016 Presidential election.