Rob's House Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Does it bother you how quickly baseball brawls are broken up? When a guy charges the mound he's lucky to get more than a punch or 2 off before it's broken up. I say if you want to hum a 90+ mph pitch at a guy you should have to face the music. I watched a hockey game once where one guy smashed into another, the other guy decided to throw down, and everybody stood back and let them settle it like men. Why can't baseball players do that? I'm not suggesting an MMA match on the mound, but I am suggesting an unwritten rule by which the batter gets about 10 seconds to go at it before anyone jumps in. Who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Does it bother you how quickly baseball brawls are broken up? When a guy charges the mound he's lucky to get more than a punch or 2 off before it's broken up. I say if you want to hum a 90+ mph pitch at a guy you should have to face the music. I watched a hockey game once where one guy smashed into another, the other guy decided to throw down, and everybody stood back and let them settle it like men. Why can't baseball players do that? I'm not suggesting an MMA match on the mound, but I am suggesting an unwritten rule by which the batter gets about 10 seconds to go at it before anyone jumps in. Who's with me? Not a bad question, at all. Anytime someone charges the mound, the benches immediately clear. I'd be okay with good judgment being used. If Bryce Harper is charging the mound and I'm the opposing manager, I'm getting guys out there immediately. But if it's a fair matchup, I'd be cool with letting it go until one was clearly getting more licks in than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Not a bad question, at all. Anytime someone charges the mound, the benches immediately clear. I'd be okay with good judgment being used. If Bryce Harper is charging the mound and I'm the opposing manager, I'm getting guys out there immediately. But if it's a fair matchup, I'd be cool with letting it go until one was clearly getting more licks in than the other. Bryce Harper is a scrapper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I’m cool with letting them go for a little while, but let’s face it, sports are becoming increasing pussified every year. Hell, you barely even see any fights in hockey anymore. Suxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: Bryce Harper is a scrapper? He's a beast. Papelbon went at him, though (as teammates). That's when I decided I liked Papelbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 was there when George Bell karate-kicked Bruce Kison, leading to a great brawl Bill Buckner contributed by kicking the elderly Jays pitching coach when the old man was on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Nolan Ryan v Robin Ventura. Best baseball fight ever. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 With pitch limits etc. you expect a manager to expose his precious pitcher to possible injury? Never happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Baseball brawls have always been like that. The 1-on-1 fight only lasts a punch or 2 b/c by then, the whole thing has deteriorated into a wild melee with people tackling the belligerents to the ground and all hell breaking loose all around them. I wouldn't mind seeing 2 guys square off but that can cut both ways. Sometimes the guy you support in the fight is better off being saved by a crowd of teammates; sometimes you wish your guy could have finished business because he was enjoying a physical mismatch. I am a big Red Sox fan and any brawl involving Red Sox and Yankees is always coveted. One of my favorites in recent years was when A-Rod was yelling "F-YOU!" repeatedly to Jason Varitek's face until my boy Jason had enough, gave A-Rod an uppercut with his catcher's mitt still on, and then took him to the ground. That one was in Fenway as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 don't pitch like that to Mark Whiten, geez the Jays used to have good dustups out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Nolan Ryan v Robin Ventura. Best baseball fight ever. Ass. Whoopin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I've gotten into a benches clearing brawl and it's pretty scary. You don't realize in a group of people fighting, punches are literally being thrown everywhere. You don't know who to go after sometimes. I'm not against letting them fight more but 99.9% of the time, a baseball fight is hard to watch because they can't fight. I don't watch Hockey but those are entertaining fights because they actually know how to throw a proper punch. Watching baseball players or NBA players fight is most of the time an eye roller or comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Baseball brawls have always been like that. The 1-on-1 fight only lasts a punch or 2 b/c by then, the whole thing has deteriorated into a wild melee with people tackling the belligerents to the ground and all hell breaking loose all around them. I wouldn't mind seeing 2 guys square off but that can cut both ways. Sometimes the guy you support in the fight is better off being saved by a crowd of teammates; sometimes you wish your guy could have finished business because he was enjoying a physical mismatch. I am a big Red Sox fan and any brawl involving Red Sox and Yankees is always coveted. One of my favorites in recent years was when A-Rod was yelling "F-YOU!" repeatedly to Jason Varitek's face until my boy Jason had enough, gave A-Rod an uppercut with his catcher's mitt still on, and then took him to the ground. That one was in Fenway as I recall. I could not stand Varitek. But at that moment, I loved him with all my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Because baseball players are pussys. They embody the hold me back approach. Even when they straight rush to the mound they take a round about way there to insure that it gets broken up before it gets going. Then it is a bunch of pushing and pulling with few punches being thrown. Baseball "fights: get a huge eye roll from me as @Royale with Cheese said. They can't fight and are barely athletes (not discounting what they do as hitting in baseball is probably the hardest skill in pro sports). Very rarely does an actual brawl break out. https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/odor-bautista-rangers-blue-jays-brawls-bad-mlb-punches-thrown-051616 To the op question though, they should always be broken up. Some of these guys are 20+ million dollar investments. If they were allowed to fight you would get goons just to charge the mound and beat up the pitcher. What protection would a pitcher have if a guy just decided to charge for no good reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I disagree. Fist fighting doesn't belong in team sports. I dislike hockey for that reason, among others. Now, tennis, badminton, curling, Etc...that is some mono a mono conpetition and hand to hand combat should be encouraged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Ray Knight popping that douche Eric Davis is still my favorite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Nolan Ryan v Robin Ventura. Best baseball fight ever. Not much of a fight, though. More a "Best pummelling of a milquetoast little poser by a tough old fart." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Their are unwritten rules in baseball, a ton of them. unwritten rule37: charging the mound requires immediate bench clearing thats why the 1on1 doenst last long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Fence the dugouts... Then electrically lock the gates when somebody charges mound. It would be 2 vs. 9. The batter and the on deck guy... Let's see if they have the stones... Edited June 19, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Fence the dugouts... Then electrically lock the gates when somebody charges mound. It would be 2 vs. 9. The batter and the on deck guy... Let's see if they have the stones... Of course the lock master wants to electronically lock gates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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