NewEra Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Bring it said: I agree. He isn’t slow off the ball but he doesn’t have Kyles quickness at the snap. However I think he will be much stronger than KW against the run. Phillips is definitely a one tech. nose tackle. He will be hard to keep off the field imo. Isn’t that what Star plays in this D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, #34fan said: And you're the guy who p_sses in it anyway... Sure hope those homer pom-poms are still bouncing in November. You're done. Welcome to ignore, Negative Pollyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts. But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games. Love the pick. Kyle Williams he's not. But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:54 PM, CaptnCoke11 said: Taller and heavier than Kyle. Style of play isn’t that similar either. Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison Kyle Williams has quicker explosion off the LOS. That's the factor that has allowed him to be disruptive in the backfield over the years. They're both good at hand fighting in order to shed blocks. I think that's where Harrison's wrestling background gives him a leg up on some DT prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 hours ago, Paul Costa said: Heard this too. Ex State Champ Wrestler and Strong Christian values. McDermott’s dream profile of a player. A lot of Community Service too. He will be a fan favorite for sure. Great add to the program Diddling little boys is also a christian value. So is televagelism etc.. Very ugly values IMO. Please tell me McDermott is not a bigott, because I am constatly reading form posters how he chose this guy or that because of their Christian values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:51 PM, JimKellyTryouts said: We all just have no idea how he fell so far Not overly athletic, a tweaner(too small for nose, not quick enough for 3 technique) and motor. A knock was he didnt chase down the field plays so looks poorly on film. The response to the motor is that he played nearly every defensive snap over 95%, so he had to be calculated with his energy. Mcdermott likes to maximize effort and energy of his dline so that wont be an issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts. But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games. Love the pick. Kyle Williams he's not. But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year. There was a point where Kyle Williams was not Kyle Williams. I still remember when we drafted him....in what...the FIFTH round... What was the knock on him at that time.....short arms I think. I know this....when we drafted Adolphus Washington I was VERY concerned about the talk that he was not stout against the run and his pass rush ability was being promoted...first and foremost a DT has to CONTROL THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.......I think we found that with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Phillips is a future pro bowler in this Defense. He's not just a doubleteam eating 1-tech, he can penetrate- as shown by 100+ tackles last year. He'll be a rotational guy in year 1, but will really take off post-Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I'll say this: With Phillips and Star in the middle and Edmunds behind him, teams will NOT be running straight up the gut against the Bills like they did last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Logic said: I'll say this: With Phillips and Star in the middle and Edmunds behind him, teams will NOT be running straight up the gut against the Bills like they did last year. Im starting to get very excited about this defense - DT is set......and if you need pass rush in the middle you can flip Shaq Lawson inside to pair with Meatball on certain packages.....Star and Phillips should clog the run nicely - LB's much more athletic...not just Edmunds but keep in mind Milano goes into his second year and was a STUD when they finally let him play...he was everywhere - The secondary is total quality - They addressed pass rush.....you can flip Lorax out to rush the passer also I am expecting a big jump on D this year (which jumped from last year from the previous year) possibly top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) Can't wait to see our goalline defense with Harrison DE: Shaq Lawson DT: Kyle Williams NT: Star Lotulelei DT: Harrison Philips DE: Trent Murphy SLB: Lorenzo Alexander MLB: Tremaine Edmunds WLB: Matt Milano CB: Vontae Davis S: Jordan Poyer CB: Tre White Good luck trying to run on that stout run stuffing defense line with those huge athletic Linebackers behind them Edited May 3, 2018 by Kmart128 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Peace Frog said: You're done. Welcome to ignore, Negative Pollyanna. Welp, -so much for peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts. But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games. Love the pick. Kyle Williams he's not. But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year. Good to hear from you, Soda. Excellent point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: There was a point where Kyle Williams was not Kyle Williams. I still remember when we drafted him....in what...the FIFTH round... What was the knock on him at that time.....short arms I think. I know this....when we drafted Adolphus Washington I was VERY concerned about the talk that he was not stout against the run and his pass rush ability was being promoted...first and foremost a DT has to CONTROL THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.......I think we found that with this guy. I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1. They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:28 PM, billspro said: I think he will end up being the best DT in the class. It is unheard of for a DT to lead his team in tackles. He was named 1st team over Vea who is a very good player in his own right. Um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1. They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. My point being when we took Kyle he was a 5th round pick....and we didnt know much about him at the time like the Rook Now to be fair here.....the rook is stepping in behind a multi pro bowler sure fire wall of famer in the Meatball and NOT that loser John McCargo. but both were late round picks and unknowns to start..that is all I am saying. My feeling if he gets anywhere close to Kyle Williams in play we scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: My point being when we took Kyle he was a 5th round pick....and we didnt know much about him at the time like the Rook Now to be fair here.....the rook is stepping in behind a multi pro bowler sure fire wall of famer in the Meatball and NOT that loser John McCargo. but both were late round picks and unknowns to start..that is all I am saying. My feeling if he gets anywhere close to Kyle Williams in play we scored I agree I think getting him in the late 3rd was an absolute homerun for this draft. He will come in here like a sponge and soak up a lot of knowledge from both Kyle and Star. I expect a heavy rotation from our Dline finally now that we have guys worth rotating. I'd like to see Adolphus Washington step it up too because I feel like he should be doing the 3 tech behind Kyle while Phillips should be backing up Star at the nose, but wherever they put them I expect a better run defense this year vs last year. Add a much faster LB in Edmunds and a 2nd year LB in Millano and our front 7 should be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 11:43 AM, HoserE said: I live out here is PAC-12 country and will tell you that this kid is a beast. He was the middle anchor of a very good Stanford defense. Smart, instinctive, tough, physical, hard worker. The second coming of Kyle. I concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1. They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. Not really... I remember not liking Kyle Williams. I wanted us to start McCargo. He seemed like he played better early on in their careers but staff seemed to love Kyle Williams and I couldn't figure out why... Boy was I wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Kmart128 said: Not really... I remember not liking Kyle Williams. I wanted us to start McCargo. He seemed like he played better early on in their careers but staff seemed to love Kyle Williams and I couldn't figure out why... Boy was I wrong. I was biased for Kyle from the start for one simple reason. I played with #95 in junior high and that was my number so I was all in on Kyle from the get go. I also had a Sam Adams Jersey that i recycled as well. Still have it. Still have my Dareus error jersey that I'm probably going to recycle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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