2019 Mock Drafts and top prospects

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

Herbert's only played half a season each of the past two years.  As of now, he looks like a solid top 12 pick to me.  He's upped his game from last year and might very well look like a no. 1 overall by the end of the season.  He certainly has the tools.  Lots of football left.

 

I haven't deep dived on him yet but off tv only I have a 2nd round grade and he is probably my top QB. I think he will go in the first round but I don't presently see him going in the first 5 picks.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Neither did Mahomes or Allen for you. This is not a criticism in your judgment as much as point out that teams are willing to pay a premium for a top shelf qb prospect. My contention is that there is a good chance that the Bills will be in a draft position to parlay it into a number of high end prospects. In addition, judiciously moving down doesn't mean that you will left out of the market for a premium player with your lower first round pick that still can be a premium pick. When you have a dearth of talent and have an opportunity to add an infusion of talent then seize it. In addition to the draft because of our bountiful cap situation a number of competent players can be added to replace some incompetent players. In one year this roster can be dramatically upgraded. When you have such an opportunity that is not the time to shrink from creatively acting. 

 

Don't mistake my GRADE on someone for where I think someone WILL be drafted. I had 3rd round grades on both Mahomes and Allen. They were both projects to me. But I thought both would go in the first round. Indeed I banged the drum that Mahomes would go top 10 in 2017 - I said three in the top 10 when the TBD consensus was maximum 1 in the top 10. I accept NFL GMs fall in love with toolsy high ceiling guys even though they tend not to float my boat. I think Herbert will go 1st round. I doubt he goes top 5 when you combine his actual talent level with the QB need around the league. 

 

And I think you can get great players further down. My contention is that is a game of chance. There are in this draft a couple of genuine, premium blue chippers at the top. You don't pass on those guys for more picks. Picks are not an end in themselves they are a means of aquiring talent. I am not giving up an elite prospect at a critical spot for two good ones who may have a shot to be great, and nor should any NFL team. 

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Somebody will. 

 

I can see Denver doing it because I doubt they see Keenum as the answer and getting a "franchise" QB from a big school would make big John happy.

 

(Btw I've seen Herbert in 3 games and he's looked pretty good)

 

 

 

But Denver might well be picking in that #6 to #10 range. Not sure why they would need to trade up? 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Don't mistake my GRADE on someone for where I think someone WILL be drafted. I had 3rd round grades on both Mahomes and Allen. They were both projects to me. But I thought both would go in the first round. Indeed I banged the drum that Mahomes would go top 10 in 2017 - I said three in the top 10 when the TBD consensus was maximum 1 in the top 10. I accept NFL GMs fall in love with toolsy high ceiling guys even though they tend not to float my boat. I think Herbert will go 1st round. I doubt he goes top 5 when you combine his actual talent level with the QB need around the league. 

 

And I think you can get great players further down. My contention is that is a game of chance. There are in this draft a couple of genuine, premium blue chippers at the top. You don't pass on those guys for more picks. Picks are not an end in themselves they are a means of aquiring talent. I am not giving up an elite prospect at a critical spot for two good ones who may have a shot to be great, and nor should any NFL team. 

 

But Denver might well be picking in that #6 to #10 range. Not sure why they would need to trade up? 

 

Keenum will get them into the playoffs, they gave KC all they could handle.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Ouch for the Bills' Josh!

[26CornerBlitz]

2019 NFL Mock Draft: Broncos pick Justin Herbert, Niners take big receiver at No. 2

 

by Chris Trapasso

 

3. Buffalo Bills

 

Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State. I can't elude this pairing. It's too perfect. Jerry Hughes has been a monster in Buffalo, but he's nearing the end of the prime of his career, and the Bills' other defensive end spot is lacking. Bosa is as refined as they come and has the natural physical abilities to be a star in the NFL.

 

[Bill from NYC]

On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 4:02 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

You have to look who is likely to be picking one too.... I have 6 possible Quarterback teams (Denver, NYG, Miami, Jacksonville, LAC, Tampa) but none of them would I call a "desperate" need. There are currently 7 teams who have got starting QBs picked in the top 12 of the last two drafts who are feeling differing degrees of good about their guys. It is a strange year to my mind with very little urgent Quarterback need and no stand out prospect and as a result I don't see teams reaching up the board in the first round - especially when it looks a pretty talented draft at a lot of other spots. 

 

 

You raise good points but I disagree wrt the Giants.

 

I think that they are already in desperate need and if not, they will be by the end of the season.

 

Jmo.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

You raise good points but I disagree wrt the Giants.

 

I think that they are already in desperate need and if not, they will be by the end of the season.

 

Jmo.

 

Possibly. And the dinosaur GM will draft a middle linebacker.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

It was only one game but watched Oliver Thursday night against Tulsa and the guy was non existent.

 

 

[suorangefan4]

It's so frustrating being a Buffalo fan.

 

They almost never make the playoffs yet they always manage to win enough games that they were favored to lose so they draft near the middle of the rounds. 

 

 

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No. 12 – Buffalo Bills

PICK: Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State

The Bills invested heavily in Josh Allen as its franchise QB but his weapons are arguably the worst in the NFL. Buffalo must commit to surrounding Allen in the coming offseason and Harmon would give the Bills a receiver with the upside to become a No. 1 guy. Harmon isn’t a burner but he dominates at the catch point with exceptional ball skills and suction cups for hands. He is a true route salesman that knows how to create separation with nuanced technique in his release and stems.

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[mannc]

On 10/6/2018 at 12:16 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

It was only one game but watched Oliver Thursday night against Tulsa and the guy was non existent.

 

 

He was invisible in the second half of the game I watched him in, too.  Texas Tech, I think.  Seems overhyped.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

59 minutes ago, mannc said:

He was invisible in the second half of the game I watched him in, too.  Texas Tech, I think.  Seems overhyped.

 

so far  but I remember watching Khalil Mack and thinking he wasn't great either. I suppose the whole body of work, athleticism and desire need to  be evaluated.

 

 

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12 - MONTEZ SWEAT

Defensive Lineman, Mississippi State

The Buffalo Bills have been the most confusing team in the NFL this season, as they look like a team that should go 0-16 one week, and then beat a playoff team from last season in the next. They may have found the answer in quarterback Josh Allen, who they took in the first round in 2018, as he has shown he is not afraid to get the yardage on the ground, or stand in the pocket and take a hit.

 

The problem is, you never want you quarterback to take too many hits, but that has been the case this season, as the offensive line is suspect. They need to focus on making that a priority next offseason, but they need some veteran leadership in the group, and should spend money on some proven players in the NFL.

 

Up front on the other side of the ball is also an issue in Buffalo, although the defense has shown flashes of brilliance in their two wins this season. One player who could really help them is Montez Sweat from Mississippi State, who can play in the middle of the defensive line, but also is athletic enough to go on the outside and try to get the edge in certain spots.

 

This Bills teams is building from within, and they have a defensive-minded coach in Sean McDermott. They have shown that they can go in and beat the likes of the Tennessee Titans and Minnesota Vikings,  two teams that should challenge to make the playoffs this season, but until they can play consistently, they will be picking in the first half of the first round next April.

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[mannc]

On 10/10/2018 at 7:46 AM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

12 - MONTEZ SWEAT

Defensive Lineman, Mississippi State

The Buffalo Bills have been the most confusing team in the NFL this season, as they look like a team that should go 0-16 one week, and then beat a playoff team from last season in the next. They may have found the answer in quarterback Josh Allen, who they took in the first round in 2018, as he has shown he is not afraid to get the yardage on the ground, or stand in the pocket and take a hit.

 

The problem is, you never want you quarterback to take too many hits, but that has been the case this season, as the offensive line is suspect. They need to focus on making that a priority next offseason, but they need some veteran leadership in the group, and should spend money on some proven players in the NFL.

 

Up front on the other side of the ball is also an issue in Buffalo, although the defense has shown flashes of brilliance in their two wins this season. One player who could really help them is Montez Sweat from Mississippi State, who can play in the middle of the defensive line, but also is athletic enough to go on the outside and try to get the edge in certain spots.

 

This Bills teams is building from within, and they have a defensive-minded coach in Sean McDermott. They have shown that they can go in and beat the likes of the Tennessee Titans and Minnesota Vikings,  two teams that should challenge to make the playoffs this season, but until they can play consistently, they will be picking in the first half of the first round next April.

Absurd.

[The Senator]

On 4/29/2018 at 4:44 PM, thunderingsquid said:

Here we go.  I've let the draft sink in more than long enough and now I'm on to our 2019 team needs and a mock.  You should be too.  Don't ever lose sight of the future.  

 

Needs:
OT 
OLB

TE

RB

 

We will have a nice cushion with the cap space and there a lot of OLBs in free agency next year but I still think it is a priority.  My guess is that we will be picking in the middle of each round at about 16.  I'm doing 4 rounds because 5 or more would just be insane, right?  

 

Rd 1: David Edwards OT Wisconsin

Rd 2: Montez Sweat OLB Miss St

Rd 3: Tommy Sweeney TE Boston College

Rd 4: Myles Gaskin RB Washington

 

Flame on, haters!  

 

I respectfully disagree... our#1pick should be Jonah Wilson, OT, Alabama, or Trey Adams, OT, Washington.   JMO.  Wisconsin does turn out some great offensive linemen.

Edited October 12, 2018 by The Senator

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[thebandit27]

12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Paging @thebandit27

 

I would trade Buffalo's group of WRs for a drunkard with a sinus infection

[ocemur]

24 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

I would trade Buffalo's group of WRs for a drunkard with a sinus infection

Well I guess the sinus infection would prove he could catch something.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, ocemur said:

Well I guess the sinus infection would prove he could catch something.

 

KB has been vaccinated, it appears. 

[Billsfansinceday1]

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 8:17 PM, The Senator said:

 

I respectfully disagree... our#1pick should be Jonah Wilson, OT, Alabama, or Trey Adams, OT, Washington.   JMO.  Wisconsin does turn out some great offensive linemen.

Wait...We don't need a WR or 2?  I must be watching the wrong Bills team.

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[OldTimeAFLGuy]

On 10/11/2018 at 8:17 PM, The Senator said:

 

I respectfully disagree... our#1pick should be Jonah Wilson, OT, Alabama, or Trey Adams, OT, Washington.   JMO.  Wisconsin does turn out some great offensive linemen.

 

...certainly makes MORE sense than focusing on DL candidates......pretty safe to say that is ONE of the acknowledged weak points.........................

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[DCOrange]

On 10/9/2018 at 12:40 PM, mannc said:

He was invisible in the second half of the game I watched him in, too.  Texas Tech, I think.  Seems overhyped.

 

Just some perspective, here's Ed Oliver compared to the first DT taken in each draft this decade (plus Gerald McCoy since he was also considered one of the best DT prospects we've seen in a long time). Outside of Aaron Donald, nobody is even remotely close to him in terms of tackles for loss and outside of Donald, he's pretty close to everyone in terms of sacks.

 

Edited October 16, 2018 by DCOrange

[26CornerBlitz]

2019 NFL Draft order, team needs: Bills, Broncos slide into top 10

 

This is a look at the first-round order of the 2019 NFL Draft through Week 6. The order is determined by record, using strength of schedule as a tiebreaker. Keep in mind -- teams 21-32 would make the playoffs if the season ended today. The draft order for playoff teams is determined by the results of postseason play.

 

We've added three needs for each team to the mix this time around in our weekly look at where things stand in the 2019 draft order. Now, keep in mind -- these needs will evolve over the course of the season and beyond, as personnel moves are made (the trade deadline is a couple weeks away), areas that look troubling now begin to stabilize and perceived strengths begin to fray before the regular season winds to a close in a few months.

 

This is simply a snapshot of what those needs could be when we reach that point.

 

As for the draft order, the teams that occupied the top five a week ago still occupy those spots this week, with some minor shuffling. The big movement takes place outside of the top five, with three teams sliding into the top 10.

 

Arrows indicate how far up or down a team has moved relative to last week.

Edited October 16, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

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[BuffaloHokie13]

It's never too early, right?

4: R1P4

EDGE NICK BOSA

OHIO STATE

36: R2P4

WR ANTHONY JOHNSON

BUFFALO

67: R3P3

OT WYATT MILLER

UCF

106: R4P4

G CONNOR MCGOVERN

PENN STATE

133: R4P31

RB MYLES GASKIN

WASHINGTON

144: R5P4

C TYLER BIADASZ

WISCONSIN

160: R5P20

TE MATT SOKOL

MICHIGAN STATE

178: R6P4

CB ISAIAH JOHNSON

HOUSTON

220: R7P4

WR OLAMIDE ZACCHEAUS

UVA

241: R7P25

S MARK MCLAURIN

MISSISSIPPI STATE

[26CornerBlitz]

 

8. Buffalo: Jeffrey Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
In a pass-first league, teams are always looking for interior pass rushers, and Simmons’s burst and speed will earn him a lot of attention. There are character concerns, and he will have to answer questions after pleading no contest to simple assault in 2016 after striking a woman several times during a fight.

[JohnC]

26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

8. Buffalo: Jeffrey Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
In a pass-first league, teams are always looking for interior pass rushers, and Simmons’s burst and speed will earn him a lot of attention. There are character concerns, and he will have to answer questions after pleading no contest to simple assault in 2016 after striking a woman several times during a fight.

This is a draft loaded with defensive linemen. I don't see McDermott interested in a player who hit a woman several times in a fight. If that is the case I agree with the coach's mind-set.