YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-cosells-draft-analysis-josh-rosen-refined-perhaps-best-qb-class-151629623.html Quote He still has enough mobility to make needed second-reaction plays, but he’s a high-level prospect because of his work from the pocket. Rosen has very good mechanics that he repeated consistently: good ball position, firm base, excellent balance, compact delivery, good velocity. There was a calmness and poise to his pocket play. For NFL teams that value pocket play, Rosen will be a desirable prospect in this draft. He doesn’t have many weaknesses, as we’ll see as we break down his game. Edited April 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I hope Rosen becomes the next Rodgers. That short 15 min doc on YouTube showing the process was an excellent watch. It just shakes out sometimes like that. I hope if given the chance we dont pass. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-cosells-draft-analysis-josh-rosen-refined-perhaps-best-qb-class-151629623.html "For NFL teams that value pocket play, Rosen will be a desirable prospect in this draft. " Joe B: Now, quarterback is obviously a huge to-do here. What do you look for most -- what qualities do you look for most in quarterbacks in the NFL? Brandon Beane: Well, you know, I've been around all shapes and sizes... from Steve Beuerlein, to Steve Bono, to Jake Delhomme, to Cam Newton. The one thing that you have to have: you have to have the intangibles. You have to have the leadership qualities. You've got to get guys to follow you. It is a quarterback league, and if you don't have the leadership in the other guys, that's 11 guys on the field -- if they're not following you, it just doesn't work. I've seen quarterbacks that have arm talent. We've known the names in this league -- I'm not going to call them out -- that have all the talent in the world and they've been first-round picks.... but they aren't leaders. You've got to start there. You want to be able to have a passer that can throw from the pocket. It's good to be mobile... we love that. And obviously, Tyrod brings that, and I think Peterman has some things like that. You know, all these guys have some different qualities... there's not one thing, but, at the end of the day, quarterbacks in the NFL must be able to throw from the pocket. https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/what-does-buffalo-bills-gm-brandon-beane-want-at-qb-you-have-to-be-able-to-throw-from-the-pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 But... Does Charles Barkley like him? What about Nick saban? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 people don't get it. Rosen was the top prospect in cali as a youngster, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. went to St John Bosco prep, one of the best football programs in the country. best QB in the nation coming out of high school. elite 11, all of that. he is the best QB in this draft and the best in at least the past 3 drafts 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Quote Beane said, “In this game, you have plays where it’s third-and-9 and you can’t run for it, and you got to be able to make plays from the pocket.” He went on to mention that a quarterback can’t be “a statue,” nor can he merely be a “run-around guy.” Overall, it seems as if Beane would like a quarterback who can use his legs when necessary, but who is ultimately able to consistently make plays from the pocket. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/3/2/17067620/nfl-offseason-2018-brandon-beane-and-sean-mcdermott-on-the-buffalo-bills-quarterback-situation Edited April 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The pick really needs to be him. It's the perfect fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: people don't get it. Rosen was the top prospect in cali as a youngster, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. went to St John Bosco prep, one of the best football programs in the country. best QB in the nation coming out of high school. elite 11, all of that. he is the best QB in this draft and the best in at least the past 3 drafts I pray he doesn't go to the Jets. I do wonder who the Bills would choose between Darnold and Rosen though. Rosen just looks NFL ready right now. Edited April 17, 2018 by PIZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Mike Mayock says there's no Jared Goff in this draft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 He is a much better prospect than Goff imo. I hope we get him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, PIZ said: I pray he doesn't go to the Jets. I do wonder who the Bills would choose between Darnold and Rosen though. Rosen just looks NFL ready right now. It’s quite possible they are divided, but the decision could be made for them based on who they can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s quite possible they are divided, but the decision could be made for them based on who they can get I'm not sure if it was you or someone else but isn't Woody Johnson connected to Trump in some sort of way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kdiggz said: people don't get it. Rosen was the top prospect in cali as a youngster, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. went to St John Bosco prep, one of the best football programs in the country. best QB in the nation coming out of high school. elite 11, all of that. he is the best QB in this draft and the best in at least the past 3 drafts Rosen played against better players in HS than Allen did in college [ducks] Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not sure if it was you or someone else but isn't Woody Johnson connected to Trump in some sort of way? Yes he’s Trump’s ambassador to the UK Edited April 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Rosen played against better players in HS than Allen did in college [ducks] Yes he’s Trump’s ambassador to the UK That's got to play a role in it. I think they go Mayfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Seems like the only real flaw people can find with Rosen are the things he's said, and the concussions. But even the people who knock Rosen for the things he's said will start by saying "he's the best passer in this draft" or something along those lines. He's a young kid. When I think another some of the stuff I used to say and do bad when I was his age... yeah. He's a smart kid. He will grow and mature. It would be so dumb (IMO) to pass on such a talented QB over some things he's said to the media. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, kdiggz said: people don't get it. Rosen was the top prospect in cali as a youngster, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. went to St John Bosco prep, one of the best football programs in the country. best QB in the nation coming out of high school. elite 11, all of that. he is the best QB in this draft and the best in at least the past 3 drafts I'd be curious to know if any of that stuff correlates to NFL success 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not sure if it was you or someone else but isn't Woody Johnson connected to Trump in some sort of way? As Yolo said, he's his ambassador to the U.K., and they are also very good friends. Someone else said they are neighbors too (not sure if just a vacation property or what). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Seems like the only real flaw people can find with Rosen are the things he's said, and the concussions. But even the people who knock Rosen for the things he's said will start by saying "he's the best passer in this draft" or something along those lines. He's a young kid. When I think another some of the stuff I used to say and do bad when I was his age... yeah. He's a smart kid. He will grow and mature. It would be so dumb (IMO) to pass on such a talented QB over some things he's said to the media. Mayfield had two concussions 2 years ago, and Allen has shoulder injury issues too. I too think it’s overblown on the “durability” stuff, jmo 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: I'd be curious to know if any of that stuff correlates to NFL success It would be interesting - i think it correlates to his polish. Also, his tennis background gives him underrated agility in the pocket (Brees had same) Edited April 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Mayfield's completion percentage was 8 points higher than Rosen's this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, jr1 said: Mayfield's completion percentage was 8 points higher than Rosen's this season I like Mayfield and he’s one of the guys I’d be excited to get. He’s very accurate. Not to take anything away from him but Lincoln Riley set up his offensive scheme perfectly for Mayfield. We don’t know what he will be set up for in the NFL. A lot of Qb success is situational based on coaching, scheme, surrounding team. Mayfield isn’t a universal slam dunk for teams because he’s more scheme specific than Rosen or Darnold. It’s because of his size and speed - neither are good. If he gets drafted by say the Saints or Jets, watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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