reddogblitz Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, stony said: At the very least, I credit the Jets for taking a swing on those guys. Even if it means you have the longest drought in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I kind of figured one or both were gone the minute they signed both McCown and Bridgewater. Pretty crazy that Maccagnan drafted a QB at #51 overall and will now cut him 2 years later without him ever having seen the field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: On this issue your eyes will never meet my eyes. I don't care how hideously incompetent the current Jet regime is. The bigger mistake for them would be not to try. The Bills organization prior to this regime are a model of what not to do rather than what to do. Their failure, as incompetent as they have historically been, is not to be aggressive on addressing the qb issue. While you condemn the Jets for their aggressive action to move up in the draft I salute them. You and I are riding different buses that are going to different destinations. I'm sitting comfortably in my seat because I know I am on the right bus. I don’t condemn them for trading up. I absolutely believe that is the best way to secure a QB. I condemn them for trusting guys that can’t identify QBs to make one of the biggest decisions their franchise has made. That same guy used a 2nd on Hackenberg!! They honestly would have been better off not picking a guy and forfeiting their 2nd round pick. They’d have saved some money anyways. Drafting a guy that is never active on game day doesn’t deserve an “A” for effort. There are no participation trophies. These guys don’t get paid to take swings. They get paid to get hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t condemn them for trading up. I absolutely believe that is the best way to secure a QB. I condemn them for trusting guys that can’t identify QBs to make one of the biggest decisions their franchise has made. That same guy used a 2nd on Hackenberg!! They honestly would have been better off not picking a guy and forfeiting their 2nd round pick. They’d have saved some money anyways. Drafting a guy that is never active on game day doesn’t deserve an “A” for effort. There are no participation trophies. These guys don’t get paid to take swings. They get paid to get hits. The Jet GM blundering on multiple qb decisions doesn't rise to the level of peculiar decision-making that the Bills made when they hired the loquacious Rex. That blunder set this franchise back by years. We are still digging out of that deep hole. I'm not quarreling with your position that the Jet GM made glaring mistakes. That's obvious and fair to criticize. But it is unfair to criticize the same GM when he seems to be making a bold strategic move to address a position that desperately needs addressing, at least for the long haul. I'm certainly not rating Maccagnan as one of the premier GMs in the league. He's not. However, where I will give him credit is that he is not afraid to move on from his mistakes. The person who you should be more critical of is the owner. It starts at the top. The owner/boss hired him and has kept him on. That's where the heart of the problem lies. When you make a bad hire it reverberates throughout the organization and the effects linger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I kind of figured one or both were gone the minute they signed both McCown and Bridgewater. Pretty crazy that Maccagnan drafted a QB at #51 overall and will now cut him 2 years later without him ever having seen the field... It's amazing. How could a guy possibly be that bad? So bad that they wouldn't play him at all? He was a three year starter at Penn State and a five star recruit. It's really amazing and strange that he is that terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t fault them for drafting them (well, a little) but I do fault them for not playing them. Hack was a 2nd rd pick and never took a snap in 2 years. 2 years of which there were a lot of meaningless snaps to be had. It was the perfect situation to evaluate him. And they stuck with the old guys Fitz and McCown. You can’t draft guys and never really take your swing. Yeah, they did the "hard part" by drafting them. Organizationally, their handling of them gets an F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Now, they need to cut about 13 WR's as they have like 19 on the roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Now, they need to cut about 13 WR's as they have like 19 on the roster? Bills are thirsty. Git r done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: The Jet GM blundering on multiple qb decisions doesn't rise to the level of peculiar decision-making that the Bills made when they hired the loquacious Rex. That blunder set this franchise back by years. We are still digging out of that deep hole. I'm not quarreling with your position that the Jet GM made glaring mistakes. That's obvious and fair to criticize. But it is unfair to criticize the same GM when he seems to be making a bold strategic move to address a position that desperately needs addressing, at least for the long haul. I'm certainly not rating Maccagnan as one of the premier GMs in the league. He's not. However, where I will give him credit is that he is not afraid to move on from his mistakes. The person who you should be more critical of is the owner. It starts at the top. The owner/boss hired him and has kept him on. That's where the heart of the problem lies. When you make a bad hire it reverberates throughout the organization and the effects linger. We are certainly in agreement here. Rex was the wrong guy at the wrong time. That Bills team had talent in 2015 and was heading in the right direction. He was a disaster. I also agree that it starts with ownership. It is on the owner’s to get it right. Good post!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: We are certainly in agreement here. Rex was the wrong guy at the wrong time. That Bills team had talent in 2015 and was heading in the right direction. He was a disaster. I also agree that it starts with ownership. It is on the owner’s to get it right. Good post!! The Marrone departure was damaging not only from a coaching standpoint but from an organizational standpoint. Although Whaley and Marrone were a mismatched combo if Marrone would have stayed Whaley would have gotten him the players he wanted. The irony is Whaley, maybe to a fault, did his best to get the players the HC wanted for his system. In my opinion he deferred to an outdated and unmotivated Rex who was playing out the string of a last contract. We all give credit to McDermott for getting his team to play above its talent level. He deserves it. But Marrone also got his team to play hard and play within itself. This team was on an upward trajectory when he left. The Bills were on their way to moving up the ranks. Then the Rex stupidity factor clicked in and the team went back to the starting blocks. What gives me optimism is that the organization is now aligned from top to bottom. There is a synchronization that hasn't existed since the Polian era. That doesn't mean that there won't be mistakes and set backs because mistakes are an inescapable part of the business. This goes back to the discussion of the Jets and how an owner structures and staffs an organization. In that respect the Bills are in a good situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Don’t tell Pegs that Hack will be available plz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I thought Petty showed some promise. I'd bring him to as camp fodder and see how it plays out. If he's better than Peterson, good... more depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 We should pick up both of them. Just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Touché. They may both be better than Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s “who cares” guy! https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/worst-types-people-twitter/ I care. But who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 6 hours ago, artmalibu said: Who cares.... I've heard of them. Git'r'dun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I love that Maccagnan drafted these guys and he's still there ready to draft a QB again. Is there anybody more clueless when it comes to evaluating QB's in the entire league? How does this guy still have a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 This is our secret plan! Keep all our picks because we have “holes to fill”, then get one of the under the radar Jets QB’s. We are the big winners of the off season! YAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I always thought Petty had potential to be a decent back-up. I never did see what anyone ever saw in Hackenburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboBill Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Here is why I post such nonsense. First and foremost because the Jets suck and i like to make fun of them. But more importantly the same regime who drafted these two clowns - one in the 2nd rd- that have been so bad they’ve had them locked in the basement rather than play them over Papa McCown even while eliminated from the playoffs in October - are also drafting another QB this year who they are using a top 10 pick plus 3 second round picks on. But, but, but ... we must trade all our picks this year and next to make sure we are ahead of them .... even if it means trading significantly more than they did to move up. WE deserve that right this year. 《Sarc》 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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