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2 hours ago, BillsFan17 said:

Yet, the other apparent rumor is the Giants wouldn't pass on Darnold. So, if anything, them floating they are taking Allen, should in theory make teams more reluctant to try and trade for the second overall.

 

Unless, those in the Browns organization have some sort of insight that Allen is really who the Giants wouldn't pass on...

 

Here's something I bet Cleveland would really like : Fool everyone into believing Four is available on the open market to bluff Denver into trading from Five to Four. If the Broncos wanted the next quarterback bad enough to toss the Browns something just to move up one spot, then Cleveland still gets Chubb or Barkley, but with a bonus to boot......

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Oh sweet baby Jesus that would be out!@#$ingstanding.  

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Found this in the Browns front office this morning

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Well that means 2nd overall will NOT be traded.    So Giants - Darnold Jets - Rosen  

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On 4/3/2018 at 3:14 AM, SoCoBills said:

Take it for what it’s worth. If true then wow, the Browns are still the Browns. What a mistake in the making. 

 

UPDATE: Broadcast by some social media pages as fact and some more reputable sources as more of a strong rumor. 

 

 

Anything's possible.

 

Including the Browns picking Allen.

 

And also including Allen possibly being terrific.

 

Dunno whether either will happen, but both are possible.

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6 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

 

It doesn't really change much for Buffalo.  Unless both NYG and Denver take QBs, Buffalo will have a chance to trade up for one of the top 4.  QBs going 1,2,3 would simply take 3 guys off the board that Denver could potentially want at 5.

 

 

The rumor is that the Giants want Darnold and if they can't get him will be open to trade back. So that's huge for the Bills if the Browns go Allen. If that happened, QBs would probably go 1-2-3 and after that teams would be desperate. You could easily get Denver picking a QB or trading back to allow another team up. Assuming Allen goes first, Denver would probably see Mayfield or Rosen available to them. They could very very easily take either guy.

 

It could easily mean the difference for Buffalo between trading up to two for their choice of anyone but Darnold, or being shut out of the top four guys unless Cleveland trades down with us from #4, and I think they might want Barkley too much to do that.

 

Nothing's sure, it would be too fluid, but this could have a big effect at OBD.

 

 

3 hours ago, grb said:

 

Here's something I bet Cleveland would really like : Fool everyone into believing Four is available on the open market to bluff Denver into trading from Five to Four. If the Broncos wanted the next quarterback bad enough to toss the Browns something just to move up one spot, then Cleveland still gets Chubb or Barkley, but with a bonus to boot......

 

 

 

Yup. Good point.

 

 

18 hours ago, garybusey said:

 

That's if you buy the Giants love for only Darnold. I don't think it makes sense that they have 1 QB in this draft rated that much higher than the others.

 

They're bluffing.

 

 

Fair enough. That's definitely possible.

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Any chance that Hue and Cleveland covet Sam Darnold/Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson all the same?  They could take Sam Darnold (whom the Bills love) at #1 with the intention of trading down with the Bills if/when the Bills draft Lamar Jackson or maybe even Josh Allen; they may have to trade up to guarantee the one Cleveland wants.  If the trade falls through, then Cleveland keeps Darnold and is happy.  If it goes through, then they get their guy and a bunch of picks and are even happier.

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On ‎4‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 11:14 AM, SoCoBills said:

Take it for what it’s worth. If true then wow, the Browns are still the Browns. What a mistake in the making. 

 

UPDATE: Broadcast by some social media pages as fact and some more reputable sources as more of a strong rumor. 

to me this is just a clear sign that the Bills have the option to get Darnold if they want in a trade with the Gmen.

 

This should be exciting news since it's known the Bill have a trade set up with Gmen if they want to move up.

 

If they don't have something lined up with Gmen, then this is worse case cuz Gmen will take Darnold and Jets will take Rosen.  This will leave Mayfield to whomever trades to 4 or 5.

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17 minutes ago, dezertbill said:

to me this is just a clear sign that the Bills have the option to get Darnold if they want in a trade with the Gmen.

 

This should be exciting news since it's known the Bill have a trade set up with Gmen if they want to move up.

 

If they don't have something lined up with Gmen, then this is worse case cuz Gmen will take Darnold and Jets will take Rosen.  This will leave Mayfield to whomever trades to 4 or 5.

 

 

Or the Giants just take Barkley like has been rumored, the Jets take Baker and we are getting teams calling us for extra picks while we decide between Rosen and Darnold.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I still think this is a smokescreen. But one thing Eric Galko mentioned is that the Beowns have a lot of “wanna be” GMs in the room and that’s not always a good thing.

 

 

 

I've been leaning that way for quite a while now, so it doesn't surprise me.

 

As I've said multiple times: when Allen is right, he's easily the best QB in the class.  The reason he could go 1st is that a team decides that he was right often enough at Wyoming for them to believe that he'll be right often enough in the NFL.

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14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I still think this is a smokescreen. But one thing Eric Galko mentioned is that the Beowns have a lot of “wanna be” GMs in the room and that’s not always a good thing.

 

 

 

 

Dorsey sees Favre, Haley sees Big Ben, Haslam sees Wentz

 

 

12 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

I've been leaning that way for quite a while now, so it doesn't surprise me.

 

As I've said multiple times: when Allen is right, he's easily the best QB in the class.  The reason he could go 1st is that a team decides that he was right often enough at Wyoming for them to believe that he'll be right often enough in the NFL.

 

 

Right.  They see the best "clay" to mold a QB with.  He's a classic AFC North guy.  If you are supremely confident in your ability to coach him up, I can't say I blame the pick, but Cleveland being the team that thinks they can mold him makes me very nervous.

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The Browns will take Allen and they seem to have the right people and team in place to develop him.

 

The Giants coveting Darnold is the smokescreen.  They're just driving up the price tag for #2.  I believe Darnold is at the top of the Bills' board at QB.

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12 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Could you imagine if the Browns took Allen, the Giants Darnold and the Jets took Jackson. 

 

 

I'm waiting for the Browns to take Allen at 1 and Jackson at 12.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

The Browns will take Allen and they seem to have the right people and team in place to develop him.

 

The Giants coveting Darnold is the smokesceen.  They're just driving up the price tag for #2.  I believe Darnold is at the top of the Bills' board at QB.

 

 

I agree.  I think Beane and Gettleman have been playing a game of chicken all offseason.  Neither one has blinked so far. But if that card comes in for Allen at #1 it's going to get heated very quickly.

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9 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

What is the reason for the Allen smokescreen by the Browns, assuming it is just that? I have yet to hear an adequate explanation.

 

We are starting to get past the "smokescreen" period.  This is starting to be the time where what you are hearing is rooted in truth.  It was around this time last year you started to hear Trubinsky had distanced himself and Mahomes was going higher than people expected.

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to fake out the other 31 teams so they don't know what you are doing and so that you will have your choice of player. this is the Browns we are talking about here.

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1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

We are starting to get past the "smokescreen" period.  This is starting to be the time where what you are hearing is rooted in truth.  It was around this time last year you started to hear Trubinsky had distanced himself and Mahomes was going higher than people expected.

That's what I think as well. Start preparing the fan base. Darnold is also in play possibly instead of Allen for us. Love it

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