DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 18 hours ago, gobills1212 said: I get this point, but I've heard this broken down a couple times and explained that it's not that he questions in that he disagrees or would do it different, but rather he is very smart and in order to fully understand or learn he simply isn't satisfied with the direction but rather wants to understand why and the dynamics of it. I perceive that as a type of learning. Some people are hands on, some people are text book, me personally, I understand bc I understand something better when I get the context. He sounds like a bright dude so maybe it's next level BUT it also sounds like why it is the way it is would introduce a broader understanding. Like the type of qb who knows his role as well as everyone else's. That excites me bc the special ones seem to have that trait. I guess I'm just saying there seems to be a misunderstanding and some context to it where it doesn't have to be a bad thing and maybe is a good thing! Good point. Herm Edwards talks about this in his book as well. His early coaches were always annoyed by him because they thought he was questioning their methods, but really he wanted to know the logic behind the drill so he could learn even more. Once they figured that out, he was off to a long career. Wanting to build and broaden your football IQ is not a bad thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jr1 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 "Josh has ADD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 "He needs to be intellectually challenged": he has a brain and wants to know why things happen to actually understand them, being a better person and football player in the process "He has a lot of interests in life": he is a normal person and not some sociopath who eats/sleeps/breathes football with nothing else in his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 What I find funny is 1) Mora admitted teams arent calling him directly to find out about Rosen. That more or less tells me no one values the man's opinion. Especially on a player he was hands on with. 2) Who the .... would find it bad that a young mind wants/needs to be challenged to excellence. That's a positive not a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Will-GM-for-food said: "He needs to be intellectually challenged": he has a brain and wants to know why things happen to actually understand them, being a better person and football player in the process "He has a lot of interests in life": he is a normal person and not some sociopath who eats/sleeps/breathes football with nothing else in his life It's much easier to hold leverage over young players if they feel that, without football, they have little-to-zero expectations of a well-paying career. Smart people are wanted until they exhibit that their intelligence might lead them to pursue paths that don't concur with ownership/coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 It sounds to me like he is doing his former player a solid, trying to make sure he doesn't end up in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) On 3/26/2018 at 8:24 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, I love that guy who got everything because of his dad isn’t sticking up for his qb. Mora with his recruiting and awful coaching killed Rosen’s chances to be a winner in college. It’s like that saying that the only one who could stop Michael Jordan was Dean Smith. seriously, check out where UCLA players get drafted in the nfl. The amount of big time talent that they had under Mora playing in the Rose Bowl in LA is embarrassing. What a joke of a coach he was. According to Rosen, UCLA had a terrible football team because of the university's high academic standards, lol. Edited April 2, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, HiddenInLight said: It sounds to me like he is doing his former player a solid, trying to make sure he doesn't end up in Cleveland. I've been saying for awhile this stuff can only help him drop so the Bills have a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 If I understand this situation correctly, Rosen need to be challenged intellectually. And Mora is intellectually challenged. Do I have that right? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 8:19 PM, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Wow, he is basically reinforcing the narrative that Rosen is spoiled and not likable. Naw, he just doesn't want to see Josh's career wasted in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: If I understand this situation correctly, Rosen need to be challenged intellectually. And Mora is intellectually challenged. Do I have that right? Rosen is a little brighter than average. I don't get the notion that he's a super genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 7:25 PM, Awwufelloff said: Wow, his own coach is saying this a month before the draft. Pretty telling stuff right here. No way the bills draft him. Mayfield is more likely. I’m not a big fan of Tyrod but I’d rather have him back for another 3 years then Rosen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Rosen is a little brighter than average. I don't get the notion that he's a super genius. You also think the University of Alabama is a good academic school. 19 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: According to Rosen, UCLA had a terrible football team because of the university's high academic standards, lol. And you completely misunderstood the quote. It’s a million times easier to get a player into Alabama than Stanford and to a lesser extent, Notre Dame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: You also think the University of Alabama is a good academic school. Wrong. It's a very good academic school that attracts a lot of high achieving students. 25% have an ACT score 32 or above and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or above. Former Alabama QB Greg McElroy had a 48 on the Wonderlic. Rosen had a 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Wrong. It's a very good academic school that attracts a lot of high achieving students. 25% have an ACT score 32 or above and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or above. Former Alabama QB Greg McElroy had a 48 on the Wonderlic. Rosen had a 29. UCLA ranks 21st and Alabama 110th. Don't ever use a wonderlic as a measuring stick for an entire university. Edited April 2, 2018 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Wrong. It's a very good academic school that attracts a lot of high achieving students. 25% have an ACT score 32 or above and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or above. Former Alabama QB Greg McElroy had a 48 on the Wonderlic. Rosen had a 29. It's a very good school academically yes....if you're just a student. If you're an All American football player.....you basically just have to be literate. It's not just Alabama, it's a lot of powerhouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You also think the University of Alabama is a good academic school. And you completely misunderstood the quote. It’s a million times easier to get a player into Alabama than Stanford and to a lesser extent, Notre Dame. "UCLA can add another record-breaker to its list of sports statistics: largest SAT score gap between athletes and non-athletes. According to a new survey of 54 public universities released by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the average athlete at UCLA scored 247 points lower on the SATs than the average non-athlete, a greater difference than at any other university surveyed." http://dailybruin.com/2009/01/06/emucla-should-not-lower-admission-standards-athlet/ Maybe UCLA has cracked down admitting low stat athletes. I haven't seen any recent data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Wrong. It's a very good academic school that attracts a lot of high achieving students. 25% have an ACT score 32 or above and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or above. Former Alabama QB Greg McElroy had a 48 on the Wonderlic. Rosen had a 29. It's no wonder that McElroy couldn't play a lick of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's a very good school academically yes....if you're just a student. If you're an All American football player.....you basically just have to be literate. It's not just Alabama, it's a lot of powerhouses. Where is your data to support that claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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