BuffaloHogan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! 5 more weeks of this holy Mother of God please help us 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! not a bad strategy, unless the Browns are wed to Barkely at 4. But Browns would be foolish, IMO, to be wed to a RB that early. Lots of great RB's in this draft, and CLE could totally rebuild their team with more picks smartly deployed. I'd prefer Mayfield, but Rosen is my 2nd QB choice. Just now, dorquemada said: 5 more weeks of this holy Mother of God please help us nothing else to do. It's pre-draft time baby!!! Enjoy the craziness!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just seems like too many hoops to jump through with no guarantee you actually get #2. What if we jump up to #4 but the Giants don't want to deal? Does Beane have a 3rd or 4th quaterback he is okay trading up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This crap is making me watch so much video footage on all these QB's. I'm sold on Mayfield and Darnold as QB's that are worth trading up for with Rosen starting to wiggle his way in there as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Good plan, but the Giants aren't drafting Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! Maybe the Bills don't want Rosen as much as we would like to see him here. Maybe they like someone else. And if they do like Rosen, maybe they don't HAVE to get to 2. 1. Darnold 2. Chubb 3. Allen would not shock me here 4. Possibly a spot to trade. Or they possibly take Barkley. 5. If Nelson is on the board he goes here. You know what QBs like better than other QBs? Protection for QBs. They can grab that here, go Mike White Falk or Lauletta later and let them sit behind Keenum. 6. This is where I believe Rosen goes. Question is who makes the trade? Point being there are a TON of scenarios out there that involve Beane getting his guy (who we have no idea who they will value most) at a reduced rate. After Denver's pick NO ONE can offer the package we can. Miami only picks one spot before us and Arizona is after us. We have the capitol and a competitive draft slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Viola! Give up a ton of picks to get to 4 then a ton more to get to 2. It's so easy, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think the Browns are very enamored with the idea of walking out of the draft with their pick at QB and the #1 position player on their board. They have plenty of 2nd round picks already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! Don't want Rosen. There is no disputing his passing ability but he is a spoiled little rich kid who will get crushed in the NFL. Has a concussion history already. No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 or they could trade to 6 and then trade to 4 and then trade to 2 and then trade to 1 and then trade back to 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yep everyone seems to assume the Browns want more picks. I think we are shutout unless we get to 2. And, it ain't looking good. 1 minute ago, Original Byrd Man said: Don't want Rosen. There is no disputing his passing ability but he is a spoiled little rich kid who will get crushed in the NFL. Has a concussion history already. No thanks! So tired of this BS narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! Since when is 2 the top ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Yep everyone seems to assume the Browns want more picks. I think we are shutout unless we get to 2. And, it ain't looking good. So tired of this BS narrative. The thing of it is, most these anti-Rosen people really want Baker, who also has a concussion history. No one seems to want Allen, though he's had the same clavicle break that Romo and Rodgers have dealt with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 We truly need a Look At Me master thread for anyone who wants to create a new topic about this and fulfill their craving for attention and validation moment to clear up the topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Like A Mofo said: We truly need a Look At Me master thread for anyone who wants to create a new topic about this and fulfill their craving for attention and validation moment to clear up the topics Exactly. It's people posting in another thread, no one responds to them, so they start a new thread to try and force people to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathja Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 3-way trade that seems reasonable: Cleveland gets: #6 from colts, #22 from Bills. 2380 points. Indy gets: #12 from Bills, #35 from Cleveland, #65 from Bills. 2015 points. Buffalo gets: #4 from Cleveland. 1800 points. Cleveland still might have a shot at saquon Barkley if the Giants pass and Denver passes on him. Even if they don't get him they could grab Bradley Chubb or Quenton Nelson at 6. All three are probably in the mix for the 4th overall pick right now and they would get one of them. I think that is the key to making a deal like this happen. They also get to pick 22nd instead of 35th. Cleveland comes out slightly ahead in point value by about 30 points. Indy would move out of contention for Chubb and Barkley, but they only move down six spots and pick up 35 and 65. They have already picked up two second-rounders from the Jets this year and another next year. They would pick three times in a row in the early second round and also pick up the first pick in the third round. This is a huge opportunity for a team to build a roster that already has a championship-caliber quarterback, Assuming he's healthy. They come out ahead more than 400 points on the draft value chart, 1600 to 2015. Buffalo moves into the top four and still has two second-rounders and a third-rounder available to them for use or to trade. If the Giants decide not to draft a quarterback, they would be crazy not to move from #2 to #4. And if they have made that decision, I'm sure Buffalo could jump the two spots by offering just one second round pick. It would still leave them with a second and a third. If the Giants decide they are going to draft a quarterback, it means Buffalo gets the fourth quarterback chosen in the draft. They would have to be comfortable with Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen in order to do this, making the assumption that Darnold, Rosen, and one of Mayfield or Allen will get picked before they are on the clock. The only other concern would be the Giants trading out with Denver or someone else like Arizona, but it still guarantees Buffalo with one of those top four quarterbacks. It would also be difficult for Denver or Arizona to beat a buffalo offer if the bills are sitting with the 4th pick. Bottom line, it makes so much more sense to deal with Cleveland to get up to number 4 first, before going directly to the Giants. That would be way more expensive. Adding Indianapolis to the mix makes even more sense. Edited March 22, 2018 by mathja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, H2o said: Good plan, but the Giants aren't drafting Chubb Thanks Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: Thanks Nostradamus You're quite welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHogan said: If they want to get to 2, the path is now clear. Trade with the Browns at 4. Take 4 and add some picks to it and Voila! Browns get 2 more firsts, Giants get Chubb, Bills get Rosen... Win, Win, Win! 2 ?? We're going to 1 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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