Elite Poster Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Yes, a chart that has Johnny Football, Blake Bortles, and Paxton Lynch in the top 10, is why we should settle for QB. The stats exist and it's basically just arguing with a wall now, you hit 3x as much in the first few picks as you do the entire rest of the draft. We are one of 2 teams since the 1970s that have not taken a QB top ten. Wonder why we had a drought and haven't done a damn thing in 20 years. Edited March 19, 2018 by Elite Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 22 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Hi everyone I just stole this from another fansite because it helped me understand this draft a bit better than I did. Look at the NFL.com draft grades for this year versus other years. And I know the rankings can be inaccurate but they are some sort of gage. My purpose in posting this is to share what I learned. I learned that they have been calling this a great draft for QBs because there are a bunch of 6's. So lots to pick from is great. But at least from this chart the only one you would expect a team to trade their whole draft for is Sam Darnold. And Goff and Wentz you can see, again at least from this chart, seemed to be more of a sure thing going in than most of the guys in the draft class. So when they say next years looks like a lousy year for QB's . I wonder if they mean it is a lousy year like when it had EJ and Geno Smith, neither one of whom is fit to be a starter. Or is it a lousy year because there are not 5 grade 6's? What say you? Draft Year Name GRADE Status POS HT WT School Where drafted Team 2018 DARNOLD, SAM* 7.0 -- QB 6'3" 220 USC 2015 Winston, Jameis 6.7 Starter QB 6'4" 231 Florida St. Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Buccaneers 2016 Goff, Jared 6.5 Starter QB 6'4" 215 California Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Rams 2016 Wentz, Carson 6.5 Starter QB 6'5" 237 North Dakota St. Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Eagles 2017 Trubisky, Mitchell 6.3 Starter QB 6'2" 222 North Carolina Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Bears 2015 Mariota, Marcus 6.2 Starter QB 6'4" 222 Oregon Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Titans 2014 Bortles, Blake 6.2 Starter QB 6'5" 232 Central Florida Pick 3, Round 1 (3) Jaguars 2014 Manziel, Johnny 6.1 OUT QB 6'0" 207 Texas A&M Pick 22, Round 1 (22) Browns 2016 Lynch, Paxton 6.1 Backup QB 6'7" 244 Memphis Pick 26, Round 1 (26) Broncos 2014 Bridgewater, Teddy 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Louisville Pick 32, Round 1 (32) Vikings 2014 Carr, Derek 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Fresno St. Pick 4, Round 2 (36) Raiders 2018 ROSEN, JOSH* 6.1 -- QB 6'4" 226 UCLA 2018 MAYFIELD, BAKER 6.0 -- QB 6'1" 215 Oklahoma 2018 ALLEN, JOSH 6.0 -- QB 6'5" 233 Wyoming 2017 Watson, Deshaun 5.9 Starter QB 6'2" 221 Clemson Pick 12, Round 1 (12) Texans 2018 JACKSON, LAMAR* 5.9 -- QB 6'3" 200 Louisville 2017 Mahomes, Patrick 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 225 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) Chiefs 2016 Cook, Connor 5.8 Backup QB 6'4" 217 Michigan St. Pick 2, Round 4 (100) Raiders 2014 Garoppolo, Jimmy 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Eastern Illinois Pick 30, Round 2 (62) Patriots 2017 Kizer, DeShone 5.7 Backup QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame Pick 20, Round 2 (52) Browns 2014 McCarron, AJ 5.7 Backup QB 6'3" 220 Alabama Pick 24, Round 5 (164) Bengals 2017 Peterman, Nathan 5.7 Backup QB 6'2" 226 Pittsburgh Pick 28, Round 5 (171) Bills 2018 RUDOLPH, MASON 5.6 -- QB 6'5" 235 Oklahoma St. 2016 Hackenberg, Christian 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 223 Penn St. Pick 20, Round 2 (51) Jets 2016 Brissett, Jacoby 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 231 N.C. State Pick 29, Round 3 (91) Patriots 2016 Prescott, Dak 5.4 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Mississippi St. Pick 37, Round 4 (135) Cowboys 2015 Petty, Bryce 5.4 Backup QB 6'3" 230 Baylor Pick 4, Round 4 (103) Jets 2015 Grayson, Garrett 5.3 Backup QB 6'2" 213 Colorado St. Pick 11, Round 3 (75) Saints 2015 Hundley, Brett 5.3 Backup QB 6'3" 226 UCLA Pick 11, Round 5 (147) Packer This list is absolutely fascinating.. I do think you’re onto something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: Yes, a chart that has Johnny Football, Blake Bortles, and Paxton Lynch in the top 10, is why we should settle for QB. The stats exist and it's basically just arguing with a wall now, you hit 3x as much in the first few picks as you do the entire rest of the draft. We are one of 2 teams since the 1970s that have not taken a QB top ten. Wonder why we had a drought and haven't done a damn thing in 20 years. The 1970s, huh? Had to really stretch to find that choice tidbit. When was the last time the Green Bay Packers drafted a QB in the top ten? At least 25 years ago because they got Rodgers at #24 and they traded for Favre who was a second rounder. When was the last time the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted a QB in the top ten? I'm guessing it was back about 1970 when they took Terry Bradshaw because Roethlisberger was taken at #11. Oh, yeah, and the Stillers went to the SB with Neil O'Donnell IIRC, and they won playoff games with the likes of Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart. The Vikings have been a playoff team far more often than the Bills since 1970, and they haven't taken a top ten QB in decades. The last first rounder I remember them taking was Trent Edwards-clone Christian Ponder in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 23 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Oh I know. People here are overvaluing the QB’s this year because the Bills need one. The Bills have needed a QB for 15+ years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, SoTier said: The 1970s, huh? Had to really stretch to find that choice tidbit. When was the last time the Green Bay Packers drafted a QB in the top ten? At least 25 years ago because they got Rodgers at #24 and they traded for Favre who was a second rounder. When was the last time the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted a QB in the top ten? I'm guessing it was back about 1970 when they took Terry Bradshaw because Roethlisberger was taken at #11. Oh, yeah, and the Stillers went to the SB with Neil O'Donnell IIRC, and they won playoff games with the likes of Bubby Brister and Kordell Stewart. The Vikings have been a playoff team far more often than the Bills since 1970, and they haven't taken a top ten QB in decades. The last first rounder I remember them taking was Trent Edwards-clone Christian Ponder in 2011. I like stats, not feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 This class has been hyped for a long time, too. That has had a psychological effect. We feel more desperate to make a move than we should. This group is good, but they’re not all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 23 hours ago, B Fan in LA said: Count me in with the crowd that does not want to trade up any further. I'd be happy with Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph I’m coming around to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 7:00 AM, BadLandsMeanie said: Hi everyone I just stole this from another fansite because it helped me understand this draft a bit better than I did. Look at the NFL.com draft grades for this year versus other years. And I know the rankings can be inaccurate but they are some sort of gage. My purpose in posting this is to share what I learned. I learned that they have been calling this a great draft for QBs because there are a bunch of 6's. So lots to pick from is great. But at least from this chart the only one you would expect a team to trade their whole draft for is Sam Darnold. And Goff and Wentz you can see, again at least from this chart, seemed to be more of a sure thing going in than most of the guys in the draft class. So when they say next years looks like a lousy year for QB's . I wonder if they mean it is a lousy year like when it had EJ and Geno Smith, neither one of whom is fit to be a starter. Or is it a lousy year because there are not 5 grade 6's? What say you? Draft Year Name GRADE Status POS HT WT School Where drafted Team 2018 DARNOLD, SAM* 7.0 -- QB 6'3" 220 USC 2015 Winston, Jameis 6.7 Starter QB 6'4" 231 Florida St. Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Buccaneers 2016 Goff, Jared 6.5 Starter QB 6'4" 215 California Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Rams 2016 Wentz, Carson 6.5 Starter QB 6'5" 237 North Dakota St. Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Eagles 2017 Trubisky, Mitchell 6.3 Starter QB 6'2" 222 North Carolina Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Bears 2015 Mariota, Marcus 6.2 Starter QB 6'4" 222 Oregon Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Titans 2014 Bortles, Blake 6.2 Starter QB 6'5" 232 Central Florida Pick 3, Round 1 (3) Jaguars 2014 Manziel, Johnny 6.1 OUT QB 6'0" 207 Texas A&M Pick 22, Round 1 (22) Browns 2016 Lynch, Paxton 6.1 Backup QB 6'7" 244 Memphis Pick 26, Round 1 (26) Broncos 2014 Bridgewater, Teddy 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Louisville Pick 32, Round 1 (32) Vikings 2014 Carr, Derek 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Fresno St. Pick 4, Round 2 (36) Raiders 2018 ROSEN, JOSH* 6.1 -- QB 6'4" 226 UCLA 2018 MAYFIELD, BAKER 6.0 -- QB 6'1" 215 Oklahoma 2018 ALLEN, JOSH 6.0 -- QB 6'5" 233 Wyoming 2017 Watson, Deshaun 5.9 Starter QB 6'2" 221 Clemson Pick 12, Round 1 (12) Texans 2018 JACKSON, LAMAR* 5.9 -- QB 6'3" 200 Louisville 2017 Mahomes, Patrick 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 225 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) Chiefs 2016 Cook, Connor 5.8 Backup QB 6'4" 217 Michigan St. Pick 2, Round 4 (100) Raiders 2014 Garoppolo, Jimmy 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Eastern Illinois Pick 30, Round 2 (62) Patriots 2017 Kizer, DeShone 5.7 Backup QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame Pick 20, Round 2 (52) Browns 2014 McCarron, AJ 5.7 Backup QB 6'3" 220 Alabama Pick 24, Round 5 (164) Bengals 2017 Peterman, Nathan 5.7 Backup QB 6'2" 226 Pittsburgh Pick 28, Round 5 (171) Bills 2018 RUDOLPH, MASON 5.6 -- QB 6'5" 235 Oklahoma St. 2016 Hackenberg, Christian 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 223 Penn St. Pick 20, Round 2 (51) Jets 2016 Brissett, Jacoby 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 231 N.C. State Pick 29, Round 3 (91) Patriots 2016 Prescott, Dak 5.4 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Mississippi St. Pick 37, Round 4 (135) Cowboys 2015 Petty, Bryce 5.4 Backup QB 6'3" 230 Baylor Pick 4, Round 4 (103) Jets 2015 Grayson, Garrett 5.3 Backup QB 6'2" 213 Colorado St. Pick 11, Round 3 (75) Saints 2015 Hundley, Brett 5.3 Backup QB 6'3" 226 UCLA Pick 11, Round 5 (147) Packer This is an excellent post. And another reason why not to trade away McD's firstborn and Beane's left n*t to trade up above the Jets. The price the Jests paid to move up 3 spots is frightening. Some scouts say this is a very rich draft with lots of future starters and stars. In other words, this is a great draft to have a lot of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Some scouts say this is a very rich draft with lots of future starters and stars. In other words, this is a great draft to have a lot of picks. Part of my desire to move up is that I do not believe the above is true. I am not a lover of this draft class. I think QB, interior DL, Linebackers and running backs are pretty deep..... but try finding a starting corner or receiver after round 1 - that will be tricky. I think there are some decent round 1 and 2 oline but it drops off quickly after that. I only have 19 genuine first round grades at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The point that many are trying to make isn't that they don't think the Bills need to get a QB, but that this draft class isn't hyped because of the great quality of the top guys, but more then number of the potential guys available. There aren't any sure things or guarantees in this class, they all have some issues and concerns and it's more likely that the level of these may top out in the Winston/Marriotta level then the Mannings/Luck/Brees level. Many don't think the value is there to trade most of their top picks this year or next to move up for a good but not great starter when even the 4th or 5th QB in this draft has that potential. The cost is going to be huge to move up to get in front of the Jets, and theres no guarantee the guys there are going to be so much better then the 4th or 5th guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Does that mean food and water is overvalued because we need that? Terrible idea. We have the ammo to get a good one this year. If Mccarron beats the odds and works out you have even more trade ammo the next year. If not, you have a legit blue chipper sitting behind him. If you were desperate for food, you be darned sure that worms, slugs and some sort of animal dung would be higher on your list than they usually are. Cone at me BRO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Does that mean food and water is overvalued because we need that? Terrible idea. We have the ammo to get a good one this year. If Mccarron beats the odds and works out you have even more trade ammo the next year. If not, you have a legit blue chipper sitting behind him. Mate you looking into buying or selling anything? Id love to help you out...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's all subjective evaluation. It's just that some is more informed than others. Zierlein et al just aren't in a position to put in the man hours required to fully evaluate these prospects. Heck, NFL teams still aren't finished with their due diligence and rankings at this point. That said, I think the Bills, Jest, and others have a prospect that's a clear front runner with everybody else tightly packed in the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Mate you looking into buying or selling anything? Id love to help you out...? Yeah, you have a franchise qb? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Part of my desire to move up is that I do not believe the above is true. I am not a lover of this draft class. I think QB, interior DL, Linebackers and running backs are pretty deep..... but try finding a starting corner or receiver after round 1 - that will be tricky. I think there are some decent round 1 and 2 oline but it drops off quickly after that. I only have 19 genuine first round grades at the moment. I think a lot boils down then to how closely your evaluation compares with how McBean sees it. Two questions for you. One is McBeane has said he is just about out of free agent money. I am wondering if he trades away a bunch of picks to grab a QB, what is he going to do about restocking the roster? There must be some way to do it but I am thinking it would be ugly. They just shipped a whole bunch of decent players out of here. They will have to give away the top of two drafts, give or take, to get where they need to be. How would you pull that off and not get fired? Question 2 is: Do you agree with me at all when I say; The problem the Bills have had is that they did not take quarterbacks when they had the opportunity. I mean when they could have just picked one. Garopolo was there for example and they instead took a lineman with bad knee who went to the practice squad. They did not take Wilson. They did not take Prescott. These people were just sitting there for a low cost risk to see how they might turn out. The Bills wouldn't do it. Neither did they trade up a few spots to grab somebody. They just sat there. So I think maybe the way out of what they have done is to trade away a whole big bunch of draft picks. It could work. But do you agree the the problem we have now is rooted in them failing to take what was in front of their faces for a reasonable cost year after year? Edited March 19, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, you have a franchise qb? Well played sir, well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I think a lot boils down then to how closely your evaluation compares with how McBean sees it. Two questions for you. One is McBeane has said he is just about out of free agent money. I am wondering if he trades away a bunch of picks to grab a QB, what is he going to do about restocking the roster? There must be some way to do it but I am thinking it would be ugly. They just shipped a whole bunch of decent players out of here. They will have to give away the top of two drafts, give or take, to get where they need to be. How would you pull that off and not get fired? Question 2 is: Do you agree with me at all when I say; The problem the Bills have had is that they did not take quarterbacks when they had the opportunity. I mean when they could have just picked one. Garopolo was there for example and they instead took a lineman with bad knee who went to the practice squad. They did not take Wilson. They did not take Prescott. These people were just sitting there for a low cost risk to see how they might turn out. The Bills wouldn't do it. Neither did they trade up a few spots to grab somebody. They just sat there. So I think maybe the way out of what they have done is to trade away a whole big bunch of draft picks. It could work. But do you agree the the problem we have now is rooted in them failing to take what was in front of their faces for a reasonable cost year after year? I do agree. I'd have raced to podium and selected Deshaun Watson last year and said so at the time. If I thought there might be options in 2019 I might be more relaxed about not taking one in 2018... but the 2019 QB class looks awful a year out. Someone could appear from nowhere ala Trubisky last year but if they don't you could be looking at a 2013 level class. Which means if they don't do what it takes this year.... then you are waiting until 2020.... not sure McDermott and Beane get that long unless AJ plays beyond expectations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I do agree. I'd have raced to podium and selected Deshaun Watson last year and said so at the time. If I thought there might be options in 2019 I might be more relaxed about not taking one in 2018... but the 2019 QB class looks awful a year out. Someone could appear from nowhere ala Trubisky last year but if they don't you could be looking at a 2013 level class. Which means if they don't do what it takes this year.... then you are waiting until 2020.... not sure McDermott and Beane get that long unless AJ plays beyond expectations. Yep. They have a time problem. Which is what the Bills always do. I just had that thought now and I don't like it. But think about it last year there were quarterbacks for just one pick and they didn't take them. Now we need a QB and they have to take one and pay more than they should, or maybe get fired for not doing it, down the road. Just like everyone before them. Too much for JP. Too much for EJ (wasn't worth a first) I wonder what they will do? I hope they know! Meanwhile yes lets hope AJ works out better than expected! Edited March 19, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I do agree. I'd have raced to podium and selected Deshaun Watson last year and said so at the time. If I thought there might be options in 2019 I might be more relaxed about not taking one in 2018... but the 2019 QB class looks awful a year out. Someone could appear from nowhere ala Trubisky last year but if they don't you could be looking at a 2013 level class. Which means if they don't do what it takes this year.... then you are waiting until 2020.... not sure McDermott and Beane get that long unless AJ plays beyond expectations. I don't think they have such a time crunch to get one from TP I know its popular to believe that TP gave the new guys an ultimatum to obtain a franchise QB, but its also likely that after last season he saw what they were able to do with the roster they had and TP told them to do what they are doing and as long as the team continues to look like its getting better they are safe and will have whatever assetts they need to do what they need to. For all we know they have a decent franchise Qb in McCaron. The Browns were willing to give up a couple high picks for him at the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 10:00 AM, BadLandsMeanie said: Hi everyone I just stole this from another fansite because it helped me understand this draft a bit better than I did. Look at the NFL.com draft grades for this year versus other years. And I know the rankings can be inaccurate but they are some sort of gage. My purpose in posting this is to share what I learned. I learned that they have been calling this a great draft for QBs because there are a bunch of 6's. So lots to pick from is great. But at least from this chart the only one you would expect a team to trade their whole draft for is Sam Darnold. And Goff and Wentz you can see, again at least from this chart, seemed to be more of a sure thing going in than most of the guys in the draft class. So when they say next years looks like a lousy year for QB's . I wonder if they mean it is a lousy year like when it had EJ and Geno Smith, neither one of whom is fit to be a starter. Or is it a lousy year because there are not 5 grade 6's? What say you? Draft Year Name GRADE Status POS HT WT School Where drafted Team 2018 DARNOLD, SAM* 7.0 -- QB 6'3" 220 USC 2015 Winston, Jameis 6.7 Starter QB 6'4" 231 Florida St. Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Buccaneers 2016 Goff, Jared 6.5 Starter QB 6'4" 215 California Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Rams 2016 Wentz, Carson 6.5 Starter QB 6'5" 237 North Dakota St. Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Eagles 2017 Trubisky, Mitchell 6.3 Starter QB 6'2" 222 North Carolina Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Bears 2015 Mariota, Marcus 6.2 Starter QB 6'4" 222 Oregon Pick 2, Round 1 (2) Titans 2014 Bortles, Blake 6.2 Starter QB 6'5" 232 Central Florida Pick 3, Round 1 (3) Jaguars 2014 Manziel, Johnny 6.1 OUT QB 6'0" 207 Texas A&M Pick 22, Round 1 (22) Browns 2016 Lynch, Paxton 6.1 Backup QB 6'7" 244 Memphis Pick 26, Round 1 (26) Broncos 2014 Bridgewater, Teddy 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Louisville Pick 32, Round 1 (32) Vikings 2014 Carr, Derek 6.1 Starter QB 6'2" 214 Fresno St. Pick 4, Round 2 (36) Raiders 2018 ROSEN, JOSH* 6.1 -- QB 6'4" 226 UCLA 2018 MAYFIELD, BAKER 6.0 -- QB 6'1" 215 Oklahoma 2018 ALLEN, JOSH 6.0 -- QB 6'5" 233 Wyoming 2017 Watson, Deshaun 5.9 Starter QB 6'2" 221 Clemson Pick 12, Round 1 (12) Texans 2018 JACKSON, LAMAR* 5.9 -- QB 6'3" 200 Louisville 2017 Mahomes, Patrick 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 225 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) Chiefs 2016 Cook, Connor 5.8 Backup QB 6'4" 217 Michigan St. Pick 2, Round 4 (100) Raiders 2014 Garoppolo, Jimmy 5.8 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Eastern Illinois Pick 30, Round 2 (62) Patriots 2017 Kizer, DeShone 5.7 Backup QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame Pick 20, Round 2 (52) Browns 2014 McCarron, AJ 5.7 Backup QB 6'3" 220 Alabama Pick 24, Round 5 (164) Bengals 2017 Peterman, Nathan 5.7 Backup QB 6'2" 226 Pittsburgh Pick 28, Round 5 (171) Bills 2018 RUDOLPH, MASON 5.6 -- QB 6'5" 235 Oklahoma St. 2016 Hackenberg, Christian 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 223 Penn St. Pick 20, Round 2 (51) Jets 2016 Brissett, Jacoby 5.5 Backup QB 6'4" 231 N.C. State Pick 29, Round 3 (91) Patriots 2016 Prescott, Dak 5.4 Starter QB 6'2" 226 Mississippi St. Pick 37, Round 4 (135) Cowboys 2015 Petty, Bryce 5.4 Backup QB 6'3" 230 Baylor Pick 4, Round 4 (103) Jets 2015 Grayson, Garrett 5.3 Backup QB 6'2" 213 Colorado St. Pick 11, Round 3 (75) Saints 2015 Hundley, Brett 5.3 Backup QB 6'3" 226 UCLA Pick 11, Round 5 (147) Packer Based on the above list, the 2014 QB class was rated higher than this years. With Peterman and macaron both above Rudolph. Point being. Dont believe the hype. This is not a one in a lifetime QB class. Its an average, maybe slightly above average class. Don't mortgage the future to draft the 3rd, 4th or 5th best QB in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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