nucci Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Very true. A middle of the road team exactly. That benefited from several breaks which literally swung games. i don’t want to see the Bills be like the 10-6 Jets who became the next season fell off the cliff or the Dolphins who in ‘16 were the WC and in ‘17 fell off cliff. This stuff happens to teams every year......you need breaks to win games...to be ok going backwards and missing the playoffs next season is wrong 1 minute ago, jr1 said: are people ready for a 4 win season with a rookie QB? Nope 10 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: What if we are a better team in 2018 with a worse record? How would that strike you? if we're 4-12 are we a better team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 the AFC was so weak this season... Luck missed all year, Watson was lighting up defenses but got hurt mid-season... Lots of down years for AFC teams overall. And it still took a 4th down TD pass from Andy Dalton to get us there. I'm glad they are realistic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, MDFan said: Agree. There were certainly positive signs last year, particularly the way they prepared, the competitiveness, the team first attitude, etc. I liked the way the defense played down the stretch, buckling down and getting the Bills in the playoffs. They still have a long way to go to consistently compete with the best. He has the program established and they now need to build a better roster, and this will take some time, but I am confident he will have them competitive along the way. The Bills were an overachieving team last year. The new regime came in and stripped away some of the talent. The HC is in the process of getting his type of players. It is a tribute to the HC and the players who bought in that this team accomplished more than what was expected. It is also a tribute to the organization that it has a realistic assessment where this team actually stands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, jr1 said: are people ready for a 4 win season with a rookie QB? If we were 4-12 but that Rookie was playing at a high rookie level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: If we were 4-12 but that Rookie was playing at a high rookie level. if he is playing at a high rookie level we would win more than 4 games. Look at what the Texans did when Watson was the starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 FWIW: In many ways I think he is correct, he's right. And Buffalo MAY take a slight step backwards this season. IMO. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The Matt Ryan call was correct, Vinatieri made a FG earlier in that game he had no business making, and a win in the final week counts no more or no less than a win earlier in the season. That being said, I agree that they're not as far along, because of the QB situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, nucci said: This stuff happens to teams every year......you need breaks to win games...to be ok going backwards and missing the playoffs next season is wrong Nope I think you can look at how some teams win and say...legit. i also feel you can look at how other teams win and say...fools gold. i just feel that the Bills were more fools gold in 2017 than legit. That doesn’t mean I put down the effort. They overachieved IMO. But I do seriously question of how they won is a consistent thing over a long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 i think we all knew this, especially with the heavy change of the roster this past season. this off season is really the first step into building the roster that this new staff wants. it's going to take another year or two, but at least it looks like there is a specific plan in place. 1 minute ago, Socal-805 said: FWIW: In many ways I think he is correct, he's right. And Buffalo MAY take a slight step backwards this season. IMO. We will see. i could happen, and if it does, i would think it does in the name of making this roster younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: i think we all knew this, especially with the heavy change of the roster this past season. this off season is really the first step into building the roster that this new staff wants. it's going to take another year or two, but at least it looks like there is a specific plan in place. I just worry that the WC 9-7 will derail the team from fixing what really needs to be fixed. I feel other coaches (not just on this team) have fallen victim to the shinny object in front of their face and then imploded the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I think you can look at how some teams win and say...legit. i also feel you can look at how other teams win and say...fools gold. i just feel that the Bills were more fools gold in 2017 than legit. That doesn’t mean I put down the effort. They overachieved IMO. But I do seriously question of how they won is a consistent thing over a long haul. The Bills played some pretty good games last year. I understand the roster isn't perfect and am realistic but they can build on last years roster and still contend for the playoffs 1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I just worry that the WC 9-7 will derail the team from fixing what really needs to be fixed. I feel other coaches (not just on this team) have fallen victim to the shinny object in front of their face and then imploded the next season. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I just worry that the WC 9-7 will derail the team from fixing what really needs to be fixed. I feel other coaches (not just on this team) have fallen victim to the shinny object in front of their face and then imploded the next season. your concern is certainly legit, but this staff doesn't strike me that way. i feel like there's a specific formula in place, and they're sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 This team may very well regress record wise in 2018 as it lays the foundation for a team that will compete at a high level year after year. Need 2 DLs, 2 LBs, a Center, a #1 WR, at least one guard, a QB, and depth. The process means you keep filling the holes with personnel that fit, always trying to get better. I want to see a team that plays hard, and is getting better week after week. Bills were lucky to make the playoffs last year, but even if they hadn't I liked the direction the team was going. I'm hoping this draft for the Bills will be as productive as 2017. Maybe they can find some more FA gems. Already like the Davis signing. GO BILLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, nucci said: The Bills played some pretty good games last year. I understand the roster isn't perfect and am realistic but they can build on last years roster and still contend for the playoffs Why? Why? BecUse I root for a team that shut down its College Qb scouting reports and signed Fitzpatrick to a big deal after a couple of good games i root for a team whose GM refused to draft a QB and only admitted after being fired he should have done it but let other things (like the drought) Effect his thinking. lol im still recovering. Like a abused dog not willing to take the extended food from a new friendly owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, nucci said: a relief that we may go backwards? Not for me. You are supposed to build on your previous season...not go backwards It's a relief that we have a coach who understands that the job is not done. Unlike Rex, who thought we were a 16-0 team and didn't realize that you still have to work to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: He's right. We were a .500 team that got lucky. We have a lot of room to improve. You're being too kind with calling them a .500 team. It may get worse before it gets better and I'm fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 He is correct. Technically last year was the year the Bills were supposed to get 4-5 wins. And this year would be the year they would try to improve on that and maybe get to 8 wins. They way over achieved last year, and let's be honest, got a lot of breaks along the way. I like the direction they are going, but I think they are a few years away from being a legit contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, kdiggz said: we are always a .500 team and the common link is that we haven't had a QB. get a QB Dont take this personally but it this some sort of auto reply bot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 A prime example as well is the Miami Dolphins. They went what, 10-6 in 2016? They shouldn't have been 10-6 and got lots of breaks that season. Then look at them this year. Granted they had lots of adversity with the hurricane and losing Tannehill, but they fell right back down to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I have thought this way since mid season that the Bills are not a playoff caliber team. Good teams do not get blown out in multiple games during the season. The Bills got lucky that some plays went their way. I dont expect another playoff season next year but instead want to see the Bills build a team to be a contender within 3 yrs. Starts with QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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