Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Not sure it's an upgrade from EJ, but definitely alright with not overpaying EJ. Good to see them making the moves they need to to make the team better! Better man CB. EJ was a great fit for the D though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Not sure it's an upgrade from EJ, but definitely alright with not overpaying EJ. Good to see them making the moves they need to to make the team better! In terms of play it may be a wash as Vonate's getting older & both have injury concerns. Arguably the leadership element makes a sizable difference, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: In terms of play it may be a wash as Vonate's getting older & both have injury concerns. Arguably the leadership element makes a sizable difference, as well. In which way? I seem to remember Vontae being a bit of a cancer in Miami wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Yeah but for how much? Talk is ~$9M/year. I don't know, honestly. I have been thinking it over. We saw the worth of a defense that can create turnovers when he was in the lineup. We saw what happens to our defense when he plays. I have a feeling that he was as much the answer as any other individual on the team. For that I'm willing to spend a little bit and I think we could save a little bit by extending him I'm more than just a three-year deal because I don't think a team is really going to want to throw that much money at him right now. I'd do 4 yrs for $32mm with a fancy up front bonus to put him over $10mm the first two years. And incentives all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I do hope they add one more quality corner this offseason. Either re-signing Gaines (though I'm sure the price will preclude that) or signing someone like Aaron Colvin for the slot. My guess is a CB in Rd 3 or 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hell yeah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I'll honestly miss Gaines a bit , now that it looks like he won't be back Hopefully Davis thinks he's still got big game left (hence the 1 year deal for bigger $$ down the road) and he meshes well with our secondary We upgrade our nickel spot by a bit and our secondary looks really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Beane's asleep at the wheel again 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Better man CB. EJ was a great fit for the D though. If we can keep Gaines, would love to see Davis in slot or vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: My guess is a CB in Rd 3 or 4. It is a deep CB draft. I expect Donte Jackson to be highly overdrafted if he shows well this week, but if he's there in the later rounds I like his speed and the LSU connection with Tre'. Not sure how he fits McD's system though. I have never been one to understand the defensive backfield enough to comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Id still sign him to a 3 to 4 yr deal knowing we have Davis, can draft a late round cb and get Coleman. 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah but for how much? Talk is ~$9M/year. this happens with every FA, draft prospect, whatever. "JUST DRAFT PLAYER X" (except he's gone before we get to him/nobody willing to let us trade up) "JUST SIGN PLAYER Y" (except he costs more than we think he's worth/more than he is worth/don't have enough cap space) this isn't madden with the salary cap turned "off" you need to make smart decisions regarding what players to keep/what players to let walk i would love to keep gaines, but not @ $9m/year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 So excited!!! This secondary is going to be nasty next year. Davis gets to be CB2 in our D, he should dominate in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Beanes gone rogue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If he returns to form he would be an easy player to franchise tag. You probably wouldn't have to. He'd probably sign on a relatively team friendly deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 10:31 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Bay Area vs. Rust Belt. Not a contest. I'd go SF if I were him. ✍️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: It's so nice to see the Bills making all of the right moves, strange, but nice. Where have you been the last 12 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 My guess is that this signing is a warning to Gaines as much as anything else. They have their $ amount and they aren't going up. If he wants to go somewhere else that's his right. I think he'd be stupid to leave given how good McD made him look this past year, but money talks... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I'll honestly miss Gaines a bit , now that it looks like he won't be back Hopefully Davis thinks he's still got big game left (hence the 1 year deal for bigger $$ down the road) and he meshes well with our secondary We upgrade our nickel spot by a bit and our secondary looks really nice Me too, but Davis is going to be much cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I don't know, honestly. I have been thinking it over. We saw the worth of a defense that can create turnovers when he was in the lineup. We saw what happens to our defense when he plays. I have a feeling that he was as much the answer as any other individual on the team. For that I'm willing to spend a little bit and I think we could save a little bit by extending him I'm more than just a three-year deal because I don't think a team is really going to want to throw that much money at him right now. I'd do 4 yrs for $32mm with a fancy up front bonus to put him over $10mm the first two years. And incentives all over. I'd do 4/$26 with major playing time and production incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, billspro said: Me too, but Davis is going to be much cheaper. Is it out yet what we are paying him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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