Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that this is where I chime in and mention Brees and Wilson And there are hundreds who couldn’t. Nothing is absolute, but these parameters matter. 15 hours ago, KzooMike said: One inch shouldn't make that big a difference, unless.... But seriously, I think the 6'0 vs 5'11 is like $100 vs $99.99. I agree, it's a psychological thing and will hurt him. The release point for Big Ben is like a foot higher than a 6-0 guy. And his eyes, nearly half a foot higher. Do we really think that is irrelevant? At a minimun its another hurdle to overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: And there are hundreds who couldn’t. Nothing is absolute, but these parameters matter. The release point for Big Ben is like a foot higher than a 6-0 guy. And his eyes, nearly half a foot higher. Do we really think that is irrelevant? At a minimun its another hurdle to overcome. That’s the point there are always outliers. Guys under 6’0” though haven’t gotten the opportunity. Guys like Brock Osweiler kick around while guys Flutie’s size go to Canada. The NFL should focus more on football skills than “is a guy 5’10 or 6’0?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Hearing from my sources that a lot of teams aren't that high on Rudolph anyway, including the Bills which will certainly disappoint some fans here that want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Well, he is a faith based winner... When I heard him talking about God and volunteer work I said "he's their guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s the point there are always outliers. Guys under 6’0” though haven’t gotten the opportunity. Guys like Brock Osweiler kick around while guys Flutie’s size go to Canada. The NFL should focus more on football skills than “is a guy 5’10 or 6’0?” First of all Flutie was as limited a QB as any NFL QB I’ve seen, so I’m not ready to uphold him as evidence of anything. But in general it Seems like it’s just not that easy. Gamers in college have turned out to be Bums in the NFL too, and practice superstars have stepped out onto the field on game day and been disastrously bad. Conversly guys like Brady who couldn’t keep the starting job in college turn out to headline the GOAT conversation. I do think the wonderlic, starts and completion percentage is closer to a sheer “football” metric over others. No no one has nailed down the formula yet, so there is this mish mosh of overlaid “conventional theories”.. but it I do believe, all other things being equal more often than not: - taller works out better than shorter - more athletic works out better than less athletic - smarter works out better than dumber - stronger works out better than weaker - bigger hands work out better than small hands - faster works better than slower remember these scouts are sifting through hundreds if not thousands of prospect QBs, who all start to look the same. AND it is not very common that the winningest QBs at the collegiate level do so in the pros. Edited January 24, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Did they ever release Mayfield's height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Did they ever release Mayfield's height? 6' 3/8" per Senior Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 6' 3/8" per Senior Bowl Interesting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 6' 3/8" per Senior Bowl He just jumped ahead of Darnold and Rosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Baker Mayfield's height 6' 3/8". Hand size 9.5 inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 5:51 AM, TheTruthHurts said: Take him off your boards. Please let me know right now who would take Tajh Boyd and Johnny Manziel over Carr, Garoppolo, or Bridgewater. Dumb stat. 'Nuff said. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (9 7/8) Tajh Boyd, Clemson (9 5/8) Blake Bortles, Central Florida (9 3/8) Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (9 1/4) Derek Carr, Fresno State (9 1/8) Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois (9 1/4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Would love to see an NBA breakdown of hand size. Most of those guys are genetic freaks, including the shorter point guards. John Stockton was known to have massive hands, Rajon Rando i something like 6'2" with an 84" wingspan. Simply crazy. I found this on reddit, some guy talking about Michael Jordan's hand size relative to his own: "Jordan's hands are huge. I have really big hands. I can play an 11th on the piano. At 9.75" my hands are bigger than many NFL QBs (per combine measurements)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Would love to see an NBA breakdown of hand size. Most of those guys are genetic freaks, including the shorter point guards. John Stockton was known to have massive hands, Rajon Rando i something like 6'2" with an 84" wingspan. Simply crazy. I found this on reddit, some guy talking about Michael Jordan's hand size relative to his own: "Jordan's hands are huge. I have really big hands. I can play an 11th on the piano. At 9.75" my hands are bigger than many NFL QBs (per combine measurements)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 There’s significant danger in having hands that are too big. Not football related.... wanking related.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I just bumped into Dunkirk Don. His sources are saying that Mason Rudolph doesn't just have tiny hands. Use your imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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