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3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I love you man, but you cray cray.

 

3 points

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2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

3 points

 

Peterman had as many INTs in four plays as Tyrod did the whole game, against the league’s nastiest secondary.

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Peterman had as many INTs in four plays as Tyrod did the whole game, against the league’s nastiest secondary.

 

3 points.   Start him again 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Maybe we score 6 and lose by 4 this time ☠️

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Just now, Teddy KGB said:

 

3 points.   Start him again 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Youre missing the point.

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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Youre missing the point.

 

3 points is the point.    Random qb picked would’ve fared better.   

 

Who plays worse than 130 yards 0 tds ? 

 

Thats a tough feat.  

 

 

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14 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Absolutely not! Taylor's play in that game was abysmal. I strongly believe that in hindsight Peterman with a conservative game play would have been a better option. That's how bad Taylor was in this game. 

 

 

Perhaps but that was McDermott's Flutie vs Johnson decision. If he started Peterman and lost the game, he would never ever live down making that mistake twice. Imho, there was no way McD would have been able to sell that decision to the fan base and post-loss McD would have been skewered in the press and by fans. 

 

Taylor was utterly awful as he has been far too often in his time in Buffalo. But in this game McD had no option but to start him.

 

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Peterman had as many INTs in four plays as Tyrod did the whole game, against the league’s nastiest secondary.

Come on, Coach. It is entirely unfair to say that given the situation Peterman was thrown in. He had no excuses in the Chargers game, but this situation was far too different. Peterman's only choice was to make throws no matter how risky. It was a last gasp effort

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23 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I love you man, but you cray cray.

People still believing in Tay Tay are cray cray 😜 

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6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

3 points is the point.    Random qb picked would’ve fared better.   

 

Who plays worse than 130 yards 0 tds ? 

 

Thats a tough feat.  

 

 

 

Random QB?

 

Future HOF QB Ben Roethlisberger threw something like 5 picks against Jacksonville and lost.    So, your random QB thing holds zero credibility.

 

Better QB play without turnovers would have won the game.    A better playing Tyrod could have won the game.   Any random QB - nope don't think so.   That random QB still would have had to play a great game.

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Just now, PolishDave said:

 

Random QB?

 

Future HOF QB Ben Roethlisberger threw something like 5 picks against Jacksonville and lost.    So, your random QB thing holds zero credibility.

 

Better QB play without turnovers would have won the game.    A better playing Tyrod could have won the game.   Any random QB - nope don't think so.   That random QB still would have had to play a great game.

 

This.  I hate the “anyone but” culture that has infected this society.  Think harder, people!

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5 INTs by Big Ben? 

Hes a bum. Why did he ever play another game ?

 

Ben didn’t have his head in straight with his talk of retirement early in the season.  

 

We've posted list after list of HOF QBs that have thrown 4, 5, 6 and 7 INTs in a game.  

 

It happens 

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56 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Your response makes little sense to me.

 

This doesn't surprise me.  I think you're probably a smart guy, and a good guy, but you just don't seem able to carefully read someone's response for meaning, and actually respond to any points they raise.  This is what you actually said:

 

"The backdrop to that desperate decision was that the running qb had a string of ineffective games where not only did he play poorly but he couldn't execute the offense. So a change was made. You can disagree with the decision but there was an understandable rationale behind it. Anyone who watched the play of Taylor in the Jacksonville should be more receptive and understanding to that desperate player change. I'll go even so far as to say that if Peterman started in the playoff game the Bills would have had a better chance to win."

 

I think it's pretty clear that you're arguing McDermott and Dennison made the decision they had to make (rather than a puzzling decision given Peterman's evident lack of readiness), and that if they made the same decision in the Jags game we would have had a better chance.  If you want to say it's an "understandable amd justifyable decision" and not "no choice" whatevs, but it's choosing semantics over substantive discussion, and not responding to any of my points.

 

Peace out!

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14 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

 

Random QB?

 

Future HOF QB Ben Roethlisberger threw something like 5 picks against Jacksonville and lost.    So, your random QB thing holds zero credibility.

 

Better QB play without turnovers would have won the game.    A better playing Tyrod could have won the game.   Any random QB - nope don't think so.   That random QB still would have had to play a great game.

 

13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

This.  I hate the “anyone but” culture that has infected this society.  Think harder, people!

 

Ok random qb “x” would have scored 3 or less as well.      You have convinced me.  

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Just now, Teddy KGB said:

Ok random qb “x” would have scored 3 or less as well.      You have convinced me.  

 

Yes.   A random qb could have scored 3 or less in that game as well.    Or the offense could have scored more but still lost because the QB turned the ball over more.    Those are all real possibilities.

 

I see you are learning.   That is a good thing.  :thumbsup:

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36 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Perhaps but that was McDermott's Flutie vs Johnson decision. If he started Peterman and lost the game, he would never ever live down making that mistake twice. Imho, there was no way McD would have been able to sell that decision to the fan base and post-loss McD would have been skewered in the press and by fans. 

 

Taylor was utterly awful as he has been far too often in his time in Buffalo. But in this game McD had no option but to start him.

 

Come on, Coach. It is entirely unfair to say that given the situation Peterman was thrown in. He had no excuses in the Chargers game, but this situation was far too different. Peterman's only choice was to make throws no matter how risky. It was a last gasp effort

 

Agreed on both points.  I've said elsewhere that if it's true Dennison lobbied to start Peterman vs Chargers, the "ultimate sin" of making your boss look like a fool in public was a main reason he got fired.  From the point of view of having his judgement scrutinized by his boss and peers (leave alone the fanbase), he couldn't afford to risk a repeat.

 

Also agree, Peterman was put in a tough spot at the end of the game.  He had to throw, against a team that knew he had to throw.

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2 hours ago, JohnC said:

 I strongly believe that in hindsight Peterman with a conservative game play would have been a better option. . 

 

 

Worst football take I have ever seen in 2 decades on TSW.

 

Could not be farther from correct.

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11 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

He posted an 1000 yard 9 td performance as a rookie. He also was a machine on critical 3rd downs. 

 

No need to roll the bus over him to prop up Taylor.   

 

The Panthers with their stable of lackluster WRs had no trouble offloading this guy on a team that had offensive problems in the middle of the season.  

 

And he's injury prone. 

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Worst football take I have ever seen in 2 decades on TSW.

 

Could not be farther from correct.

Apparently you didn't watch Taylor play in the Jacksonville game. He was wretched in that game. A less than mediocre Orton caliber of game would have had us moving on.  This Taylor discussion will soon be over with because he won't be a member of the Bills. 

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On 1/11/2018 at 2:42 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

Great stuff.

 

Mills was garbage in this game and shouldn’t be a starter in the NFL.

 

Benjamin is either very injured or incredibly disinterested.

 

These receivers and tight ends get zero separation and it was negligent of Beane to let the roster look like this.

 

Torn meniscuis 

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9 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Apparently you didn't watch Taylor play in the Jacksonville game. He was wretched in that game. A less than mediocre Orton caliber of game would have had us moving on.  This Taylor discussion will soon be over with because he won't be a member of the Bills. 

Amen John 

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33 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Apparently you didn't watch Taylor play in the Jacksonville game. He was wretched in that game. A less than mediocre Orton caliber of game would have had us moving on.  This Taylor discussion will soon be over with because he won't be a member of the Bills. 

 

 

 

Kyle Orton once threw for nearly 500 yards in an NFL game...........Nate Peterman threw 5 interceptions in a single half.........the worst single QB performance since the AFL/NFL merger.    

 

There is a VAST amount of territory in the QB landscape between Nate Peterman and a Kyle Orton. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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