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10 hours ago, Rob's House said:
16 hours ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said:

Stop with your nonsense. Lucks career is not over you blow hard

I cannot believe shady ia not band from the site he knows nothing bout football and posts nonsense all the time

His career is far from over. When healthy he's got an arm like a rocket. I bet by the end of the next season his nickname will be Rocket Man.

 

That is the question I was alluding to.   When will he be healthy?   Is it scaring away HC candidates?  

 

 

If not for this quote I wouldn't have seen Ignored Chads comments.  I clearly posted what rumors I heard.  I don't intentionally fabricate stories. 

 

BTW the word is banned,  not band.

 

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Living as I do just outside of Indy, I can give you a feel for what goes on here.  Irsay looks upon Luck in a manner similar to Manning, like he's his son.  The only way Luck does not stay with the team is if, as with Manning, Irsay decides to let him go because he's convinced he would be doing himself permanent harm by continuing to play. 

 

Looking back at Manning, Irsay really felt Manning would become paralyzed if he kept playing, so he let him go.  Not the same scenario with Luck.  So Luck stays in Indy.  The real question around here is whether Luck will play next year or not.  Everything is shrouded in mystery, including him going over to Europe for some mystery treatments for his shoulder.  He keeps missing estimated timelines for when he's supposed to be throwing again.  So even if Luck somehow became available in a trade, the only reason would be that he physically can't play, so you wouldn't want him anyway.

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There's a reason good teams say building through the draft is the way to go. With the exception of this year, when was the last time you saw the Patriots spend big in free agency? Obviously those free agents are highly sought after, and you correctly stated that it's because they have proven something in this league. That's why a Kirk Cousins type player, a middle to upper-middle level qb is likely going to be pulling in close to or even exceeding 30M per year once he signs a contract. How much is Philly paying Wentz? But he was playing great. 

 

Youre right in what you are saying, but there's a reason teams pay GMs, head coaches and an entire armada of scouts a metric crap ton of money to go watch college football games. A good team can identify talent and find good players all throughout the draft, and hopefully identify a franchise passer. We have to trust them until its proven they are incapable, and then we hire a new one. 

 

Whaley was particularly bad at drafting, and made most of his biggest splashes in free agency. The results: a .500 team that was damn near pushing the salary cap every year. If that's what you want more of, that's your perogotive, but I would rather put my faith in Beane and McD and hope they can put together solid drafts the next two years and give us a team ready to make a run. 

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19 hours ago, BobChalmers said:

Hmm - overpay a bit for Cousins (or Garrapolo) and keep all your picks or (broken) Luck and trade away all your picks....

 

hmmm...

 

Both will cost you about as much $$$$$$$

Not a chance Garropolo comes to Buffalo and I can't imagine Cousins picking Buffalo. Would Smith want to play here and would Reid make that trade if Smith was opposed to it? I think Minne keeps Keenum. I see no evidence Bridgewater is an improvement. Who does that leave?

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21 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...this gang (THANKFULLY) is NOT going to spend major draft capital in trades or FA period......they built it up to build this club through the draft.......may see them offering a 2nd or 3rd to KC for Smith, but that is about it IMO.....I see them taking the safe and perhaps un-sexy Rudolph in the 1st around 20 something and then focusing on OL/DL......

I'll be honest. I only read the first 4 words of the title before responding.

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1 minute ago, yungmack said:

Not a chance Garropolo comes to Buffalo and I can't imagine Cousins picking Buffalo. Would Smith want to play here and would Reid make that trade if Smith was opposed to it? I think Minne keeps Keenum. I see no evidence Bridgewater is an improvement. Who does that leave?

 

I don't think Reid gives a wet fart about what Smith wants if he can get solid compensation for him with a QB waiting in the wings. The thing about Smith is he's 33 and not elite, so you are still looking at drafting a QB if you pick him up so you're just using up more capital there that could go to fixing up other parts of the team. 

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Just now, ndirish1978 said:

 

I don't think Reid gives a wet fart about what Smith wants if he can get solid compensation for him with a QB waiting in the wings. The thing about Smith is he's 33 and not elite, so you are still looking at drafting a QB if you pick him up so you're just using up more capital there that could go to fixing up other parts of the team. 

Which is why I don't favor bringing him in. He will cost at least one of those first round picks and you haven't really solved the franchise QB problem.

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6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I'll be honest. I only read the first 4 words of the title before responding.

 

...LOL.....and I agree.....Beane/McD are NOT: "...Whole Draft Ditka for Ricky......Vikes boatload for Herschel.....Boy Danny Snyder's king's ransom for RG II5/8".......ain't happening...

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3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

I don't think Reid gives a wet fart about what Smith wants if he can get solid compensation for him with a QB waiting in the wings. The thing about Smith is he's 33 and not elite, so you are still looking at drafting a QB if you pick him up so you're just using up more capital there that could go to fixing up other parts of the team. 

I think Reid does care. Besides, would you want a guy who doesn't want to be here?

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2 minutes ago, yungmack said:

I think Reid does care. Besides, would you want a guy who doesn't want to be here?

 

I think both points are irrelevant. This is a business, you get what you can for assets you aren't using and similarly you play for whomever holds the rights to your contract. Shady didn't "want" to be here at first and then he got acclimated and now loves the area, I don't think caring or feelings means much at all as a deterrent for a deal, even if it's a deal I don't want. The bigger issue is he's old and his contract is ending soon. I wouldn't want him just for that. 

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17 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...LOL.....and I agree.....Beane/McD are NOT: "...Whole Draft Ditka for Ricky......Vikes boatload for Herschel.....Boy Danny Snyder's king's ransom for RG II5/8".......ain't happening...

You do understand how an NFL draft works, don't you? You don't get to move up just because you feel like it; you have to give something to do that. And to get close to where the Bills need to be to get one of the supposedly premiere QBs, it is going to take multiple picks. Supposedly that's why they've been collecting all those picks. So if anybody's in Ditka mode, it's OBD. In any case, whether you go all in to draft a top QB, or you go after him thru a trade, it's going to cost a lot. Or you could wait till free agency and hope a decent one is available and is willing to play for Buffalo. I find the last one to be magical thinking.

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