Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 There are a lot of them. I have a bunch in my head. I was writing this post in the Alex Smith thread but decided to make it an open thread to discuss a lot of them. The one I will start with is that just because a player is better than another, he is better for your team than the lesser player. This happens all the time. The Bills aren't good enough overall, nor will they be likely in the next year or two, for a game manager guy like Alex Smith, whom I like a lot, to win it all. It's possible, of course, that the line and coaching and WR on offense will take a giant leap next season but it isn't likely. And while Smith is pretty mobile, and a LOT more accurate than Tyrod, his actual production unless the line and coaching and WR are substantially upgraded, will likely be marginal. IMO there are like 5-6 QBs in the league who are better overall quarterbacks who would be worse than Tyrod on this team. He disguises a lot of deficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Patriots** didn't/don't need to cheat to be good 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, stevewin said: Patriots** didn't/don't need to cheat to be good I like that one. I don't think they need to cheat to win, and yet they still do, which to me makes their cheating worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Anything RE: The Petermania Game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: I like that one. I don't think they need to cheat to win, and yet they still do, which to me makes their cheating worse. Well - I'm saying it is a misconception. I believe fully they were good BECAUSE they cheated, and have benefited from it ever since (aside from likely (IMO) still cheating - Brady learning how to play the position of QB for years by knowing what the defense was before snapping the ball is an advantage unprecedented in sports history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I was going to say "The Patriots wouldn't cheat because they don't need to, look at how badly they beat the Colts after they took away Brady's allegedly deflated balls!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 That the chargers game was the reason we wouldn't make the playoffs, but the media ignoring that TT couldn't beat cinncy or NY.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevewin said: Well - I'm saying it is a misconception. I believe fully they were good BECAUSE they cheated, and have benefited from it ever since (aside from likely (IMO) still cheating - Brady learning how to play the position of QB for years by knowing what the defense was before snapping the ball is an advantage unprecedented in sports history) I understand. It's funny that we both think the same thing is a huge misconception, for diametrically opposed reasons. I do think they cheat. A lot. I also just think they are great without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The NFL and Fox seem to think Rob Riggle is funny He's not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 fans and media really think they know more than coaches do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Anything RE: The Petermania Game. I don't think there was any misconception to that at all. He was historically awful and not ready. It was an egregious mistake. The idea from anyone that the Bills would have won with Tyrod is just ridiculous, and I think it was possible but unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: I understand. It's funny that we both think the same thing is a huge misconception, for diametrically opposed reasons. I do think they cheat. A lot. I also just think they are great without it. Ha - I get it. If you do think they cheat though - there has to be some amount of reasonable doubt in your mind that they wouldn't be as good ('great') without it? That it contributes (perhaps greatly) to the success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The complexity of the game. 95 percent of the league is made up by barbarians. The thinkers like Brady and Peyton are a rare exception. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The importance of the overly scrutinized, yet obviously meaningless, micro-stats that journals spew. "Tyrod Taylor has a 2-0 all time record when playing on the first Sunday in Nocember vs a team who's head coach graduated with honors from and SEC school" 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, stevewin said: Ha - I get it. If you do think they cheat though - there has to be some amount of reasonable doubt in your mind that they wouldn't be as good ('great') without it? That it contributes (perhaps greatly) to the success? Good question. My feeling about it has a bunch of different factors. I don't think they can cheat all the time. It's obvious to me regardless of the cheating that Belichick is a genius on offense and defense, and devises great game plans, and finds nobody OL that keep this thing going, and finds guys like Dion Lewis that perform great for him. And that Brady is the most accurate passer I have ever seen regardless of cheating, and makes plays in the clutch that are so consistent they are inarguable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 "Momentum" during a game is a thing that impacts the game based on who has it and who doesn't. It is not a thing. "Trap game" is a thing. It is also not a thing. There are many of these "sports-isms" that sort of sound about right, and seem to kind of make sense, but really have no basis in reality and in fact are false. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I've also always never understand when journalists or broadcasters focus on the quarterback statistics when they play head to head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 That everyone in Buffalo brings dildos to Pats games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: "Momentum" during a game is a thing that impacts the game based on who has it and who doesn't. It is not a thing. "Trap game" is a thing. It is also not a thing. There are many of these "sports-isms" that sort of sound about right, and seem to kind of make sense, but really have no basis in reality and in fact are false. Yep. Another one, which few here I imagine will agree with, is the importance, and more so, the significance of "halftime adjustments." I'm not saying they don't exist. But teams, especially good ones, make adjustments in the first and second and third and fourth quarters that often have way more influence on the game. A LOT of times teams playing poorly DON'T make halftime adjustments and then play way better the second half and fans just assume they do. They believe in their game plan and think they just didnt do it right. A great example was today. After the game a reporter asked a Titan - I think it was Mariotta even - what adjustments they made at halftime because the second half was way different than the first and he said "Nothing." And then we did what we planned on doing all along. Edited January 7, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The importance of sacks. imo one of the least important stats. you only really have a few per game. But penalties (which don't even show up on most stat sheets) are three times more common and have a somewhat similar effect on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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