SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 A couple years ago I commented that Sammy Watkins would be injury prone and basically the same as Brandon LaFell ( Check my old comments). I was abused by this board received warnings from mods for defending myself and I stand here today to show just what has happened with these two players. Since 2014: LaFell receptions: 224 yards: 2957 TD:18 Watkins: receptions: 184 yards: 2987 TD:23 *Includes this years stats so far i hope we we win Sunday and get some help to get in the playoffs. The last game I was at was the Jacksonville game in ‘99 with flutie taking in the bootleg. I just want to make a point that we need players who are good, available, and mesh with the team. Coach Mac has the right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Do you have anymore wisdom for us? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 This is a rather disoriented thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Sure Sean what’s the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is a rather disoriented thread. My point was an ‘I told you so’ from before Sammy ever took a snap. Also, that we didn’t need him and I’m still a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, SJDK said: Sure Sean what’s the question? So Watkins has more yards and more touchdowns on ~20% let receptions. What is your point again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 40 fewer catches but more yards and TDs sure does point to Sammy being a different type of player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: My point was an ‘I told you so’ from before Sammy ever took a snap. Also, that we didn’t need him and I’m still a fan Your told you so is ringing hollow since he hasn't missed a game all season long and he's a key player on a division champion with the highest scoring offense in the league. Keep chopping. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: So Watkins has more yards and more touchdowns on ~20% let receptions. What is your point again? That he is basically exactly as productive as Brandon LaFell and the original point in March of 2014 was that he wasn’t worth that first round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: That he is basically exactly as productive as Brandon LaFell and the original point in March of 2014 was that he wasn’t worth that first round pick Your point doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your told you so is ringing hollow since he hasn't missed a game all season long and he's a key player on a division champion with the highest scoring offense in the league. Keep chopping. Or least as 'key' as the 4th leading receiver on the team can be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, KD in CA said: Or least as 'key' as the 4th leading receiver on the team can be. There's another boxscore scout who doesn't get impact beyond numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your told you so is ringing hollow since he hasn't missed a game all season long and he's a key player on a division champion with the highest scoring offense in the league. Keep chopping. He’s missed games this year. You should also check this years stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: He’s missed games this year. You should also check this years stats. He's missed no games this season. You should stop now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: There's another boxscore scout who doesn't get impact beyond numbers. ....says Mr. Cut & Paste, while he pines for the glory days of Tyrod to Sammy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: 40 fewer catches but more yards and TDs sure does point to Sammy being a different type of player. That is true but the other part of my comment was about how injury prone he is. If your best ability is your availability then where does this put Sammy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, KD in CA said: ....says Mr. Cut & Paste, while he pines for the glory days of Tyrod to Sammy! Name calling won't hide your ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's missed no games this season. You should stop now. I stand corrected, I thought he missed Seattle because he was completely erased. And the 3 other games where he caught one pass were forgetable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: So Watkins has more yards and more touchdowns on ~20% let receptions. What is your point again? That's not a huge accomplishment or anything...He's got marginally better stats than LaFell. Neat? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: I stand corrected, I thought he missed Seattle because he was completely erased. And the 3 other games where he caught one pass were forgetable. The premise of your OP is plain wrong on the numbers and the issue of him being injury prone. Failed thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's missed no games this season. You should stop now. You should see how LaFell and Watkins stack up against each other this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, BigDingus said: That's not a huge accomplishment or anything...He's got marginally better stats than LaFell. Neat? That's not a marginal difference by the numbers. Your calculations are awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 You clearly havent consulted with the koolaid crowd. That entire Rams offense runs through Sambo. Hes the greatest decoy in the history the game and is signing a minimum deal if 10 years 350 million this offseason. Gurley probably doesnt break 100 yards for the season without Sammy luring all 11 defenders his way on every play. Your problem is you just dont understand the game or your just a hateful hater of hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SJDK said: You should see how LaFell and Watkins stack up against each other this season Does LaFell draw the #1 CB each week? Nope, that's AJ Green. There is no comparison. LaFell has 50 catches for 513 yards and 3 TDs Watkins has 39 catches for 593 yards with 8 TDs Edited December 29, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The premise of your OP is plain wrong on the numbers and the issue of him being injury prone. Failed thread. He’s missed 11/63 games. But when looking beyond the box scores one can see that he has often been trotted out there when unhealthy only to have a lack of effort when the ball doesn’t hit him in the numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: He’s missed 11/63 games. But when looking beyond the box scores one can see that he has often been trotted out there when unhealthy only to have a lack of effort when the ball doesn’t hit him in the numbers Your thread and your points are embarrassingly bad. I'm out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Edited December 29, 2017 by THEHARDTRUTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your thread and your points are embarrassingly bad. I'm out. I appreciate your input and I hope you have a great night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, THEHARDTRUTH said: Funny how I never hear the National media, many of whom are ex players, go on about the huge impact good ol Sambo is having on the Rams offense. Why dont you dig up some articles for us so we can be enlightened. There must be thousands of them. Do your own research since you seem to be so certain. Sambo? The hard truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Do your own research since you seem to be so certain. Sambo? The hard truth No need. Im sure hes the greatest cause you said so. Probably looking at 35 mill a year over 15 years with a 175 million dollar signing bonus. Guys like Antonio Brown are chumps. They could never be the decoy Sambo is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Does LaFell draw the #1 CB each week? Nope, that's AJ Green. There is no comparison. LaFell has 50 catches for 513 yards and 3 TDs Watkins has 39 catches for 593 yards with 8 TDs Yeah pretty similar. Sammy has more touchdowns but he does not have Andy Dalton to depend on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, SJDK said: Yeah pretty similar. Sammy has more touchdowns but he does not have Andy Dalton to depend on. Similar? No. Watkins has 80 more yards and 5 more TDs on 11 less catches and 15 less targets. He's created 33 1st downs to 23 for LaFell. It's not even close and Watkins draws the assignment of the #1 CB each week often with Safety help. You should stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: No need. Im sure hes the greatest cause you said so. Probably looking at 35 mill a year over 15 years with a 175 million dollar signing bonus. Guys like Antonio Brown are chumps. They could never be the decoy Sambo is. Hahaha! Nobody in nfl history has ever mastered the following quite like Sammy: step 1- beat defender off line step 2- defender touches him step 3- raise arms and look at ref while catchable ball flies past him within his catch radius. hall of fame. 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Similar? No. Watkins has 80 more yards and 5 more TDs on 11 less catches and 15 less targets. He's created 33 1st downs to 23 for LaFell. It's not even close and Watkins draws the assignment of the #1 CB each week often with Safety help. You should stop. Yes, through 15 games that is indeed similar *edit off not of Edited December 29, 2017 by SJDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Rams are 11-4. Let’s laugh at them ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: 40 fewer catches but more yards and TDs sure does point to Sammy being a different type of player. Sammy was never a bad wr. He was just painted that way by ignorant fans. It was always about the qb. And if the Rams are smart they resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Does LaFell draw the #1 CB each week? Nope, that's AJ Green. There is no comparison. LaFell has 50 catches for 513 yards and 3 TDs Watkins has 39 catches for 593 yards with 8 TDs Not an impressive year for a #1 WR by any stretch of the imagination. Watkins is not nearly as good as some make him out to be. He certainly isn't elite, and my guess is he never will be. 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Similar? No. Watkins has 80 more yards and 5 more TDs on 11 less catches and 15 less targets. He's created 33 1st downs to 23 for LaFell. It's not even close and Watkins draws the assignment of the #1 CB each week often with Safety help. You should stop. All of which makes Sammy an average WR in the NFL. Good for him. The good WR's can deal with a #1 CB and safety help and still put up yards and TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, SJDK said: That is true but the other part of my comment was about how injury prone he is. If your best ability is your availability then where does this put Sammy? While a valid concern... he’s not been awful outside one major injury that followed a predictable, albeit it slow, timeline also, when he’s out- someone steps up and plays and has production in his spot. So I’d argue Sammy producing that in 10 games plus whatever his backup does for 6 is better than lafell producing what he does in 16. Is rather be very good for a portion than mediocre the whole way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, SJDK said: Hahaha! Nobody in nfl history has ever mastered the following quite like Sammy: step 1- beat defender off line step 2- defender touches him step 3- raise arms and look at ref while catchable ball flies past him within his catch radius. hall of fame. Eric moulds used to do this all the time. It drove me nuts. Don't recall sammy doing it much. Edited December 29, 2017 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, SJDK said: Hahaha! Nobody in nfl history has ever mastered the following quite like Sammy: step 1- beat defender off line step 2- defender touches him step 3- raise arms and look at ref while catchable ball flies past him within his catch radius. hall of fame. Yes, through 15 games that is indeed similar *edit off not of I’ll push on “similar” here— post their YPC and TD per target stats and see how similar they look. roll in Sammy facing the double teams, and having a lot of other options to target on the team.... well, I’d venture if Sammy lined up across from green the gap between he and lefell only widens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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