Foreigner Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 The Bills most likely will go QB looking after the season, but we need to be reminded while offensive Football is a 11 man game; just because a team has a expensive (which should mean successful) QB, it does not necessarily mean success in the NFL. Before this season, contracts were signed by Derek Caar for 5 years at $125,000,000 and Matthew Stafford for 6 years and $151,000,000. The guaranteed money was for $70M and $80M respectfully. And by the way, Tyrod Taylor's contract was for 2 years at $30,500,000 with $15,5M guaranteed. So bringing in a so called top veteran QB at big bucks doesn't mean much if you ask the Raiders or Lions. As for the draft, we all know it is a crap shoot., but even getting a franchise guy means nothing unless the O and D is upgraded, and we all know where that needs to be done in Buffalo. As for JG in SF, that is the exception in the draft. He sat and learned for 3 years from perhaps the greatest QB ever to play the game. I doubt if he came right out of the draft and started immediately that he would be as good as he is today. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 ^^ Has an excellent grasp on the English language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I totally agree. QB is a brutal position to play nowadays as far as scrunity. Few years ago with Manning, Brady, Rodgers ,Luck running the NFL, the QB position got extremely overvalued. Ppl make it seem like it's a cure all for the whole team, it's the most important position in the game,but besides some once in a decade QB's , they need a very good supporting cast to succeed, wish Taylor had that opportunity and praying we get in the playoffs! Tyrod can break down a defense, our defense can beat up offense, need to be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I'm not a big Tyrod fan, but you have to admit that with the Sammy trade, the play calling, and the skill level of the WR group, it is no wonder he's had some struggles. That being said, it is very aggravating to watch him struggle with simple stuff like throwing the ball away, and his unwillingness to attempt risky throws. His price/performance ratio is probably tops in the league, so from a business perspective, it makes sense to keep him and draft the QB of the future and have an open competition at training camp. Spending $100 million on Cousins and hitching your wagon to him for the next 5 years is a high risk/high reward move. He could trip on a mat in training camp and be out a whole year, and never come back as the same player, while the rest of the positions would be filled with mediocrity because there was no $$ to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Not sure of the salary, but Phillip Rivers and Joe Flacco hopefully will be joining them Sunday. Add Marcus Mariota (maybe) and Jameis "Crab Legs" Winston to the franchise QBs sitting out the playoffs. Russell Wilson may be too. Add Suck for Luck and Watson and Rodgers due to injury. Trbisky. Meanwhile Alex Smith and Case Keenum are in. I thought if you had a franchise QB you were set? I'm confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Team game. If your O Line or Defense suck, you can have Y.A. Tittle back there and you ain't goin' anywhere relative to playoffs. Ask Wilson and Winston how it went this year running for their lives all game every game. Ask Luck how much fun it is to have to score 40 to win. It's a team game. Unfortunately, the NFL changed the f ing rules so much to make it a higher scoring passing game which fans will sit through dozens of million dollar Bud Light commercials to watch, the QB position rules the game... which eventually found its way into the wildly overpriced QB contracts of today. Now everyone thinks you get a QB and its all good cuz the rules favor passing. You still need the rest of the team in order to win consistently. Edited December 28, 2017 by 8-8 Forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Everyone knew what a total farce Stafford’s contract was from the signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Not sure of the salary, but Phillip Rivers and Joe Flacco hopefully will be joining them Sunday. Add Marcus Mariota (maybe) and Jameis "Crab Legs" Winston to the franchise QBs sitting out the playoffs. Russell Wilson may be too. Add Suck for Luck and Watson and Rodgers due to injury. Trbisky. Meanwhile Alex Smith and Case Keenum are in. I thought if you had a franchise QB you were set? I'm confused. Alex Smith is a franchise QB. How many of those QB's have missed the playoffs 17 years straight? I'll hang up and listen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Just now, jmc12290 said: Alex Smith is a franchise QB. How many of those QB's have missed the playoffs 17 years straight? I'll hang up and listen. I agree on Alex. I just put his name in because I read on here at least once a day that Alex = Hotrod. How many of those QBs have been playing for 17 years? Edited December 28, 2017 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, reddogblitz said: I agree on Alex. How many of those QBs have been playing for 17 years? They didn't need to. Almost all of them made the playoffs in FAR less time than 17 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, jmc12290 said: They didn't need to. Almost all of them made the playoffs in FAR less time than 17 years. gotta be getting close to 17 for Rivers though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: gotta be getting close to 17 for Rivers though ... What? No. He made the playoffs 4 seasons ago. Edited December 28, 2017 by jmc12290 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Do have to get in the argument over what highest paid quarterbacks make the playoffs and what don't?? They do usually make the playoffs. They do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 This is a dumb argument. Packers went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst when Rogers got hurt. Colts went from best team in the league to first overall pick when Peyton Manning got hurt. A great QB can win you Super Bowls and playoffs for DECADES. Are there exceptions? Sure. Carr had a bad year and Stanford has never been Elite. Do I want to swing for the fences and hope to lock in the single most important position on the field for decades? Of course I do. If you’re not thinking that way, you are dumb. Period. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Gugny said: ^^ Has an excellent grasp on the English language. He is Foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: He is Foreigner. But does he want to know what love is? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I agree completely. There needs to be a balance. Look at the Dolphins. If I’m not mistaken, their two highest contracts are Suh and Tannehill. Even if both were healthy all season, they would have likely missed the playoffs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I have no idea what this thread is about! I don't recall ANYONE saying that if the Bills paid Tyrod a fortune then they're bound to be a playoff team. It doesn't work in reverse. First you have to be a good QB, and then you get paid....and probably make the playoffs. Not guaranteed. Sheeesh This year's playoffs will feature Brady, Big Ben, Drew Bree's, Cam Newton, Alex Smith, and Matt Ryan. Looks like a pretty solid list to me. Even more so if you throw in Phillip Rivers and the two top draft picks from last year (even if Wentz is injured). Who cares if Detroit didn't make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: But does he want to know what love is? No, but he’s having Double Vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Gugny said: ^^ Has an excellent grasp on the English language. It's a good match for his grasp on logic and reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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