Billsfan1972 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 From the offense. You would think by accident any NFL QB can throw for 300 yards in a game. I've posted this again and again and am just confounded, perplexed and stupefied that this team can't/won't have a game plan that has them throwing for 300 yards (heck 250 would be something) EVER!!!!! The NFL over and over is a game that comes down to getting the ball in the endzone and being CAPABLE of throwing the ball. There is not a single team that can count on winning games 20-17 that has any chance for success. Why do we have a coaching staff who refuses to recognize this? And no it is not all TT's fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 yes 300 yards is extremely important...299 yards would be a complete and utter failure. would you accept 299.5 yards? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Our newest coaching staff and FO can't (attempt to) build Rome in a day, let alone one season. Edited December 21, 2017 by JimKellyTryouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Who cares about wins? As long as we get 300 yards passing, all is well! You do realize this team is built around running the ball, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Why is everyone concerned about the stats? There is only one stat that matters - Wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 this is a stupid thread and I am stupid for posting in it 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I'd like to see the Bills pass more, but this rant is a little out of bounds. 300 yards passing is not the be all and end all. In fact, it's usually the case that when your passing totals get up over 300 yards, you're losing. But there's another reason the Bills's totals are low, and that is that the defense is a bend don't break defense that has had more plays run against it than just about any other team in the league. They give up a lot of yards. The result is the Bills are right near the bottom of the league in time of possession. So the offense has the ball less than just any other team in the league. Add to that the fact (that many people don't like) that the Bills want to run (and are pretty good at it), and you get low passing totals. Sorry, but that's the way it is. If the Bills were 5-9, I'd be whining along with you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: Who cares about wins? As long as we get 300 yards passing, all is well! You do realize this team is built around running the ball, right? C’mon, let the OP have his cake and eat it too. He wishes to tout a meaningless statistic but then say they the central character in achieving the statistic is not at fault. It’s a perfect deflection of reality. The truth is that NFL teams have to be able to run and pass the ball effectively. Some lucky teams, because they have great QB’s, can run much less because the NFL has stacked the rules in favor of a strong arial attack. Being built around running the ball is all well and good except when the opposing defense so completely shuts down your run game that the team becomes reliant on it’s offense to be able to pass the ball effectively. This may or may not mean achieving the illustrious 300 yard game the OP calls for. It certainly does mean efficiently and repeatedly moving the ball and scoring through the air. Now please keep in mind that there are many around here that believe TT can do exactly this. Why, remains a mystery to me personally as the results do not reflect this reality. Therefore, results be damned, it must be on the coaching staff which is exactly the point to OP makes. We’ve landed in nirvana, we should change the coaching staff in order to make up for a middling QB. This is the solution! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Never seen this all important statistic discussed before that we all know is a direct reflection of wins and losses in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I get it, but how many times do we need to beat this horse? I mean, Cutler has had plenty of 300+ yard games...that doesn't mean he's the type of QB you want to build around. There's much more to wins, and QB play, than just passing yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I think I understand the OPs point. There will always be games where a shootout is unavoidable. The D has an off day, the opponent is a prolific scoring team or like this Sunday with the patsies*** they're just a dominant foe. Turnovers happen, weather happens, stuff happens. The ability to match your opponent WHEN THE NEED ARRISES is mandatory. I'm hoping the unspoken point he makes is about points, not yards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: From the offense. You would think by accident any NFL QB can throw for 300 yards in a game. I've posted this again and again and am just confounded, perplexed and stupefied that this team can't/won't have a game plan that has them throwing for 300 yards (heck 250 would be something) EVER!!!!! The NFL over and over is a game that comes down to getting the ball in the endzone and being CAPABLE of throwing the ball. There is not a single team that can count on winning games 20-17 that has any chance for success. Why do we have a coaching staff who refuses to recognize this? And no it is not all TT's fault. The infatuation and excuse making for a backup QB wanting him to be better than he is, is beyond mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Well, to defend the OP for a minute: There IS some correlation to the fact that the Bills have had very few (count em on one hand) 300-yard passing games in the last 10 years and the Bills have lost more consistently than they've won. None of us will argue that a good passing attack is a valuable asset in the NFL, much more so than it was 30 years ago. If you have a good passing attack, you're likely to have a shot at winning more games in the 4th quarter than if you don't. If you don't you can win only one way - run the ball, get the lead, hold on. That's tough to do consistently in the NFL. But much like the thread about Murphy and the fans' negativity, I find it difficult to complain about the lack of passing yardage when the team actually is winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 the Saints are better with more running plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Last Sunday the bills threw alot on that first drive and scored. They were able to open up the run game a little, but then for whatever reason they stopped in the 2nd half. Probably because we had a lead and McDermott loves to run out the clock in the 3rd quarter. They need to be more aggressive. I give them credit for taking some deep shots in the 2nd half, but they have to be a little more creative 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I'd like to see the Bills pass more, but this rant is a little out of bounds. 300 yards passing is not the be all and end all. In fact, it's usually the case that when your passing totals get up over 300 yards, you're losing. But there's another reason the Bills's totals are low, and that is that the defense is a bend don't break defense that has had more plays run against it than just about any other team in the league. They give up a lot of yards. The result is the Bills are right near the bottom of the league in time of possession. So the offense has the ball less than just any other team in the league. Add to that the fact (that many people don't like) that the Bills want to run (and are pretty good at it), and you get low passing totals. Sorry, but that's the way it is. If the Bills were 5-9, I'd be whining along with you. Exactly this! So many variables that play into stats. Granted, I think we all can agree that Taylor isn't going to light up the stat sheet with passing yards, regardless of what type of team he has, but to put the microscope on him for the passing yard totals is flawed. In the Chargers game, he had something like 158 yards passing in the second half, but the game was well out of hand by the time he came in. If he had started that game, and put up those numbers in the first half (with a lead), it's fair to assume that he would not reach 300, as the Bills would be more concerned with killing the clock, and running their way to victory. Btw, Taylor's yards gained with his legs count, too, and those plays often convert into first downs. I didn't see anyone complain when he score the TD with his legs against Miami. So they're not passing yards. Football is a game of inches. They're not called "passing inches". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 There are two reasons Tyrod Taylor never reaches 300 yards: 1. The Bills start every single game hoping to establish the run, while carefully protecting the ball on passing plays. Even if we successfully attack downfield through the air on a few plays, the offense will quickly return to run-heavy on the ensuing drives. 2. If the Bills happen to fall behind by 2+ scores, and the offense is forced to pass -- those are the games that Taylor struggles badly with taking sacks, decision-making and accuracy. When the threat to rush is gone, he just isn't good enough to carry the team with his arm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Sure it would be nice to see Tyrod go off & use his GGT to light up the skies with long bombs & 300+ yd games but just like the Bills game against Tampa bay which Winston threw for a bunch of yards & still lost at the end to our QB that didn't put up a ton of yds . Alls i care about is that the Bills win i don't care if it's through the air a lot or a little i just want them to win ! There has been a lot of games this year that the QB has put up insane numbers in the passing game & still have come up on the short end of the stick . I'm no football expert but from anything i've seen to this point i don't think the Bills O will be very good until they get the right O coordinator !! There is a article on Rumblings this morning that says all that needs to be said about this years offense which a number of articles here & on other sites have discussed this year . I don't believe that any of these coaches old or new that are hired by a new team know or understand the old adage that "IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT !!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) One of the most significant statistics in regards to wins and losses is the takeaway number. We are one of the top teams in that statistic and it's are reason why we are in a playoff battle now. Maybe focus on the positive statistics. Edited December 21, 2017 by klos63 x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Christ Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6th best rushing attack......lets quit running and pass more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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