Perry Turtle Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Avisan said: Stretching out to score in no way interrupted his going to the ground, though, which is why he needs to maintain possession. Stretching out to score is a "football move." Or it's not, based on the officiating crew, the team playing, the time left in the game, or the weather. That's the problem. There's no definition for a "football move," which determines possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Agreed. Inconclusive - let it stand. that's the rule. Unless you are playing the Pats***. Then it's "is there anyway we can negate this score." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: He has possession otherwise he wouldn’t be able to extend the ball. Someone who doesn’t have possession can’t extend a ball. As soon as the ball crosss the goal line, it’s dead if someone has possession. The part of him bringing it into his body hen extending it is him making the catch. And, the ball can shift and rock and still be a catch, you are aware of that right? He has to MAINTAIN possession. It's part of catching the ball when going to ground. The ball can shift. The ball can't shift and touch the ground. The moment the point hit the ground, no catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: The problem is that the "complete the process of the catch" is an ill-defined crap rule. The guy moved the ball into his body, extended forward, but didn't have control or possession? It's ridiculous. That was a catch, he had possession before he extended his hands. Fans pay to see plays like this. They don't pay to watch 70 year old accountants in stripped shirts squinting at a replay over and over, trying to find a slight error to get their big moment to overturn a play made by a real athlete. And despite the total BS this rule has called in the past, the ivory-tower executives have done nothing to fix it. Screw the NFL, if you give reason to believe that your league is corrupt, people are going to believe that it is corrupt. The best part is the league will correct the BS we all witnessed "Next Year" Friggin Joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Avisan said: It's a CONSISTENT rule. Otherwise simply getting possession in the endzone on a diving catch would be a TD. There's no magic exception for starting the catch at the 1 yard line. You may be the only guy who like this rule. Good luck you must be a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 On the bright side, we won't have to play a pissed off Patriots team. Way to throw a pick in the endzone Ben when you only needed a FG. Oh, and TY 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Avisan said: You guys aren't thinking straight about this. He was going to the ground as part of the process of making the catch. He dives for it-- he HAS to maintain possession throughout. His hand is under the ball, but it moves and touches the ground slightly-- the ground has officially helped him control the ball, which invalidates the catch. It was the right call. Painful, but the right call. stop shilling for corrupt refs. this was a fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Avisan said: They figured it out as soon as the refs stayed under the booth for more than 20 seconds. It was the right call. Ball rocks, point hits the ground, ground assisted the catch. it took them MUCH longer than 20 seconds. First, it was a TD, second, the call on the field stands even if it's debatable, unless it is conclusive otherwise. It wasn't. And the ground did not "assist" the catch. He catches it if the ground is or is not there. Therefore, there is no "assist" to be had. They need better lawyer refs in the NFL. Edited December 18, 2017 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: once the ball crosses the plane it's a TD. Plain and simple. He caught it before he crossed the plane, he could throw the ball out of his hands after he crosses the plane. He had possession prior. End of discussion. It's a TD. Doesn't matter what happens after the ball crosses the plane. Not how it works. Do you remember the Calvin Johnson TD that got ruled an incomplete? Same principle. If you're going to the ground, you better make darn sure the point doesn't graze the ground if the ball shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 To those arguing it’s a perfect call, if they showed you 59 plays in dispute you couldn’t guess right better than a coin toss on what they decided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, horned dogs said: You may be the only guy who like this rule. Good luck you must be a lawyer. Whether I like it or not is irrelevant. The rule is the rule, and it was correctly applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Avisan said: He has to MAINTAIN possession. It's part of catching the ball when going to ground. The ball can shift. The ball can't shift and touch the ground. The moment the point hit the ground, no catch. He didn’t ever lose possession of the ball. The ball shiftjng and touching the ground while still in someone’s had isn’t lost, it’s just that, the ball moving. Do you realise how silly what you are actually trying to argue? and the call on the field should have stood unless there was irrefutable evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Avisan said: Stretching out to score in no way interrupted his going to the ground, though, which is why he needs to maintain possession. He caught it and stretched it over the goalline. Once it goes over the goalline, it's end of play, TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Success said: Good rule and call. Romeo was right - Ben has to throw a fade on the last play. I’ve never had anything consistently sicken me like the pats. Yep.....It was called properly..... PS: Nice to see you back my friend ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Avisan said: Not how it works. Do you remember the Calvin Johnson TD that got ruled an incomplete? Same principle. If you're going to the ground, you better make darn sure the point doesn't graze the ground if the ball shifts. Who are you Dean !@#$ing Blandino? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Avisan said: When the ball shifts, it rocks, and the point touches the ground. Nothing showed it touching the ground. His hand was on the ground and the ball was in his hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: That Dez play and this one are completely different. Pitts player demonstrated full possession twice in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, horned dogs said: You may be the only guy who like this rule. Good luck you must be a lawyer. Looking at the low low post count, I might guess a Pats* troll is more likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, MattM said: Looking at the low low post count, I might guess a Pats* troll is more likely. That was obvious from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Avisan said: Whether I like it or not is irrelevant. The rule is the rule, and it was correctly applied. You miss everybody's point...this rule has been **** for awhile and it should be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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