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NRC Talks Rex Ryan and What Went Wrong in Buffalo with Tyler Dunne


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17 hours ago, Another Fan said:

So much for being all in!  My favorite quote as I've mentioned here before he said was along the lines of "You'd have to kick me out of here and take me screaming but that's never gonna happen".  It was right after the Jaguars game last year.

 

A month later he went out quietly.  It's all you need to know about the man

It was the first time I was legitimately embarrassed to be a Bills fan. Never in my life had I not wanted to be associated with the Bills or let people know I was a Bills fan.... until this clown rolled into town.

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20 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

It was the first time I was legitimately embarrassed to be a Bills fan. Never in my life had I not wanted to be associated with the Bills or let people know I was a Bills fan.... until this clown rolled into town.

I'll admit I did like the hire at first but soon kinda saw he was a bag of wind

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I also follow the Giants and Jets. I hated the Rex hire. We didnt have the personell to run it properly, and we dismantled a top 10 defense fpr no reason. I admit I am a Rex Ryan fan. The guy is entertaining and if he coulda just got out of the way n kept Schwartz on at DC, and focused on time management, personell on field, and situational football calls, he couldve been great.

 

He jus couldnt let go of the DC in his DNA.

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Just now, CLTbills said:

I didn't like the hire, but I had no choice but to kind of be on board. But it got embarrassing real quick.

 

I texted a good friend of mine who's actually a Browns fan (similarly geographically afflicted youth) right after the hire.  Told him I wasn't sold on the hire because I wasn't sure if he was a good football coach or a buffoon.  He texted me back asking if the two things were mutually exclusive...  turns out they just might be.

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1 hour ago, FearLess Price said:

I also follow the Giants and Jets. I hated the Rex hire. We didnt have the personell to run it properly, and we dismantled a top 10 defense fpr no reason. I admit I am a Rex Ryan fan. The guy is entertaining and if he coulda just got out of the way n kept Schwartz on at DC, and focused on time management, personell on field, and situational football calls, he couldve been great.

 

He jus couldnt let go of the DC in his DNA.

 

So, IOW, if he was something he never was and nothing he ever was - he could have been great?

 

lol

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12 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

So, IOW, if he was something he never was and nothing he ever was - he could have been great?

 

lol

 

Exactly.  If he ignored what he once did well and focused on concepts that he's shown no indication he's aware exist... he coulda been great.  Instead, he tried to run a complicated, antiquated defense when he had too many "L's" and not enough "N's" for his system.  :lol:

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20 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

IMO, he was the worst Head Coach of the drought.

 

He goes right up there with the likes of Hank Bullough and Jim Ringo.


I would not have hired Rex if I was running the team, but when he was hired I was OK with thinking that he had good defenses in the past and between the D we had and a better offense we could end the drought and be a fun good roster like KC.

 

For me as soon as we lost to the Pats in week 2 and got shredded at home with his "vaunted D" I felt something was a miss. Marrone & Mularkey had put up a more disciplined closer fight then Rex did and of all the Bills games in my life I have never seen the team that uncomposed, it was just a disaster in week 2. And that to me pretty much summed up his term throughout. Any time a challenge came where it separated the big boys he failed as a coach.

 

I was embarrassed because of the fact he couldn't keep his mouth shut and for a fanbase that has been starving for something the undelivered promises and ridicule was worse then just having a coach like Jauron who at least stayed quiet while sucking.

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

They were easily a 10, probably 11 to 12 win team with the talent they had in 2015 and 16. 

 

Rex was just so god damn awful.

 

3 hours ago, SDS said:

 

So, IOW, if he was something he never was and nothing he ever was - he could have been great?

 

Greatness is something that can be achieved by even the meekest of creatures, you dont have to be born great. Rex was a great DC in the beginning.

 

We had a top 10 scoring offense* during the rex years (with TT as QB*), if we had kept the 2014 defense and added to the talent pool instead of dismantaling it, we were easily a 10 win playoff team, thats why i think if he managed his time, efforts, and role more wisely, he couldve been a great hire, he just couldnt get out of his own way.

 

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23 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

IMO, he was the worst Head Coach of the drought.

 

He goes right up there with the likes of Hank Bullough and Jim Ringo.

 

100% agree. Dreadful, dreadful Head Coach. Had the best roster of the drought on 2015 too. That team was stacked. 

When the Bills made the playoffs on New Year I got a text from my ex girlfriend who I was with the New Year's eve Marrone quit and a week or two later when Rex was hired. She said "I remember how pissed you were that New Year I hope this one is making up for it and it turned out you were right at the time... Rex Ryan really is a dick."

 

She knows nothing about the NFL and she knew. :D

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If you ever want to learn more about Rex behind the scenes, read "Collision Low Crossers." It was written during the 2011 season after he had just come off back to back AFC Championship games. The book is super well written and very interesting. It portrays Rex as a worker but mainly for the defense. He had Brian Schottenheimer as his OC and he really just let him do his thing without Rex interfering. 

 

I can understand what NRC is saying about the lack of halftime adjustments. In the book there are several instances where it was explained that they had certain plays in the game plan and it always seemed like Rex was waiting for the perfect time to call them but a lot of times just never did. Don't know if he coached scared or wasn't confident in the game plan or plays but he was always working with Mike Pettine and the defensive staff. Evidently, he would come barrelling into Pettine's office with what he felt was a perfect defensive play. He'd draw it up on the board and then Pettine was his counterbalance. Pettine would point out the flaws and Rex would keep changing it until they felt they had something they could actually implement.

 

The book also said at times, when Rex and his coordinators would be pulling all-nighters during the week, Rex would often play as if he was leaving the facility. Around 10 or 11 PM he'd leave, drive his truck around the block a few times and then come back. He did this so other assistants would see it say, "OK, the head coach left, time for us to leave too." 

 

But then he ends up in Buffalo and we've heard from plenty Buffalo media members that Rex seemed to be mailing it in. He was out the door early everyday, and now we know he was lacking a connection to his players. 

 

With all that, it seems to me like Rex has to have a certain set of circumstances and be surrounded by his type of people in order to succeed. Once Pettine and him had a falling out, things went south for the Jets. 

 

But yeah, if anything these comments show how much Rex outsmarted himself. Three or four checks off of one offensive motion? That's whacky. Extremely difficult to have cohesion across the board when you're trying to make a ton of changes at the line. There's a reason a guy like Wade Phillips keeps getting coordinator jobs and excelling at them. He keeps it simple, he finds out what his players do best and builds his scheme around that. I think McDermott has the same philosophy. Coaches always say, "Once Player A has the playbook down, he'll be fine because he'll be able to play fast and not think so much." Well, it's clear now that when you have your players thinking way too much that limits their ability to play fast because they become unsure of what their role is on any given play. The old KISS method, keep it simple, stupid. Rex couldn't do that. 

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