Mr. WEO Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 How is it possible the ownership is OK with this? And is because they are "too classy" that they haven't fired this truly awful HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How is it possible the ownership is OK with this? And is because they are "too classy" that they haven't fired this truly awful HC? ....two words....Jerry Reese......Mara must think the guy walks on water............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....two words....Jerry Reese......Mara must think the guy walks on water............. Mara must have CTE by proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Coughlin weighs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Coughlin weighs in. Tom isn't through fisting the Maras... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, section122 said: Thank you for bringing some sanity to this discussion. Eli was never great but got hot at the right times. I feel for him here because he has done so much he doesn't deserve to be yanked but.... He hasn't been good this year or last. 2015 seems to be that last one year that great players have where they flash and then fade. Tyrod has outplayed him and we know how most fans feel about Tyrod. He has been an ironman however its all but over for him imo. He doesn't strike me as someone who would skirt the rules and go the HGH route (coughbradycough) and hang around. Players SHOULD start to fade in their late 30s. Add a bad oline that allows him to get hit often and I'm surprised his starting game streak has reached the number it has. Some fun Eli facts: Did you know he has a 110-100 record? Did you know he has 3 years of 20+ ints? Did you know he has never completed more than 63.1% of his passes in a season? and a career 59.8%? Did you know he has only thrown for more than 7 ypa 6 out of 14 years starting? Did you know he has a career qb rating of 83.8 which is the same as Joe Flacco? Did you know he has thrown 222 ints in 210 career starts. More than 1 a game Did you know he has thrown 334 tds in 210 career starts. About 1.5 per game. So the average Eli game is 241.3 yards a game combined, 1.5 tds and 1 ints. For comparison Tyrod goes for 238.3 combined, 1.55 tds and .23 ints a game. Somehow out of these numbers Tyrod is garbage and a backup qb at best and Eli is a HOFer. He's also played for 14 seasons. He's leveled off for sure and was never as good as Peyton. However, he slayed the evil empire in the SB twice. Needing to lead a TD drive on his last posession to do so. That's the kind of stuff that will land you in the HOF. I can't envision Tyrod doing that in those situations if you gave him 50 chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Mara must have CTE by proxy. ....OR....Jerry has them pictures............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Bad move, Eli is pissed. And no he's not done. Quarterbacks don't fall off trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: He's also played for 14 seasons. He's leveled off for sure and was never as good as Peyton. However, he slayed the evil empire in the SB twice. Needing to lead a TD drive on his last posession to do so. That's the kind of stuff that will land you in the HOF. I can't envision Tyrod doing that in those situations if you gave him 50 chances. I will forever love Eli for ruining their perfect season. He has just never been an amazing qb. 14 years of starting and numbers almost identical to Tyrod's first couple starting. You can use hypotheticals but they don't really help your argument. If Tyrod is a backup qb at best then how is someone with identical numbers a hofer? He will be and I won't argue it but lets agree that luck had a lot to do with those 2 wins. At his peak Eli was a much better passer that Tyrod. For the majority of his career though he has been Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Bad move, Eli is pissed. And no he's not done. Quarterbacks don't fall off trees. ...actually a good move for Eli....first the OL is putrid....secondly, the Jints, long known for a power running game are 26th at 91 YPG....so Eli gets welcomed in Jax by Coughlin with open arms (saw an article today surmising Elway goes after the "other Manning") and serves as a solid addition to Jax club......Mara deserves Reese/McAdoo anyway....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: W-L isn't a QB stat for a reason. Watch any of their games? Last year Giant's D was outstanding -2nd in the league. This year they kinda suck - I don't know their roster well enough to tell if it's injuries, key FA losses or what - and Eli's WR can't seem to freakin' catch a cold let alone a football. I was talking about the coach, not Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Bad move, Eli is pissed. And no he's not done. Quarterbacks don't fall off trees. Esp for Geno Smith. That's an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, billsfan11 said: What a jerk Ben McAdoo is. They are 2 and 9 and he benches a guy who has an iron streak in the line, who has won 2 superbowls, and has given everything he had to the organization. If they were in a playoff race I would understand it more. But they are 2 and 9.... Very low thing to do. I can't stand McAdoo McAdoo lets Odell run wild including having no reaction to Odell saying he could care less for about his 15 yard unsportsmanlike after a TD. Two of his DB's get suspended for a game each ...and one gets to play the entire game against the 49ers with no effort (Jenkins). And now he sits a franchise legend and complete stand-up team guy who has started every game dating back to 2004 and who bested Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. twice (including the nearly undefeated season)...for GENO SMITH!! Nice job coach there will be some lovely parting gifts on your way out. Edited November 28, 2017 by SinceThe70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Lol....Eli hasnt been that guy for a few years now...long overdue in my opinion...but for Geno??? I dont get it...Smith is a turnover machine almost on par with Peterman.... Eli wasn't having that bad of a season with 14 TDs and 7 INTs for just over 2400 yards, especially since he lost OBJ and Brandon Marshall early and Sterling Shepard missed some games. His 219 yds per game, though, is a drop off from recent seasons (for comparison, TT at 184 yds/game). Also, despite the Giants' O-Line woes, Eli has been sacked only 26 times vs 31 for TT. I remember that Eli struggled some when McAdoo became OC but then had two of the best seasons of his career in 2014 and '15, with 30 TD passes in 2014, 35 in 2015, 14 INTs in both seasons and over 4400 passing yards in each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think mr magoo will get shown the door before end of season imo......shame we cant do the same with dennison.....sorry wrong thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) It's a tank job for the next draft. Geno better then Eli Bye McAdoo Edited November 28, 2017 by ALF added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: How is it possible the ownership is OK with this? And is because they are "too classy" that they haven't fired this truly awful HC? These are both good questions. Maybe ownership is done with Eli and more than happy to let McAdoo fall on the sword. I'd say two birds with one stone but really even before today McAdoo was a dead man walking IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Giants need to clean house with coaches, FO and QB and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Trade for eli 2018 lets get it done boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts