KRT88 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 If he had a true #1 WR and a healthy TE wonder what he could do? Still tons of limitations, doesn't anticipate throws and rarely throws a WR open but he's smart with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 What's his overall record as a starter? yes I consider his s first game as a Bill a start even though officially it isn't. 8-6, 7-8 and now 5-2? That is correct, but I really think win loss is a team stat. Tyrod is definitely a part of that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 If he had a true #1 WR and a healthy TE wonder what he could do? Still tons of limitations, doesn't anticipate throws and rarely throws a WR open but he's smart with the ball. Might be getting Jimmy Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 If he had a true #1 WR and a healthy TE wonder what he could do? Still tons of limitations, doesn't anticipate throws and rarely throws a WR open but he's smart with the ball.He is playing well with nobodies. It's rather remarkable. Shady helps a lot obviously. But losing Clay hasn't affected him at all. Dennison really did a good job today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Might be getting Jimmy Graham. Okay, if they trade Glenn for him, that will be too much. Graham for any of the other tackles, take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Might be getting Jimmy Graham. Clay will be back soon. Id rather keep Glenn over Graham. If they get Graham for a cheap pick Id be ok with it. Otherwise no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Might be getting Jimmy Graham. Graham is just a household name that doesn't nearly match his recent production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 was that Mills making Mack so ineffective they pulled him? what bizzaro world are we living in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) was that Mills making Mack so ineffective they pulled him? what bizzaro world are we living in.... According to the raiders sideline Mack was just getting rotation rest to keep his legs fresh. I didn't watch the line close enough to see how they were making him ineffective. Edited October 29, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I can dig it... Youve been digging all bay mon. You working on an Inground pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Tyrod is the man. He and Shady are real playmakers and they're a good core for an offense even without any elite WRs. Give credit to Dennison for playing more to Tyrod & Shady & the o-line's natural strengths. They've improved throughout the year, so Dennison certainly deserves his fair share of credit for that. The past two weeks we've seen Tyrod moving out of the pocket more and extending plays. The run game obviously has adjusted with incorporating some of the blocking schemes from last year. It doesn't hurt that neither the Bucs or Raiders are particularly good defenses, but at the same time, the Bills are making plays. An unsung aspect of Tyrod's game that was noticeable today — he knows how to fall. There was one sack where he almost led the fall, almost like you'd see in pro wrestling or something. He's not giving himself up for big hits when he can help it. Combine that with his basketball-like jukes, and no wonder Tyrod has been good at avoiding injuries, knock on wood (remember how often people were criticizing Tyrod early on for how frequently he was sure to get injured?) This sounds crazy but I think Tyrod and Shady could call their own plays, K Gun-style. I think they know how they work best, and even though I usually hate gadget plays, I think this group could incorporate option plays a lot more. Imagine a 2nd or 3rd and short -- fake hand off to Fullback, toss to Shady, halfback option with Thompson deep. If the safety bites, that's a TD, and if not, I like Shady running outside against a CB/LB. Same thing with Logan Thomas. Some kind of WR screen where he has the option to throw deep to Thompson if the safety comes up. With turnovers, I think Tyrod is who is he is —at this point, it's clearly part of how he's making decisions, whether he's going to take the attempt or not. But the more that Tyrod is able to play the "backyard hero" game that he is best at — Vick style, but more looking to throw while still a threat to run on every play... I think he has the potential to really go on a streak here. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 According to the raiders sideline Mack was just getting rotation rest to keep his legs fresh. I didn't watch the line close enough to see how they were making him ineffective. alright, so he may have simply been out for a rest. but i don't believe i heard Mack's name all day other than when they were commenting about him being on the sideline. Mills had another strong game i'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 alright, so he may have simply been out for a rest. but i don't believe i heard Mack's name all day other than when they were commenting about him being on the sideline. Mills had another strong game i'd say. Mack was contained all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) i agree he is better than we think but i disagree with him about not drafting a qb to groom with taylor starting Rogers and Brady sat for years before they took the reigns Edited October 29, 2017 by BILLriant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 alright, so he may have simply been out for a rest. but i don't believe i heard Mack's name all day other than when they were commenting about him being on the sideline. Mills had another strong game i'd say. I didn't either. Mills must have. As I said, I didn't pay enough attention to the line play to see. Maybe cover1 will show some of it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 8 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 2 turnovers, team is 5-2. Have you ever considered that maybe if the rest of this year plays out similarly to how it's been playing so far that McBeane might actually identify Taylor as our Franchise QB? The thing I've been impressed with is that Taylor hasn't been asked to carry the team or put the team on his back unless absolutely necessary, and when it is, he delivers. I can't look up Taylor's passing splits at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they would be pretty impressive in the "passing when trailing" category. It's possible that's McDermott's ideal game plan as opposed to chucking it all over the field. Taylor might just be an unconventional Franchise QB, but a Franchise QB nonetheless. Still TBD, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Taylor might just be an unconventional Franchise QB, but a Franchise QB nonetheless. Still a fair way from that conclusion for me. But no complaints how he is playing. Hope he keeps it up. I can see them getting to a point where if the 2018 class continues to hiccup the Bills decide to use their two 1s on non QBs and take a guy who slides into the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) 8 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 2 turnovers, team is 5-2. Have you ever considered that maybe if the rest of this year plays out similarly to how it's been playing so far that McBeane might actually identify Taylor as our Franchise QB? The thing I've been impressed with is that Taylor hasn't been asked to carry the team or put the team on his back unless absolutely necessary, and when it is, he delivers. I can't look up Taylor's passing splits at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they would be pretty impressive in the "passing when trailing" category. It's possible that's McDermott's ideal game plan as opposed to chucking it all over the field. Taylor might just be an unconventional Franchise QB, but a Franchise QB nonetheless. Still TBD, though. Behind 96 ATT 66 COMP 68.8 % 679 Yards 7.1 AVG 44 Long 5 TD 1 INT 101.9 Rating Edited October 29, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Franchise Quarterback is a hard to define term. And at any one time there may be only five of them. Eli wasn't one, was one, is not one. Flacco wasn't one, was one, may not be one. Matty Ice would eventually be one, became one, may not be one. Rivers was always on the brink of being one. I would never say Tyrod is one now. And doubt he will be one. BUT... if he did three plays a game that franchise quarterbacks make, and didn't make the three plays a game he makes that virtually none of the franchise quarterbacks make, he would be thought of a lot differently. It's impossible to compare him to almost anyone else, except maybe Russell Wilson. I think a guy like Rivers or Matt Ryan or Eli would get murdered on the Bills in most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) This years grid vs last year. Does not include today... Edited October 29, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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