transplantbillsfan Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20796234/nfl-owners-respond-president-trump-player-protest-comments That's dumb. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 It looks like we have us a situation on our hands. Quit being divisive by being divisive. Cant we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 It's become apparent that you don't understand how the United States Government works. I understand just fine. I guess you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 A team meeting? Our president's a childish prick who says stupid crap to rile up his base and make headlines. Meeting adjourned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopple Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So Trump is spitting on the 1st ammendment yet again. Scary stuff. Trump is doing no such thing. The first amendment says that government cannot stop you from saying what you want. It doesn’t say the NFL or the Buffalo Bills can’t. When you work somewhere, your First Amendment rights fall under the policies of your employer. The team owners and the league have every right to restrict these protests should they desire to do so. If they don’t, I hope the fans turn off their TV sets and radios, refuse to purchase any products or services advertised during the games, and walk out of the stadiums. As the President suggests. Another way to put it is the free speech clause of the first amendment does not grant anybody immunity from the consequences of what they say. Brandon Marshall of the Denver Broncos found that out the hard way. After he joined the anthem protests last season, he lost two lucrative endorsements. One with a local cable and internet provider. Another with a Denver area credit union. A lot of people may not like it, but the Constitution of the United States gave those private companies the right to fire Brandon Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Trump is doing no such thing. The first amendment says that government cannot stop you from saying what you want. It doesn’t say the NFL or the Buffalo Bills can’t. When you work somewhere, your First Amendment rights fall under the policies of your employer. The team owners and the league have every right to restrict these protests should they desire to do so. If they don’t, I hope the fans turn off their TV sets and radios, refuse to purchase any products or services advertised during the games, and walk out of the stadiums. As the President suggests. Another way to put it is the free speech clause of the first amendment does not grant anybody immunity from the consequences of what they say. Brandon Marshall of the Denver Broncos found that out the hard way. After he joined the anthem protests last season, he lost two lucrative endorsements. One with a local cable and internet provider. Another with a Denver area credit union. A lot of people may not like it, but the Constitution of the United States gave those private companies the right to fire Brandon Marshall. This is so overlooked by those who consistently claim that players have every right to anthem protests under the constitution. They have the right because the owners have decided to allow this festering boil on the a$$ of creation to continue. If they decided to require standing for the anthem ( we know they won't) they would be within their rights as an employer to do so. The best thing they can do at this point is either keep the teams in the locker room during the anthem as they do in the NCAA , or eliminate it altogether. Focus on good things the players do such as the hurricane relief. Not the misguided and divisive anthem protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Trump is doing no such thing. The first amendment says that government cannot stop you from saying what you want. It doesn’t say the NFL or the Buffalo Bills can’t. When you work somewhere, your First Amendment rights fall under the policies of your employer. The team owners and the league have every right to restrict these protests should they desire to do so. If they don’t, I hope the fans turn off their TV sets and radios, refuse to purchase any products or services advertised during the games, and walk out of the stadiums. As the President suggests. Another way to put it is the free speech clause of the first amendment does not grant anybody immunity from the consequences of what they say. Brandon Marshall of the Denver Broncos found that out the hard way. After he joined the anthem protests last season, he lost two lucrative endorsements. One with a local cable and internet provider. Another with a Denver area credit union. A lot of people may not like it, but the Constitution of the United States gave those private companies the right to fire Brandon Marshall. You're 100% correct, but the NFL decided to allowed them to protest under the first amendment. Do you think it's appropriate for the president of the United States to call a player that protests the national anthem a "son of a b**ch?" Edited September 24, 2017 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 A team meeting? Our president's a childish prick who says stupid crap to rile up his base and make headlines. Meeting adjourned. but how can we talk about our feelings that way? We have to let everyone know our feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) You're 100% correct, but the NFL decided to allowed them to protest under the first amendment. Do you think it's appropriate for the president of the United States to call a player that protests the national anthem a "son of a b**ch?" He was pandering to his base, but it's fine. He's not the only US President to utter the phrase I'm sure. Probably the first in public. He's not aPolitician. That's part of why he was elected. Edited September 24, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 He was pandering to his base, but it's fine. He's not the only US President to utter the phrase I'm sure. Probably the first in public. He's not aPolitician. That's part of why he was elected. imagine the **** hillary would be saying if she had been elected after calling an entire section/half the nation deplorable? every president throws insults at the other side - trumps just the current one doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Statement from the Pegula's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Good statement by the team. Let's see what if anything they do as a team or independently tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Statement from the Pegula's me thinks the bills will not make any statements on the field tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 me thinks the bills will not make any statements on the field tomorrow. The only thing the Bills will make on the field tomorrow is number a two. And I don't mean Nathan Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Interesting tidbit. We have heard from over ten NFL owners of the 32. Probably 15-16. Seven NFL owners gave one million or more dollars to Trump during campaign. We haven't heard from any of those yet. Kraft. Jones. Kroenke. Kahn. Johnson. Snyder. McNair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Interesting tidbit. We have heard from over ten NFL owners of the 32. Probably 15-16. Seven NFL owners gave one million or more dollars to Trump during campaign. We haven't heard from any of those yet. Kraft. Jones. Kroenke. Kahn. Johnson. Snyder. McNair. did you include Hunt? hunt had made a statement a while back. the ones we did hear from first included supporters of Hillary, blank leading them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 did you include Hunt? You mean Mike? The President? Yeah, he started this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You mean Mike? The President? Yeah, he started this. your !@#$ is president? thats why this situation stinks. clark, you nitwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 your !@#$ is president? thats why this situation stinks. clark, you nitwit. I didn't see his. No. I saw maybe 12. Then read a tweet recently that none of the boner donors did yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Wait what? Is this your attempt at satire? Please tell me it is... Otherwise we found the most racist guy on TBD. Came over to ppp to see whats up.... Same ****. What is it with the left, yelling racist everytime they disagree with something? Boyst is making a legit point. These people are ON THE CLOCK, and don't have the right to grandstand on their employers dime if the employer doesn't like it. Boyst says "monkey", and the sheep can't wait to cry "racist", even though it clearly was not. And people saying Trump opressed speech...lol learn about the subject. Him suggesting that he thinks owners should fire people they have the right to fire is absolutely not against any law, nor does it fit in anyones legitimate definition of oppression. So many people acting like victims these days. Moreso than real victims generally act. It is the alertist radical lefty's who are actually trying (and somewhat succeeding) shutting down the 1st amendment. See Berkley, Antifa, etc.... He's not your average president. He's not that good at it, he's not that smart, amd not very strategic...... he can be ignorant, impulsive, and gruff, but he is not breaking any laws. But you guys can continue to cry wolf, but don't be surprised when the townfolk stop listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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